Russel Brand nobbled for being a hypocrite
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King 
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said:pork911 said:
because celeb.
Check out the video I posted to Turbobloke above. I think Brand gives a very convincing argument as to why The Sun is after him; he represents a direct threat to Murdoch himself and, therefore, must be destroyed at all costs.
It also points to the reason why Turbobloke might expending so much effort on this thread. He knows Brand represents an existential threat to his interests.
RYH64E said:
Surely there's an opportunity for Brand to become a philanthropic, social landlord. I wonder how long his socialist ideals would last if he had to deal with the ungrateful, unreliable, non-paying tenants whose cause he's championing, especially when he works out that what they consider to be fair rents are well below the cost of supplying their housing.
Rents in London are far too high because property prices are far too high not because landlords are making extortionate profits, the margins are usually wafer thin. I don't know what the answer is but I know that state subsidy won't help, subsidy will just fuel the higher house prices = higher rent = higher house prices = higher rent spiral.
Rents and property prices have gone through the roof thanks to successive incumbents at Westminster selling off council houses and not replacing the housing stock. After WWII, we had a housing crisis, due to properties being bombed flat - so we rebuilt massively, even if some homes were just pre-fabs and not intended to last forever (although many are still in use today). We are in need of another mass building program...... It all boils down to the laws of supply and demand. Relatively few properties create a premium on house prices.....it's hardly rocket science.Rents in London are far too high because property prices are far too high not because landlords are making extortionate profits, the margins are usually wafer thin. I don't know what the answer is but I know that state subsidy won't help, subsidy will just fuel the higher house prices = higher rent = higher house prices = higher rent spiral.
burwoodman said:
HOw can you take Brand seriously. He attacks Murdoch over his dodgy tax affairs when there is nothing illegal about them. Brand should ask the Government about the tax regs and not even the UK government. Try the US government. He attacks Hugo Boss yet chooses another Nazi collaborator (Mercedes) as his ride of choice. He wears Hugo Boss clothing himself. He may have a point on some of his chosen targets but he loses all credibility when he opens his gob and puts his foot in it.
He seems to address your points here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H46hLibhHA
e21Mark said:
burwoodman said:
HOw can you take Brand seriously. He attacks Murdoch over his dodgy tax affairs when there is nothing illegal about them. Brand should ask the Government about the tax regs and not even the UK government. Try the US government. He attacks Hugo Boss yet chooses another Nazi collaborator (Mercedes) as his ride of choice. He wears Hugo Boss clothing himself. He may have a point on some of his chosen targets but he loses all credibility when he opens his gob and puts his foot in it.
He seems to address your points here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H46hLibhHA
burwoodman said:
e21Mark said:
burwoodman said:
HOw can you take Brand seriously. He attacks Murdoch over his dodgy tax affairs when there is nothing illegal about them. Brand should ask the Government about the tax regs and not even the UK government. Try the US government. He attacks Hugo Boss yet chooses another Nazi collaborator (Mercedes) as his ride of choice. He wears Hugo Boss clothing himself. He may have a point on some of his chosen targets but he loses all credibility when he opens his gob and puts his foot in it.
He seems to address your points here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H46hLibhHA
and in panto style as well, so seasonal 
e21Mark said:
burwoodman said:
e21Mark said:
burwoodman said:
HOw can you take Brand seriously. He attacks Murdoch over his dodgy tax affairs when there is nothing illegal about them. Brand should ask the Government about the tax regs and not even the UK government. Try the US government. He attacks Hugo Boss yet chooses another Nazi collaborator (Mercedes) as his ride of choice. He wears Hugo Boss clothing himself. He may have a point on some of his chosen targets but he loses all credibility when he opens his gob and puts his foot in it.
He seems to address your points here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H46hLibhHA
t prangsterOh and another- had a relationship with Jemina Goldsmith. Their family isn't too far away from tax dodger news. Everything they own is in a Cayman Is trust to avoid tax. All legal but he doesn't attack her family
burwoodman said:
e21Mark said:
burwoodman said:
e21Mark said:
burwoodman said:
HOw can you take Brand seriously. He attacks Murdoch over his dodgy tax affairs when there is nothing illegal about them. Brand should ask the Government about the tax regs and not even the UK government. Try the US government. He attacks Hugo Boss yet chooses another Nazi collaborator (Mercedes) as his ride of choice. He wears Hugo Boss clothing himself. He may have a point on some of his chosen targets but he loses all credibility when he opens his gob and puts his foot in it.
He seems to address your points here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H46hLibhHA
t prangsterOh and another- had a relationship with Jemina Goldsmith. Their family isn't too far away from tax dodger news. Everything they own is in a Cayman Is trust to avoid tax. All legal but he doesn't attack her family
burwoodman said:
...Oh and another- had a relationship with Jemina Goldsmith. Their family isn't too far away from tax dodger news. Everything they own is in a Cayman Is trust to avoid tax. All legal but he doesn't attack her family
I wonder what James Goldsmith would have made of Brand...probably have torn him a new one sooner or later.James Goldsmith had some very interesting views on politics and economics, particularly the 'power' of the economy and it's fetishistic covergae in the modern press (there's a U Tube vid of him detailing his thoughts to Larry King) as well as his trenchant views on the European project.
He didn't suffer fools gladly.
If Brand were serious he'd seize the chance to form a party (even a non-political one) and really show the establishment how it's done. Park his tanks on their lawn etc. But until the voting age is lowered to circa 8 years old he'll have to wait for the call from her Maj to form a government.
xjsdriver said:
BrabusMog said:
CamMoreRon said:
Really? It seems his gripe is with private landlords and he lives in a rented flat.
You keep clutching your hypocrisy straw though..
He is a monumental bell end though.You keep clutching your hypocrisy straw though..
I went to see his stand up show off the strength of his Ponderland series and he stormed off before the end of his (not funny and very political) set because he got heckled a few times.
- Does anyone know how much these rent rises are yet, or are we still speculating?
Ganglandboss said:
xjsdriver said:
BrabusMog said:
CamMoreRon said:
Really? It seems his gripe is with private landlords and he lives in a rented flat.
You keep clutching your hypocrisy straw though..
He is a monumental bell end though.You keep clutching your hypocrisy straw though..
I went to see his stand up show off the strength of his Ponderland series and he stormed off before the end of his (not funny and very political) set because he got heckled a few times.
- Does anyone know how much these rent rises are yet, or are we still speculating?
xjsdriver said:
Rents and property prices have gone through the roof thanks to successive incumbents at Westminster selling off council houses and not replacing the housing stock. After WWII, we had a housing crisis, due to properties being bombed flat - so we rebuilt massively, even if some homes were just pre-fabs and not intended to last forever (although many are still in use today). We are in need of another mass building program...... It all boils down to the laws of supply and demand. Relatively few properties create a premium on house prices.....it's hardly rocket science.
So we need to start building houses on all the central London bomb sites and other empty spaces just crying out for development... Maybe Hyde Park could be used for council housing, and I'm sure the queen wouldn't mind a low cost housing development going up in her garden, other than that I'm stumped for suitable sites in central London. I'm all in favour of moving tenants to lower cost parts of the country (Wales would be perfect imo) but many would argue that it's against their human rights to offer anything outside of Notting Hill.
If you can't understand why Brand is a threat to the status quo, then you are seriously out of touch. Consider the force already applied to him and by whom it is applied. It will be interesting to see if Nigel Farage hedges his bets as far as Brand is concerned. I have a feeling that tomorrow's question time might be something of a ghastly mutual appreciation. Farage was oddly complimentary on LBC the other day. Between the two of them a mild anarchy could easily be created. It's an odd one to be sure and it seems to me, or rather it instinctively feels to me, that Farage has a great deal more to lose.
The question of hypocrisy surely hinges upon the extent of Brand's grasp of his landlord's business affairs. I daresay it would be very hard for him to find one that didn't open him up to such criticism.
I find him onerous as a person and he did recently try to pull my girlfriend, but we are slipping into something of a sci-fi Dickensian nightmare in this country and st needs to be said. Labour are a busted flush of ste. The Tories are insane. We could have Davis versus Johnson but, instead, we've got to contend with Cameron versus Miliband.
There are millions of people in the UK who don't vote, don't understand politics, don't trust politicians and have very little grasp of either politics or economics and also see themselves, rightly or wrongly, as utterly untouched by Westminster. In many ways Brand is the Farage for these people. God help us.
All that will be left are recession white Audis burning grimly, abandoned on deserted flyovers, in the rain.
The question of hypocrisy surely hinges upon the extent of Brand's grasp of his landlord's business affairs. I daresay it would be very hard for him to find one that didn't open him up to such criticism.
I find him onerous as a person and he did recently try to pull my girlfriend, but we are slipping into something of a sci-fi Dickensian nightmare in this country and s
t needs to be said. Labour are a busted flush of ste. The Tories are insane. We could have Davis versus Johnson but, instead, we've got to contend with Cameron versus Miliband. There are millions of people in the UK who don't vote, don't understand politics, don't trust politicians and have very little grasp of either politics or economics and also see themselves, rightly or wrongly, as utterly untouched by Westminster. In many ways Brand is the Farage for these people. God help us.
All that will be left are recession white Audis burning grimly, abandoned on deserted flyovers, in the rain.
W124 said:
There are millions of people in the UK who don't vote, don't understand politics, don't trust politicians and have very little grasp of either politics or economics and also see themselves, rightly or wrongly, as utterly untouched by Westminster.
Agreed.It is for this reason they (assorted parties) have got away with so much, for so long. Whether we like them or not, the likes of Farage & Brand are starting to stir interest, where before there was none and that has to be a good thing surely?
W124 said:
The question of hypocrisy surely hinges upon the extent of Brand's grasp of his landlord's business affairs.
There's also the issue that rents are pushed up in popular areas because those that can afford to pay more will push the cost up. Brand is one of those people that pays over the top to live in a central London location. He does argue that it is 'the system' that's to blame, so I'll let that one go.What makes Brand an undisputed hypocrite is the fact he's been slagging off The Sun for the phone hacking scandal, yet he continued working for them for some time afterwards.
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