Who is most hated - Thatcher or Blair
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I guess my point was that there wont be students in 20+ years hating on Blair, Blair is going to fade into history as a slimy pocket liner, Thatcher will always have that handed-down-bogeyman thing that will keep going.
The people that hate thatcher will tell their children's children how she took away the milk and closed t pits, those of us that hate Blair will simply forget him as he is replaced by more self serving career politicians. I am already forming a decent hatred for the Milliband brothers.
The people that hate thatcher will tell their children's children how she took away the milk and closed t pits, those of us that hate Blair will simply forget him as he is replaced by more self serving career politicians. I am already forming a decent hatred for the Milliband brothers.
bennyboydurham said:
The folk that hate Thatcher shout the loudest, which skews the result somewhat. I genuinely believe that most people understand she had no choice but to drag the country kicking and streaming from a 70s tax and spend, unionised disaster zone to a lean market-based economy that is really now the accepted economic model.
Blair was just an actor. He said what he needed to say, but let Gordon do his worst as chancellor for all those years. Now, we see Blair for what he was, full of crap. So Blair more hated for me.
Strange bloke if you ask me. Wanted to be rich and live the life of the rich elite in London. Why though? What good is money to someone that high profile? He can't go round splashing money on x number of mistresses and falling out of bars in the early hours, he may be invited onto the bbc occasionally (whoopee doo), but overall it's a hollow victory. Like the royal family he is constrained by the limits of his role, despite wealth. Blair was just an actor. He said what he needed to say, but let Gordon do his worst as chancellor for all those years. Now, we see Blair for what he was, full of crap. So Blair more hated for me.
I'm with kermit, at least Thatcher did what she thought was best for the country, Blair was in it for himself as his bank statement clearly demonstrates. He genuinely makes my skin crawl when he starts on about his religious devotion given the thousands of dead after his exploits with Bush, never mind what happened to people who got in his way (David Kelly). Man of God maybe but I think he follows the one from down below.
Edited by oddball1973 on Thursday 11th December 21:05
Thatcher haters generally refuse to look beyond what they've been told, or beyond what happened to their own self-interests.
Blair haters are more widespread but less vociferous as it's now generally accepted how much he lied and he now has few or no supporters or advocates.
There will always be far more more debate over Thatcher simply because she still and will probably always have more supporters for her deeds and actions than Blair.
As for them meeting in Hell, I think probably not as I think there might be a very special corner reserved for one of them down there.
Blair haters are more widespread but less vociferous as it's now generally accepted how much he lied and he now has few or no supporters or advocates.
There will always be far more more debate over Thatcher simply because she still and will probably always have more supporters for her deeds and actions than Blair.
As for them meeting in Hell, I think probably not as I think there might be a very special corner reserved for one of them down there.
kambites said:
I think Thatcher probably did more harm
You might possibly believe that. Alternatively, you might like to consider that crap management, crap politicians and crap unions had conspired to do the harm ever since the end of the war, and Thatcher just happened to be the person left with the job of trying to steer the country away from the abyss.Harm was undoubtedly done to many communities, but blaming Thatcher for it is questionable at best.
Hate them both for various reasons. And growing up in a mining village I wqyched thatcher tear my village (and the whole area) to shreds.
BUT
She had the interests of the country at heart. She wanted to change things and better the country. She came up with revolutionary policy.
Blair lied, cheated and only had his own self serving at heart
This Blair is the bigger
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BUT
She had the interests of the country at heart. She wanted to change things and better the country. She came up with revolutionary policy.
Blair lied, cheated and only had his own self serving at heart
This Blair is the bigger
. eltax91 said:
Hate them both for various reasons. And growing up in a mining village I wqyched thatcher tear my village (and the whole area) to shreds.
BUT
She had the interests of the country at heart. She wanted to change things and better the country. She came up with revolutionary policy.
Blair lied, cheated and only had his own self serving at heart
This Blair is the bigger.
this, despite being a teenage scot at the time of the miners strike. most people i know realise thatcher was acting on genuine belief and principle.blair was and is an evil lying BUT
She had the interests of the country at heart. She wanted to change things and better the country. She came up with revolutionary policy.
Blair lied, cheated and only had his own self serving at heart
This Blair is the bigger
. .Hate them both but Thatcher was an evil vindictive witch, she should have been burned at the stake in the 70s.
Blair? A chancer and a good one, you have to give him that but his open door immigration policy will come back and haunt this country in the future, perhaps it's already started?
Blair? A chancer and a good one, you have to give him that but his open door immigration policy will come back and haunt this country in the future, perhaps it's already started?
E24man said:
Thatcher haters generally refuse to look beyond what they've been told, or beyond what happened to their own self-interests.
Blair haters are more widespread but less vociferous as it's now generally accepted how much he lied and he now has few or no supporters or advocates.
There will always be far more more debate over Thatcher simply because she still and will probably always have more supporters for her deeds and actions than Blair.
As for them meeting in Hell, I think probably not as I think there might be a very special corner reserved for one of them down there.
Isn't the devil supposed to dislike God? If I was the devil, I'd be telling Blair to fBlair haters are more widespread but less vociferous as it's now generally accepted how much he lied and he now has few or no supporters or advocates.
There will always be far more more debate over Thatcher simply because she still and will probably always have more supporters for her deeds and actions than Blair.
As for them meeting in Hell, I think probably not as I think there might be a very special corner reserved for one of them down there.
k off upstairs as soon as he got there! Yes, maybe I'd get to spend all eternity jabbing him up the arse with a pointy stick, but frankly, that's just not sufficient compensation for the fact that I'd have to spend all eternity with the odious st in the first place!Hate is the wrong word really.
People who hated Thatcher really hated her, in a deep visceral unyielding dance on her grave way. I'm talking Yorkshire miners from the 80's, steel workers etc.. People who had real and genuine cause to hate her hated her with a passion but they were a pretty small group. Most people who say they hated her really just disliked what she stood for or what they perceived her to be.
People say they hated Blair but they didn't hate him like that, they really just disliked him as a chameleon like champagne socialist. The only people who have any cause to really hate him are the same people who really hated Thatcher - genuine socialists because he finished them off forever.
People who hated Thatcher really hated her, in a deep visceral unyielding dance on her grave way. I'm talking Yorkshire miners from the 80's, steel workers etc.. People who had real and genuine cause to hate her hated her with a passion but they were a pretty small group. Most people who say they hated her really just disliked what she stood for or what they perceived her to be.
People say they hated Blair but they didn't hate him like that, they really just disliked him as a chameleon like champagne socialist. The only people who have any cause to really hate him are the same people who really hated Thatcher - genuine socialists because he finished them off forever.
dudleybloke said:
I would say Blair.
Thatcher had her problems, her liking of nonces for one, but at least she tried to improve things whereas Tone seemed more bothered about kissing up to the US neo-cons "new world" agenda.
I think if this pans out to be factual (i.e. no action against known perps whilst she was in office) will alter a lot of people's opinion. Thatcher had her problems, her liking of nonces for one, but at least she tried to improve things whereas Tone seemed more bothered about kissing up to the US neo-cons "new world" agenda.
Still, she's dead but that two-faced, self-serving, witch-copulating bellend is still alive & I will not stop hating him until he's flayed alive, hung, drawn & quartered, bought back to life & then set on fire, just so I won't piss on the flames.
Erm, colours to the mast & all that.
For me it's definitely Blair.
Many may argue that Thatcher did a lot of damage to this country, but you could also argue she turned the country around, and brought it into the modern competitive era after facing down the unions.
But Blair / Brown only did damage in my eyes. Really struggling to think of one positive thing he did for this country.
Many may argue that Thatcher did a lot of damage to this country, but you could also argue she turned the country around, and brought it into the modern competitive era after facing down the unions.
But Blair / Brown only did damage in my eyes. Really struggling to think of one positive thing he did for this country.
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