12-year-old playing with fake gun shot dead by Ohio police.
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MrBrightSi said:
+1
It is the way the American police treat these communities as the enemy, always on the attack and far too aggressive for anything sensible a lot of the time.
Except they've made 98 million arrests(a) (plus all the other confrontational, no arrest scenarios) between 2003 and 2009, with 2931 of those interactions resulting in "homicide" by cop. It is the way the American police treat these communities as the enemy, always on the attack and far too aggressive for anything sensible a lot of the time.
Hardly sounds like "always on the attack" to me, given the threat levels the police face over there, and that 500 have been shot and killed over the same period.
(a) FBI data.
Ayahuasca said:
If you were in a car responding to a possible armed criminal, WTF would you drive to within a couple of metres, which puts you in danger and gives you no time to assess the situation?
Don't try to rationalize with the experts in US police strategy/policy/logistics/training - for they know how it all works over here - they've seen the TV shows to prove it.Matt Harper said:
Ayahuasca said:
If you were in a car responding to a possible armed criminal, WTF would you drive to within a couple of metres, which puts you in danger and gives you no time to assess the situation?
Don't try to rationalize with the experts in US police strategy/policy/logistics/training - for they know how it all works over here - they've seen the TV shows to prove it.babatunde said:
Matt Harper said:
Ayahuasca said:
If you were in a car responding to a possible armed criminal, WTF would you drive to within a couple of metres, which puts you in danger and gives you no time to assess the situation?
Don't try to rationalize with the experts in US police strategy/policy/logistics/training - for they know how it all works over here - they've seen the TV shows to prove it.I see rather good 'assess' above ( from La Liga) that supports the status quo.
babatunde said:
Matt Harper said:
Ayahuasca said:
If you were in a car responding to a possible armed criminal, WTF would you drive to within a couple of metres, which puts you in danger and gives you no time to assess the situation?
Don't try to rationalize with the experts in US police strategy/policy/logistics/training - for they know how it all works over here - they've seen the TV shows to prove it.I see rather good 'assess' above ( from La Liga) that supports the status quo.
MrBrightSi said:
+1
It is the way the American police treat these communities as the enemy, always on the attack and far too aggressive for anything sensible a lot of the time.
because of course the police are NEVER at risk....It is the way the American police treat these communities as the enemy, always on the attack and far too aggressive for anything sensible a lot of the time.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/07/local/la-m...
irocfan said:
MrBrightSi said:
+1
It is the way the American police treat these communities as the enemy, always on the attack and far too aggressive for anything sensible a lot of the time.
because of course the police are NEVER at risk....It is the way the American police treat these communities as the enemy, always on the attack and far too aggressive for anything sensible a lot of the time.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/07/local/la-m...
irocfan said:
because of course the police are NEVER at risk....
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/07/local/la-m...
Not that I care but I think Mr White was executed too. Quite rightly. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/07/local/la-m...
Three Cops choke an unarmed 40 year old to death using an illegal throat hold.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30321840
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30321840
Fishtigua said:
Three Cops choke an unarmed 40 year old to death using an illegal throat hold.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30321840
Why do people fight the police? I just don't understand it. You don't resist, you get cuffed taken to the police station and presuming you didn't do anything you lose a few hours of your day.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30321840
You fight them, you end up getting cuffed anyway and you take a beating or worse. Then you spend more time in the police station or at the morgue.
He was a big guy. If it resists how are you meant to get him down?
"The Cleveland cop who fatally shot a 12-year-old because the kid was holding an Airsoft gun last month should never have become a police officer, according to his own personnel file. Northeast Ohio Media Group reported Wednesday that Officer Timothy Loehmann was known at the academy as an emotional wreck who was terrible with a gun.
Loehmann worked as a cop in Independence, Ohio, before moving to the Cleveland Police. Now the Cleveland PD is saying they never bothered to check their applicant's record. If his bosses had checked, they would have seen a troubling pattern of clouded judgment—and possibly prevented a child's death by keeping him off the streets.
From his earliest days at the Cleveland Heights Police Academy, Loehmann performed poorly. He would fall asleep in class. He showed up "sleepy and upset" for a gun qualification session and eventually had a meltdown during a training exercise. Independence Police Sergeant Greg Tinnirello said the officer couldn't follow simple instructions. Deputy Chief Jim Polak said he was immature.
So Loehmann transferred this March to Cleveland's Fourth District, which has the highest homicide rate in the city. "He loved the action," Loehmann's father would later explain.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-cleveland-cop-w...
Loehmann worked as a cop in Independence, Ohio, before moving to the Cleveland Police. Now the Cleveland PD is saying they never bothered to check their applicant's record. If his bosses had checked, they would have seen a troubling pattern of clouded judgment—and possibly prevented a child's death by keeping him off the streets.
From his earliest days at the Cleveland Heights Police Academy, Loehmann performed poorly. He would fall asleep in class. He showed up "sleepy and upset" for a gun qualification session and eventually had a meltdown during a training exercise. Independence Police Sergeant Greg Tinnirello said the officer couldn't follow simple instructions. Deputy Chief Jim Polak said he was immature.
So Loehmann transferred this March to Cleveland's Fourth District, which has the highest homicide rate in the city. "He loved the action," Loehmann's father would later explain.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-cleveland-cop-w...
bbc said:
A policeman who shot and killed a 12-year-old boy in Cleveland, Ohio, should be charged with murder, says a judge.
Tamir Rice was shown on CCTV waving a pellet gun outside a recreation centre last November, before being shot twice. He later died in hospital.
Judge Ron Adrine said there were sufficient grounds to prosecute Officer Timothy Loehmann with murder, manslaughter and reckless homicide.
It will now be up to prosecutors to decide whether there will be charges.
Community leaders and activists this week had taken the unusual step of requesting the court to look at the case.
The judge also said another police officer, Frank Garmback, should face criminal charges.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33104823Tamir Rice was shown on CCTV waving a pellet gun outside a recreation centre last November, before being shot twice. He later died in hospital.
Judge Ron Adrine said there were sufficient grounds to prosecute Officer Timothy Loehmann with murder, manslaughter and reckless homicide.
It will now be up to prosecutors to decide whether there will be charges.
Community leaders and activists this week had taken the unusual step of requesting the court to look at the case.
The judge also said another police officer, Frank Garmback, should face criminal charges.
Nowhere is safe, 5 injured at New York's Waldorf Astoria hotel during a wedding reception as a gun is accidently discharged.
"Let's see if I have everything, suit, tie, cummerbund, wedding present..... Oh my gun I nearly forgot that"
http://news.sky.com/story/1501730/five-injured-in-...
"Let's see if I have everything, suit, tie, cummerbund, wedding present..... Oh my gun I nearly forgot that"
http://news.sky.com/story/1501730/five-injured-in-...
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