CIA lied over brutal interrogations
Discussion
heppers75 said:
el stovey said:
But 9/11 was the result of previous US foreign policy pissing off people in the region.
Considering how many friends I lost in that particular "foreign policy miscalculation" 
Unless that was sarcasm and please furnish me with the required parrot!
- I suspect that the thought processes of quite a few of the f
kwits in the UK would at this point see them cheering the planes hitting the Twin Towers on the basis that they're fking rich banker bds and as such are probably guilty of something. 9/11 was the result of a bunch of psychos gaining control of some aircraft and then murdering thousands - US foreign policy was just a convenient excuse
Edited by Bill on Tuesday 9th December 20:59
HD Adam said:
WEHGuy said:
No it wasn't, The US are just the nice big protector of the world's good guy's democracy against them evil bullies.
Go on then, I'll bite.Where would you rather live?
USA / UK?
or
Russia / China / North Korea / Middle East / Africa etc.
Do we need a poll (or parrot)?
It's not an Either/Or situation surely.
So, a report that was put together a long while ago is released by the DEMS just before they lose control of Congress. The WH even said this could bring harm to Americans, they do it anyway. It is not as if transparency is on their agenda with all of the Obama administration scandals they have been covering up; therefore, it must be sour grapes, etc.
Jose' Rodrigues, the former head of the Clandestine Service reminded everyone that the enhanced interegation techniques were approved by the Justice Dept, briefed to and approved by both parties, including Nacy Pelosi and Barbara Feinstien. They voted their approval, it is on record. Why did they allow that then?
The Brits do these things, as does other allies, we are just the only dumbasses to up and tell everyone.
Jose' Rodrigues, the former head of the Clandestine Service reminded everyone that the enhanced interegation techniques were approved by the Justice Dept, briefed to and approved by both parties, including Nacy Pelosi and Barbara Feinstien. They voted their approval, it is on record. Why did they allow that then?
The Brits do these things, as does other allies, we are just the only dumbasses to up and tell everyone.
heppers75 said:
Oh and he was so reasonable a chap and reached such logical conclusions to support his actions that they are worthy of stating as a valid hypothesis to support actions then?
Bin laden stated why he ordered the attacks. Why do you think he ordered the attacks? I haven't once said I agreed with him. So, a report that was put together a long while ago is released by the DEMS just before they lose control of Congress. The WH even said this could bring harm to Americans, they do it anyway. It is not as if transparency is on their agenda with all of the Obama administration scandals they have been covering up; therefore, it must be sour grapes, etc.
Jose' Rodrigues, the former head of the Clandestine Service reminded everyone that the enhanced interegation techniques were approved by the Justice Dept, briefed to and approved by both parties, including Nacy Pelosi and Barbara Feinstien. They voted their approval, it is on record. Why did they allow that then?
The Brits do these things, as does other allies, we are just the only dumbasses to up and tell everyone.
Jose' Rodrigues, the former head of the Clandestine Service reminded everyone that the enhanced interegation techniques were approved by the Justice Dept, briefed to and approved by both parties, including Nacy Pelosi and Barbara Feinstien. They voted their approval, it is on record. Why did they allow that then?
The Brits do these things, as does other allies, we are just the only dumbasses to up and tell everyone.
KareemK said:
HD Adam said:
WEHGuy said:
No it wasn't, The US are just the nice big protector of the world's good guy's democracy against them evil bullies.
Go on then, I'll bite.Where would you rather live?
USA / UK?
or
Russia / China / North Korea / Middle East / Africa etc.
Do we need a poll (or parrot)?
It's not an Either/Or situation surely.
Sure, we'd all like to sit around in fluffy kitten land singing "Kumbaya" and holding hands but that's not very realistic.
Go on, make a choice. UK or Tribal Hills of Afghanistan/Pakistan right this second.
pork911 said:
HoHoHo said:
pork911 said:
further comedy gold
Rather than try and be funny please explain your thoughts.Over to you....
In law, rendition is a "surrender" or "handing over" of persons or property, particularly from one jurisdiction to another.
I'm hoping I'm not handed over to ICIS
And you?
HoHoHo said:
pork911 said:
HoHoHo said:
pork911 said:
further comedy gold
Rather than try and be funny please explain your thoughts.Over to you....
In law, rendition is a "surrender" or "handing over" of persons or property, particularly from one jurisdiction to another.
I'm hoping I'm not handed over to ICIS
And you?
Jimbeaux said:
KareemK said:
Jimbeaux said:
The Brits do these things, as does other allies, we are just the only dumbasses to up and tell everyone.
I'd argue thats your one redeeming feature in all this.It takes a big man to admit when they're wrong, and that is what the US has just done.
EskimoArapaho said:
Wrong. Stop projecting your own morals on to other people.
In your rush to point out you sit astride the mighty high horse of morality, you've taken his post entirely literally. He clearly didn't mean all 7 billion people in the world think exactly the same thing.
Bill said:
It's not like this is news. Torture has been going on, and is notoriously ineffective. It's been a recruitment aid for extremists since it started and an embarrassment for anyone who believes our way is better.
It takes a big man to admit when they're wrong, and that is what the US has just done.
Be careful, simpletons might assume you somehow support Bin Laden. It takes a big man to admit when they're wrong, and that is what the US has just done.
Bill said:
Jimbeaux said:
KareemK said:
Jimbeaux said:
The Brits do these things, as does other allies, we are just the only dumbasses to up and tell everyone.
I'd argue thats your one redeeming feature in all this.It takes a big man to admit when they're wrong, and that is what the US has just done.
pork911 said:
Bill said:
It takes a big man to admit when they're wrong, and that is what the US has just done.
easy to do when there are likely no consequencesJimbeaux said:
pork911 said:
Bill said:
It takes a big man to admit when they're wrong, and that is what the US has just done.
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