Paedophile doctor caught kiddie fiddling

[julian64]

Breadvan72 said:

That is an over reaction. One paedophile doctor does not indicate the collapse of society. You can take photos at school plays etc. Daily Mailism is not necessary.

I wrote a big long ultimately boring post which I decided to delete and just replace with

'I'm afraid you don't have a clue'

[anonymous-user]

Thanks for the well reasoned and not at all patronising post! Are you really falling for the we are all doomed mantra? Is there any evidence that the percentage of paedophiles in the population has increased since whatever arbitrary point in time you designate as your personal Golden Age? There is an argument that the internet may have offered new routes for abuse, but even there cases such as the recent grooming murder of a teenage gamer are exceptions, not norms.

As for taking a camera to school events, my daughter has only been at two schools, but at each of them you can't see the play or concert because all you can see are smartphones held aloft filming and photographing the show. Top tip: some stuff in the Daily Mail may not be actually true.

[julian64]

Breadvan.

Its difficult to put into a paragraph the immense impact the media campaign has had on general practice over the last ten years. On this side of the fence it feels like the doctor patient bond is being progressively and rapidly eroded away.

I could site numerous ways in which general practice has changed over the twenty years I've been a GP, but the most rapid change has been in the general loss of respect for the profession over the last ten starting with shipman and an exaggerated stepwise reduction with each new shock revelation by the daily mail.

While you generally deride the paper with good reason, unfortunately the daily mail has such an effect on the population that within the medical field it is leading the changes rather than reporting them.

Joe public is happy with this and I have my head in my hands. To say that the daily mail is an irrelevant rag is to massively underestimate its effect.

I wasn't directly getting at you, just having a moment.

[anonymous-user]

The Daily Mail is far from irrelevant. It is a pernicious rag that misleads the population on many issues. I thought that you were buying into its "paedos everywhere" scaremongering, not bewailing that scaremongering.

All professions have lost respect. It was a bad thing when doctor, lawyer, teacher or priest were always right, but nowadays we devalue expertise.

[zcacogp]

scenario8 said:

Breadvan72 said:

http://www.legalcheek.com/2014/11/bar-regulator-su...

My God, I bet that forum hosts tedious debates between Internet warrior legalists.

I'm not sure about all that, but it has articles like this on it:

http://www.legalcheek.com/2014/11/how-a-new-genera...

I thought they were all middle-aged, overweight, short-haired, wore sandals and had beards?

WOOF!


Oli.

[carinaman]

Is there anything on there about the CP/Big business sponsored fast track for the high flying legal eagles of the future?

I think it's a bit much to give the Daily Mail so much grief. Theresa May has hotwired New Labour's beloved Climate of Fear claptrap. Or she's just saying it to try to get some of the Daily Mail reader votes? And to boost her chances of being our next PM?

I think it's safe to assume that a large proportion of the PH and Mumsnet users that are not sexually attracted to minors or busy building bombs at home in their kitchens are modern slavers funding lavish lifestyles on the back of bonded labour. I'm sure there must have been a few modern slaves in the supply chain logistics of the 4 pints of Organic Milk I paid almost £2 for yesterday.

So that's Modern Slavery and Emily Thornham's ill judged Tweet that reminded me of the Harry and Paul pet Northerner sketch.

I am sure there's no link between Modern Slavery and the historic sexual abuse of minors by those in places of authority in the establishment.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 3rd December 04:21

[otolith]

I wonder if this business with MPs stems from a simple miscommunication in the whip's office back in the 80's about what was to be done to the miners?

[tali1]

He got 22yrs and the other perv Brum Doc got 16yrs- and yet child killers like those of Khyra Ishaq and Baby P get nowhere near that.And this one (although he did not kill)only got 12 yrs http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-am-monster-...

[greygoose]

Do you want shorter sentences for paedophiles in positions of trust with multiple victims?

[Willy Nilly]

Breadvan72 said:

All professions have lost respect. It was a bad thing when doctor, lawyer, teacher or priest were always right, but nowadays we devalue expertise.

Criminality aside, there as been quite a bit of arrogance in the professions, this is where most of the respect has been lost and with that arrogance has come complacency. When you are charging what is a kings ransom to most people while giving it the big 'un, you had better be professional.

[tali1]

greygoose said:

Do you want shorter sentences for paedophiles in positions of trust with multiple victims?

No -for the others to recieve higher sentences.Surely their sentences are waay to lenient?