Life found on Mars?!

[jmorgan]

Don't think there are many serious people saying there is no other life out there. The chances of meeting them is another thing.

[Thankyou4calling]

jmorgan said:

Don't think there are many serious people saying there is no other life out there. The chances of meeting them is another thing.

I'm a serious person and i'm saying there is no other life out there.

If anybody proves beyond reasonable doubt in my lifetime that there is, I will happily put all my estate in their name.

[KareemK]

Thankyou4calling said:

I'm a serious person and i'm saying there is no other life out there.

Thats almost a statistical impossibility.

Now, where's my new house?

[Dr Jekyll]

Thankyou4calling said:

I'm a serious person and i'm saying there is no other life out there.

If anybody proves beyond reasonable doubt in my lifetime that there is, I will happily put all my estate in their name.

By 'out there' are you referring to the solar system or the entire universe?

[Vipers]

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Thankyou4calling said:

jmorgan said:

Don't think there are many serious people saying there is no other life out there. The chances of meeting them is another thing.

I'm a serious person and i'm saying there is no other life out there.

If anybody proves beyond reasonable doubt in my lifetime that there is, I will happily put all my estate in their name.

Our sun supports life, there are over two million stars we know of so far, and you think we are the only planet with life on? Interesting.

http://www.rssd.esa.int/index.php?project=HIPPARCO...

Not that I think it will be proven in our lifetime, so your bet is safe me thinks. In fact we may never ever find out.

[Thankyou4calling]

Dr Jekyll said:

By 'out there' are you referring to the solar system or the entire universe?

Anywhere. To infinity and beyond.

There's nothing there, nothing.

We have looked and come up with the square root of zero.

No aliens, no flying saucers, no plants, one day we will all realise the truth is not out there.

[jmorgan]

Thankyou4calling said:

jmorgan said:

Don't think there are many serious people saying there is no other life out there. The chances of meeting them is another thing.

I'm a serious person and i'm saying there is no other life out there.

If anybody proves beyond reasonable doubt in my lifetime that there is, I will happily put all my estate in their name.

We are proof it happens. But as you say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I expect it to come in examining planets spectra as our methods get better and I hope to see it in my lifetime.

BTW, hope you have a nice estate, not a BMW is it?

[TLandCruiser]

just hope they don't find oil on mars, or they may be accused of having WMD and face invasion!

[Dr Jekyll]

Thankyou4calling said:

Anywhere. To infinity and beyond.

There's nothing there, nothing.

We have looked and come up with the square root of zero.

No aliens, no flying saucers, no plants, one day we will all realise the truth is not out there.

Except that we haven't. We've only looked in this solar system, and not all of that. You do realise there are about 100 billion stars in our galaxy, most of which we can't even see yet? And around 100 billion other galaxies?

[Ayahuasca]

Vipers said:

Our sun supports life, there are over two million stars we know of so far, and you think we are the only planet with life on? Interesting.

http://www.rssd.esa.int/index.php?project=HIPPARCO...

Not that I think it will be proven in our lifetime, so your bet is safe me thinks. In fact we may never ever find out.

Two million stars? There are billions of them!

[jmorgan]

Vipers said:

Not that I think it will be proven in our lifetime, so your bet is safe me thinks. In fact we may never ever find out.

An interesting thing about atmospheres is you can examine them and we can expect certain things. I think this will be the way rather than an alien paying us a visit.

[Eric Mc]

Dr Jekyll said:

Except that we haven't. We've only looked in this solar system, and not all of that. You do realise there are about 100 billion stars in our galaxy, most of which we can't even see yet? And around 100 billion other galaxies?

Exactly, We've hardly even started looking.

We only discovered the first planet outside the Solar System in 1995. So far we have identified about 1,000 - all orbiting fairly nearby stars.

Some of these planets are already showing some promise as being possibly habitable. The search has only just begun.

[Ayahuasca]

The trick would be to find another habitable planet before we burn this one, or its resources, up.

Then again, it will be academic to most people. There are some 7 billion people on earth. If we found a new habitable planetary home soon, how many of us would be going? At best a handful.

Which kind of begs the question, what are we doing it for?

Is the Earth's human population as a whole some kind of multi-celled life form that must seek to reproduce itself before it dies? So that its basic 'DNA' - if not its cells themselves - survive?

With this space exploration malarkey, is humanity just creating an escape pod for a few of the brightest members of the elite?

Edited by Ayahuasca on Thursday 18th December 18:55

[Vipers]

Ayahuasca said:

Vipers said:

Our sun supports life, there are over two million stars we know of so far, and you think we are the only planet with life on? Interesting.

http://www.rssd.esa.int/index.php?project=HIPPARCO...

Not that I think it will be proven in our lifetime, so your bet is safe me thinks. In fact we may never ever find out.

Two million stars? There are billions of them!

I only quoted the article.

[ATG]

HD Adam said:

I welcome our new Overlords

And their robot servants. All hail the baked potato!

[Eric Mc]

Ayahuasca said:

The trick would be to find another habitable planet before we burn this one, or its resources, up.

Then again, it will be academic to most people. There are some 7 billion people on earth. If we found a new habitable planetary home soon, how many of us would be going? At best a handful.

Which kind of begs the question, what are we doing it for?

Is the Earth's human population as a whole some kind of multi-celled life form that must seek to reproduce itself before it dies? So that its basic 'DNA' - if not its cells themselves - survive?

With this space exploration malarkey, is humanity just creating an escape pod for a few of the brightest members of the elite?

Edited by Ayahuasca on Thursday 18th December 18:55

So what. It';s fun to find stuff out.

[andy_s]

Ayahuasca said:

The trick would be to find another habitable planet before we burn this one, or its resources, up.

Then again, it will be academic to most people. There are some 7 billion people on earth. If we found a new habitable planetary home soon, how many of us would be going? At best a handful.

Which kind of begs the question, what are we doing it for?

Is the Earth's human population as a whole some kind of multi-celled life form that must seek to reproduce itself before it dies? So that its basic 'DNA' - if not its cells themselves - survive?

With this space exploration malarkey, is humanity just creating an escape pod for a few of the brightest members of the elite?

Edited by Ayahuasca on Thursday 18th December 18:55

Maybe easier to leave the elite here and send off the Morlocks to 'greener pastures'....

[SpudLink]

Ayahuasca said:

The trick would be to find another habitable planet before we burn this one, or its resources, up.

Then again, it will be academic to most people. There are some 7 billion people on earth. If we found a new habitable planetary home soon, how many of us would be going? At best a handful.

Which kind of begs the question, what are we doing it for?

Is the Earth's human population as a whole some kind of multi-celled life form that must seek to reproduce itself before it dies? So that its basic 'DNA' - if not its cells themselves - survive?

With this space exploration malarkey, is humanity just creating an escape pod for a few of the brightest members of the elite?

Assuming we found an Earth type planet in the next few years, and found a way to transport half the Earth's population to it, how long do you reckon it would take before we were running out of resources there, as well as here?
In the last century I think we've increased our population by about 400%. The rate of increase is exponential, which suggests that within a century we would have overcrowded both planets.
I'm Not going eco-mental, just though it needed saying.

And on the subject of deciding who to send, Douglas Adams covered that one in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

[Dr Jekyll]

SpudLink said:

In the last century I think we've increased our population by about 400%. The rate of increase is exponential, which suggests that within a century we would have overcrowded both planets.

It isn't exponential though, in fact it's slowing down. So we don't need to move our telephone sanitisers to the other planet, just mine resources there and bring them back here. In which case the other planet doesn't have to be habitable even.
Of course journey time and distance could be an issue.

[Einion Yrth]

Ayahuasca said:

The trick would be to find another habitable planet before we burn this one, or its resources, up.

We don't need to live on a planet. With adequate technology, resources and crucially energy, other ways of living become possible. We work our way by baby steps, some of which will be less than desirable, up to a civilisation that uses a large percentage of the resources and energy available within our solar system, ( this would already have protected the species against a "Chicxulub" "dinosaur killer") and then look to other stars as a protection from gamma ray bursters and local supernovae.

Or we could just keep chucking a spare couple of bob at poor people to make us feel better about starting wars and shooting them instead.