Poor little insurgents - they got shouted at - boohoo!

[Dog Star]

fking ludicrous!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30515369

A tent peg got banged on a table! They got shouted at! Diddums!
Seriously - what the fk is going on? They mount an ambush, they're insurgents.

How about they get bladdered round the head and then get their head chopped off, or get imprisoned in some stty cell with fk all for years on end, as they'd do to our soldiers.

Personally I couldn't give a crap what happens to them.

Bet they get a fortune in compensation too. They must be absolutely laughing their heads off.

[Baryonyx]

£31m? Great value for money.

[carreauchompeur]

It also described as "ill treatment" an interrogator banging a tent peg on a table and walking around a blindfolded detainee blowing on the back of his neck.


Pathetic.

[grumbledoak]

Overall, okay. It exonerates our soldiers, and says of the cry-babies

judge said:

had given evidence that was "unprincipled in the extreme" and "wholly without regard to the truth".

Which is no surprise, given their beliefs. But as it does not mean we can discard any future fairy tales I'm not sure it was worth the £31M

[ellroy]

This has never had anything to do with justice, or ill treatment of prisoners, who are not covered under the GC as they're not a State military force, by the way.

As usual follow the money.

It's always been about greedy bloody lawyers. Scum, I think, just about covers it.

[pork911]

fallon's comments regarding the lawyers were laughable

[spaximus]

If any group need going to town on it is the lawyers in this one. The public should recoup every penny spent on this case from them as it is clear the "victims" were a bunch of lying toe rags who do not know what the truth is.
this case was about a group with an agenda, using another group with an agenda to cause problems.

Also, when did blowing on someones neck or banging a table be wrong under the Geneva convention?

[NicD]

spaximus said:

If any group need going to town on it is the lawyers in this one. The public should recoup every penny spent on this case from them as it is clear the "victims" were a bunch of lying toe rags who do not know what the truth is.
this case was about a group with an agenda, using another group with an agenda to cause problems.

Also, when did blowing on someones neck or banging a table be wrong under the Geneva convention?

yes, staggering that we as a public public tolerate this treasonous behaviour and I mean this, no sarcasm or irony.

[55palfers]

It would be good to see a breakdown of where the £31M went.

Is there such a document?

[Grumfutock]

And yet we are going back in to Iraq and setting ourselves up for more of the same. To hell with the lot on them!

[NicD]

Yes, we should send our troops (or anyone, in fact) only under condition of full immunity.
This way is madness.

[Grumfutock]

We should not send them, simples!

[Hoofy]

carreauchompeur said:

walking around a blindfolded detainee blowing on the back of his neck.

I pay good money for that!

[Grumfutock]

Hoofy said:

carreauchompeur said:

walking around a blindfolded detainee blowing on the back of his neck.

I pay good money for that!

Well we all bloody have now, about £30 million!!!!

[NicD]

pork911 said:

fallon's comments regarding the lawyers were laughable

you think this is laughable? Looks right on the money to me.


'Mr Fallon said: 'This was a shameful attempt to use our legal system to attack and falsely impune our armed forces.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2877320/Al...

[pork911]

spaximus said:

If any group need going to town on it is the lawyers in this one. The public should recoup every penny spent on this case from them as it is clear the "victims" were a bunch of lying toe rags who do not know what the truth is.
this case was about a group with an agenda, using another group with an agenda to cause problems.

Also, when did blowing on someones neck or banging a table be wrong under the Geneva convention?

NicD said:

pork911 said:

fallon's comments regarding the lawyers were laughable

you think this is laughable? Looks right on the money to me.

'Mr Fallon said: 'This was a shameful attempt to use our legal system to attack and falsely impune our armed forces.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2877320/Al...

don't fall for it

you'll be aware of all his mate grayling's moves on legal aid generally and also on judicial reviews - not least misleading parliament at the start of this month http://www.scribd.com/doc/249729785/Chris-Grayling...

Edited by pork911 on Thursday 18th December 00:46

[alfaman]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I didnt realise she was involved ....eurghhhh !!!

[NicD]

pork911 said:

don't fall for it

you'll be aware of all his mate grayling's moves on legal aid generally and also on judicial reviews - not least misleading parliament at the start of this month http://www.scribd.com/doc/249729785/Chris-Grayling...

Edited by pork911 on Thursday 18th December 00:46

I have noted your comments on those threads.
I agree with the thrust to reduce the public cost.
Do you have a connection to the UK legal profession? You seem to take it rather personally.

[pork911]

NicD said:

pork911 said:

don't fall for it

you'll be aware of all his mate grayling's moves on legal aid generally and also on judicial reviews - not least misleading parliament at the start of this month http://www.scribd.com/doc/249729785/Chris-Grayling...

Edited by pork911 on Thursday 18th December 00:46

I have noted your comments on those threads.
I agree with the thrust to reduce the public cost.
Do you have a connection to the UK legal profession? You seem to take it rather personally.

do you agree with misleading parliament on such a key matter in that debate?


my connection is no longer, practised more abroad and anyway was never publicly funded - so never any skin in this fight but of course only absolute amateurs with no even tenuous experience whatsoever should ever comment on such things (presumably home mechanics threads should be restricted to latin lit academics who don't drive?)

what grayling has been and is doing is appalling

fallon's comments - hmmm - who will be apologising on behalf of the crown to anyone found not guilty and for the waste of public money?

or does it just apply to anti-oooman rights BS PR?

and it's not as if a british soldier would ever murder an insurgent...ooopsy

[Grumfutock]

Heaven forbid that any lawyer might string the case out to make some more money. That could never happen...oooopsy!