Burglars savage attack on academic
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FredClogs said:
superkartracer said:
FredClogs said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10285564/Police-do-not-investigate-six-out-of-10-reported-crimes-admits-chief-constable.htmlhttp://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-st...
And besides since when was 100% ever recorded? Do you think in the good old days 100% of all crime was reported and followed up by Sherlock of the Yard?
In 1974 my mate's Mini was stolen - he'd just managed to fill it up (there was a bit of an oil crisis going on and we'd endured Heath's 3 day week). I was in my Imp and the Mini followed (there were 7 of us in total in both cars). We parked up and went off for a drink in our usual watering hole(s). Long story short. At around 10pm he went to get his coat from his Mini. It had gone (Mini, and coat!). Police were called. A jam sandwich (if you're old enough you'll know what that is) turned up. Details were taken. We all went back to the pub. Kicking out time a copper comes into pub - 'Your car... (lot more words, but in essence they'd found it'. It was 6 miles away in Eynsham on a verge outside school. We drove there, following police car, mate used his spare key (car had been locked), it started, found a few things missing, a small prang in the rear bumper, and drove home.
ALL THE SAME EVENING. Get it?
Fast forward now (well, a year or so back).
My son had a part share with a friend in a car they used on the road and for track racing. The latest addition was a new £400 roll over bar. The car in question was a common Japanese mass produced sports car (do I need to say more?). It was more than distinguishable, it was green with bright orange wheels and a very large logo on the bonnet.
My son was telephoned by one of his workmates one evening (I was there when he took the call). He was told by his friend that the car in question was positively identified and seen on the back of a car breakdown type truck, and on a main Oxfordshire road. We thought it was his friend just winding my son up. The car at this point had been parked up on private business ground where my son worked - major car manufacturer.
The next morning on arrival at work... yep, the car had gone. Tyre marks showed the car had been removed (dragged) up on the breakdown truck with MX5 handbrake still hard on and car (obviously!) was locked as my son had the keys. This had happened in summer, early evening and good light.
The police (Oxford) were phoned and informed and given the vivid description inc the PH stickers, one v large one on the bonnet. They then asked how did they know it was the same car?
Doh!
Bloody bright orange painted wheels and green bodywork, same model car. Yeah, loads of 'em about.
My son and more of his workmates did some investigation of their own and had an idea where his car had been taken (signwriting on pick up truck, a clue), around 10+ miles from its park up. The police were rung again to see if there was any progress. The answer beggared belief: nobody knew about the 'theft'.
It would, however, this time be looked into (the information - ie: the group inc my son who had done their own investigation, was also passed on intimating the possible whereabouts/location of the car). My son and his colleagues (who are all into cars) then went abroad on work for a week - incidentally, the Japanese sports car in question had been driven by my son and his friends all over, including round the famous Nurburgring in Germany by them. So the car had got around a bit, but its sad demise ended in Oxford(shire).
On their return they rang the police to see if any progress had been made on finding their car.
What happened next beggared even more belief: the police had apparently rung the place where the boys (I say boys, they're all young men early to mid 20s) thought the car might have ended up after being stolen, to 'ask if the premises in question had a car fitting the description'!
You couldn't make it up. Probably went like this:
'Hi, this is Oxford police, do you have a car fitting this description?'
'No'.
'Ok, thank you. Sorry for troubling you.'
Scumbags probably laughing their socks off.
By this point the 'boys' had given up. Their thoughts on the police are not printable. Fortunately, they are all in good jobs and well paid so the financial loss was not important. But as I said to them at the time, the principle is and I think they should have pursued it further. They were no longer interested, lost all faith in the police, and I suppose who could blame them?
There you have it. Another statistic not recorded. Well, it's just a bloody old Mazda.
Wonder what the scumbags nicked next, in broad daylight?
What was that you were saying Mr Cloggs about the good old days?
You should have been there.
Sentenced today, two got 13 years, other two 19 years. Career criminals let in by the Eu freedom of movement.
Hope they get shipped to a Polish jail so we don't pay for their sky TV
http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31056608
Hope they get shipped to a Polish jail so we don't pay for their sky TV
http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31056608
Edited by Yazar on Friday 30th January 17:20
Yazar said:
Sentenced today, two got 13 years, other two 19 years. Career criminals let in by the Eu freedom of movement.
Hope they get shipped to a Polish jail so we don't pay for their sky TV
http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31056608
Result, did you see that chaps face! he looked purple Hope they get shipped to a Polish jail so we don't pay for their sky TV
http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31056608
Edited by Yazar on Friday 30th January 17:20
Case in the USA where the victim was less beaten
http://www.eater.com/2015/1/30/7952981/teens-plead...
Seems might be getting longer terms
The US traditionally has longer sentences.
Or shorter, if you take into account injections
http://www.eater.com/2015/1/30/7952981/teens-plead...
Seems might be getting longer terms
The US traditionally has longer sentences.
Or shorter, if you take into account injections
FredClogs said:
I'm not sure which side of the debate you're on with that link...Strip out the ASB stuff and the all crime rate is steadily increasing even on the 4yr horizon shown in the link.
And then look at the violent crime stats. A bigger uptick IMO.
Nothing to suggest that this is at all related to immigration (largely I couldn't care less), but the position isn't great really.
In this particular case, the piss boiler for me is that we seem incapable of
a) Checking the criminal records of EU citizens before they are allowed in. If we're to have open borders, the transfer/sharing of information like this should be open too, and "open"should not include violent criminals.
b) Once kicking someone convicted here out, we are incapable of keeping them out.
Those two things, irrespective of historic crime stats, really need to be addressed IMO.
I'm also inclined to think the three strikes rule as per the US is sensible. Harder prisons where the 3x offender can be placed for the rest of their natural to keep them well away from the rest of society who are prepared to toe the line.
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