Russell Brand v The Sun
Discussion
CamMoreRon said:
Scuffers said:
the point is that it's people like him who can pay these stupidly high rents that's driving the market up.
This isn't Scotland, people aren't out-bidding each other for properties - especially not for rentals. It's the landlords who control rent, not the tenants. The tenants are forced to pay up if they want to live in a house. You seem to be attempting to argue that tenants can always not pay the rent, but what is the alternative? Live in the gutters?oh to live in a world where a landlord can force a tenant to pay whatever figure is plucked from the air
Some Gump said:
Brand isn't an inspiration, he's an a
hole. Spouting vapid drivel whilst using long words doesn't make the drivel any more meaningful, even if it sounds nice.
For once, the Sun has it right - Brand is a hypocrite of massive proportions.
You don't know that. You don't believe in Russell and his mission like what we dohole. Spouting vapid drivel whilst using long words doesn't make the drivel any more meaningful, even if it sounds nice. For once, the Sun has it right - Brand is a hypocrite of massive proportions.
gpo746 said:
Some Gump said:
Brand isn't an inspiration, he's an ahole. Spouting vapid drivel whilst using long words doesn't make the drivel any more meaningful, even if it sounds nice.
For once, the Sun has it right - Brand is a hypocrite of massive proportions.
You don't know that. You don't believe in Russell and his mission like what we dohole. Spouting vapid drivel whilst using long words doesn't make the drivel any more meaningful, even if it sounds nice. For once, the Sun has it right - Brand is a hypocrite of massive proportions.
turbobloke said:
Brand is forced to pay the price of a house in annual rent, sure.
Record numbers of 'young adults', actually not so young adults, are living with parents into their 30s and 40s, those parents aren't in the gutter.
Living in the gutters - wonderful poor bloody infantry emotive propagandist doggerel.
https://www.gov.uk/emergency-housing-if-homeless
Right, so your solution is to either live with your parents in to your 40's or to live off the state on emergency housing, if there is even space for you. I would have thought the latter conflicted with your small state ideology rather strongly. You hypocrite. Record numbers of 'young adults', actually not so young adults, are living with parents into their 30s and 40s, those parents aren't in the gutter.
Living in the gutters - wonderful poor bloody infantry emotive propagandist doggerel.
https://www.gov.uk/emergency-housing-if-homeless
CamMoreRon said:
You seem to be attempting to argue that tenants can always not pay the rent, but what is the alternative? Live in the gutters?
Speaking as an avaricious landlord I should point out that living in gutters is not necessarily an alternative to paying rent. We have tenants living in some very well located gutters and expect them not only to pay rent but pay it promptly. The first sign of getting a bearded comedian to represent their rights for a roof, walls or any of that nonsense is met with immediate and sometimes brutal eviction.
CamMoreRon said:
turbobloke said:
Brand is forced to pay the price of a house in annual rent, sure.
Record numbers of 'young adults', actually not so young adults, are living with parents into their 30s and 40s, those parents aren't in the gutter.
Living in the gutters - wonderful poor bloody infantry emotive propagandist doggerel.
https://www.gov.uk/emergency-housing-if-homeless
Right, so your solution is to either live with your parents in to your 40's or to live off the state on emergency housing, if there is even space for you. I would have thought the latter conflicted with your small state ideology rather strongly. You hypocrite. Record numbers of 'young adults', actually not so young adults, are living with parents into their 30s and 40s, those parents aren't in the gutter.
Living in the gutters - wonderful poor bloody infantry emotive propagandist doggerel.
https://www.gov.uk/emergency-housing-if-homeless
Except that it's not 'my solution', so no hypocrisy, it's what's actually happening as opposed to your propagandist drivel.
Russel Brand seems very popular on this forum and in the popular press, as Chralie Sheen might say.... "Winning".
The crux of the Sun's feckwittery (and some on this thread) is the assumption Brand new how his landlords company was structured or somehow had a duty to find out before he signed his lease agreement.
It's a bit much to ask that anyone with an opinion on anything has to go through life giving every waking moment and decision in ones life Sherlock Holmesian type scrutiny for fear of being branded a hypocrite. If this was the case then surely we are all hypocrites, the Sun are surely hypocritical to ask this of anyone, given the Murdoch newspapers track record when it comes to due diligence.
The crux of the Sun's feckwittery (and some on this thread) is the assumption Brand new how his landlords company was structured or somehow had a duty to find out before he signed his lease agreement.
It's a bit much to ask that anyone with an opinion on anything has to go through life giving every waking moment and decision in ones life Sherlock Holmesian type scrutiny for fear of being branded a hypocrite. If this was the case then surely we are all hypocrites, the Sun are surely hypocritical to ask this of anyone, given the Murdoch newspapers track record when it comes to due diligence.
turbobloke said:
Except that it's not 'my solution', so no hypocrisy, it's what's actually happening as opposed to your propagandist drivel.
And that is supposed to prove me wrong.. how, exactly?You're telling me that people are being forced to live with their parents well in to their adult lives due to not being able to afford rent - therefore rent is unaffordable due to rentier greed, no?
Eleven said:
CamMoreRon said:
You seem to be attempting to argue that tenants can always not pay the rent, but what is the alternative? Live in the gutters?
Speaking as an avaricious landlord I should point out that living in gutters is not necessarily an alternative to paying rent. We have tenants living in some very well located gutters and expect them not only to pay rent but pay it promptly. The first sign of getting a bearded comedian to represent their rights for a roof, walls or any of that nonsense is met with immediate and sometimes brutal eviction.
Besides.. you're saying that you turf out tenants who do not pay their rent - even if they were to pay late - so how exactly does that disprove my claim that landlords are the ones controlling prices in the rental market?
Edited by CamMoreRon on Thursday 4th December 11:15
CamMoreRon said:
That's nice.. and I hope they would sue you for discrimination.
Besides.. you're saying that you turf out tenants who do not pay their rent - even if they were to pay late - so how exactly does that disprove my claim that landlords are the ones controlling prices in the rental market?
I fear you may have missed some humour in his post...Besides.. you're saying that you turf out tenants who do not pay their rent - even if they were to pay late - so how exactly does that disprove my claim that landlords are the ones controlling prices in the rental market?
Edited by CamMoreRon on Thursday 4th December 11:15
CamMoreRon said:
And that is supposed to prove me wrong.. how, exactly?
You're telling me that people are being forced to live with their parents well in to their adult lives due to not being able to afford rent - therefore rent is unaffordable due to rentier greed, no?
It's not individuals greed, it's the market that sets the price, you see, not me guv but the market, innit - so you see it's no ones fault - don't hate the player, hate the game.You're telling me that people are being forced to live with their parents well in to their adult lives due to not being able to afford rent - therefore rent is unaffordable due to rentier greed, no?
To the vast majority of people in the UK this whole conversation is moot, unless you live in and around London or want to live in a nice suburb of another big city then house prices and rents in the UK are generally pretty affordable, this whole conversation is pandering to a small sub set of British people who think it's necessary to live in a dirty, over populated, stink hole. Personally I have no sympathy, move to Burnley if you can't afford to live in Knightsbridge. I would vote for any political party who campaigned on a ticket of moving people and business interests out of London - it really isn't all that.
Oakey said:
CamMoreRon said:
That's nice.. and I hope they would sue you for discrimination.
Besides.. you're saying that you turf out tenants who do not pay their rent - even if they were to pay late - so how exactly does that disprove my claim that landlords are the ones controlling prices in the rental market?
I fear you may have missed some humour in his post...Besides.. you're saying that you turf out tenants who do not pay their rent - even if they were to pay late - so how exactly does that disprove my claim that landlords are the ones controlling prices in the rental market?
Edited by CamMoreRon on Thursday 4th December 11:15
Stevanos said:
I hope he loses, fed up with his incoherent rantings.
It is rather embarrassing for a middle-aged man to still be pretending he's a twenty something student. What I really don't understand is how the young are so drawn to his fact free diatribes' which might charitably be called "bullst". He's taking them for mugs and making millions out of them, which is the only truly funny thing he's ever done.CamMoreRon said:
iphonedyou said:
Non sequitur.
Not at all. Rental prices are controlled by landlords - therefore unaffordable rent is due to rentier price hikes.
For example Brand is paying 4%pa of the market value of his home
a crappy £70k terrace in s
tsville with rent of £450 works out at 8% of market value. Who's the robbing capitalist pig now?
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