USA people have crap holidays from work

USA people have crap holidays from work

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sherbertdip

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1,107 posts

119 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Where I work we've started a partnership which is predominantly staffed with UK workers but has quite a few people from the States, chatting with one today it became apparent that they are given really low number of days holiday.

She has 13 paid days a year including any sick days plus UK Bank/Public holidays while over here, she can take unpaid if she wants.

My wife worked for an American company but based here in the UK she had 25 days plus Bank/Public, her equivalents in the States started on 10 days and progressed to 15 after 10 years service!!!!!

Me I get 32.5 days plus Bank/Public.

I just wondered how many days other people have?


russ_a

4,578 posts

211 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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zero (self employed)

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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The company I work for gives 25 days right away for new starters plus bank holidays, so that's 33 paid days off per year as a minimum.

It goes up by one day a year until you reach 32 days plus bank holidays, so that's 8 weeks off!

I honestly struggle to use all my holiday sometimes, I've still got about 2 weeks left to take before the end of december so I'm looking at a monster christmas holiday smile

Americans do generally get treat like st when it comes to paid holidays from work. That's why they generally go nuts on things like Thanksgiving etc as it's a rare day off. Plus, when they visit other countries they seem to really rush at it and 'do' an entire country in a week or something.

I'm very thankful for the long paid holidays a lot of us get in the UK as it affords us much time to go on holiday exploring the world and spend time with families and friends.

Be grateful people! smile

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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That's capitalism for you, be glad you've got a job but you'll have to accept ever worse terms and conditions if you want to keep it.


Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I understand US employees don't get the same protection UK employees do. If they don't like you, they just let you go.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Fittster said:
That's capitalism for you, be glad you've got a job but you'll have to accept ever worse terms and conditions if you want to keep it.
My experience does not match yours.

I work for a real 'decadent western capitalist pig' type company with a lot of employees and my terms and conditions are really good.

Same as the other private companies I have worked for.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Hoofy said:
I understand US employees don't get the same protection UK employees do. If they don't like you, they just let you go.
I believe so.

All they have to say to you is "Sorry, it isn't working out" and you are out that very day.

RDMcG

19,139 posts

207 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Normal on this side of the world in the private sector. Theoretically you get more with seniority but execs rarely take them. I had a notional six weeks in my last two jobs. actually took two and let the rest go. Life was too busy and too interesting so it was fine. No idea what to do with six weeks and getting to of synch with the business.No regrets.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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NinjaPower said:
Fittster said:
That's capitalism for you, be glad you've got a job but you'll have to accept ever worse terms and conditions if you want to keep it.
My experience does not match yours.

I work for a real 'decadent western capitalist pig' type company with a lot of employees and my terms and conditions are really good.

Same as the other private companies I have worked for.
Not on a zero hours contract and you've been seeing real wage growth? Many don't share your really good conditions.

tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I work for a US company in the UK, we get 25 Days to start with the a day extra for the 5th year onwards & another day after 10 years. So next year I'll have 27 days to take. The problem with working from home is that if I need to pop out I just work around it.

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I work for a big Swedish corporate. We, in the UK, get 28 days + bank holidays.

Edited by schmalex on Friday 28th November 21:40

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Fittster said:
NinjaPower said:
Fittster said:
That's capitalism for you, be glad you've got a job but you'll have to accept ever worse terms and conditions if you want to keep it.
My experience does not match yours.

I work for a real 'decadent western capitalist pig' type company with a lot of employees and my terms and conditions are really good.

Same as the other private companies I have worked for.
Not on a zero hours contract and you've been seeing real wage growth? Many don't share your really good conditions.
I'm sure they don't, but I was merely pointing out that just because someone works for a capitalist company in a capitalist country, it doesn't necessarily mean that they will have to accept crap terms and conditions.

Vaud

50,426 posts

155 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Uk is a good balance in my view between bits of Europe (France, up to 42 days) and the ruthless elements of the US.

Me, 28 days and I never take it all.

bloomen

6,891 posts

159 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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US employment is berserk.

Whilst over there I got talking to a British nurse who'd worked for the same hospital in Denver for 35 years.

Her brother back in the UK was dying. She asked for an unpaid month back home to say goodbye. Her employers told her that would be fine, she'd just have to reapply for her old job when she got back.

Not a place I'd want to live.

vxsmithers

716 posts

200 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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The US get more bank holidays - we worked it out at a previous company and it tallies to roughly the same as the UK when you factor this in.

However, they will drop you like a stone whenever they want. Current restructuring is giving a weeks notice to most people the other side of the pond, was the same at my previous American employer. Its a cultural thing that is accepted though, wouldn't suit me, but a lot of people just move states and start again.

Bree

621 posts

211 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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28 days + 8 bank holidays + 1 personal day (traditionally for Xmas shopping).

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Bree said:
1 personal day (traditionally for Xmas shopping).
Wot?

Bree

621 posts

211 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Crossflow Kid said:
Bree said:
1 personal day (traditionally for Xmas shopping).
Wot?
It's a paid days leave in addition to our holiday entitlement. We used to have to take it in December as it was designed to give us time to go Xmas shopping (I work in retail, so no hols in December), but we can take it at any time through the year now.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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30+bank holidays. Usually average another 10/15 unofficially on top of those.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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vxsmithers said:
The US get more bank holidays - we worked it out at a previous company and it tallies to roughly the same as the UK when you factor this in.

However, they will drop you like a stone whenever they want. Current restructuring is giving a weeks notice to most people the other side of the pond, was the same at my previous American employer. Its a cultural thing that is accepted though, wouldn't suit me, but a lot of people just move states and start again.
Not really on the holiday front...

They have 10 bank holidays - in 2014;
  • Wednesday January 1 - New Year's Day
  • Monday January 20 - Martin Luther King’s Birthday
  • Monday February 17 -George Washington’s Birthday
  • Monday May 26 - Memorial Day
  • Friday July 4 - Independence Day
  • Monday September 1 - Labor Day
  • Monday October 13 - Columbus Day
  • Tuesday November 11 - Veterans Day
  • Thursday November 27 - Thanksgiving Day
  • Thursday December 25 - Christmas Day
We get 7;

  • New Year's Day January 1
  • Good Friday - April 18
  • Easter Monday - April 21
  • Early May Bank Holiday - May 5
  • Spring Bank Holiday - May 26
  • Summer Bank Holiday - August 25
  • Christmas Day - December 25
  • Boxing Day - December 26
UK holiday allowance is far more generous - we usually give far more than the 3 extra bank holiday days they get, in normal holiday allowance. If you compare typical UK to US, we get 10 or so days more when you tot it all up. You're absolutely spot on when it comes to notice though, 90%+ of my (sizeable) US team are on less than 2 weeks