EU - obesity is a disability
Discussion
Purity14 said:
No, that is not necessarily true; Unless you are being ridiculous in your quantity sizes of course.
For example:
1000 calories of chocolate, crisps and cake
vs
1000 calories of raspberrys, strawberries, blackberrys, almonds, cashews etc.
Which one will make you fatter?
Neither will make you fat, if that's all you consume per day. For example:
1000 calories of chocolate, crisps and cake
vs
1000 calories of raspberrys, strawberries, blackberrys, almonds, cashews etc.
Which one will make you fatter?
Both will make you fat if you consume three times that amount per day.
One of them is more likely to increase your risk of other diseases if that's most of what you eat, though neither is a complete diet.
Purity14 said:
These aren't even the worst culprits, look at "Old el Paso Fajita Mix" - for every 100g of the product, it contains 54g of sugar!
What is all that about?
Do you mean this? http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id...What is all that about?
The 35g packet of spice mix that contains 2.4g of sugar which is 0.6g per portion?
It's not a disease, it's an addiction.
The culprit is and always has been dopamine and the brain's drive/reward "system." Pretty much every single action or thing any of us do in life, apart from maybe sleep, can be traced back to this. Eating food triggers the release of dopamine which feels good and tells you you've done something good for your survival as an animal. Sugary food causes even more. Modern life has such food so easily available that more and more of this can be consumed pretty much as and when we like it. The more you consume, the less sensitised your dopamine receptors become and more is needed to get the same satisfaction.
Cocaine works by keeping more dopamine "free" in the brain to activate the receptors.... which again also become desensitised over time. Its the same with food, sex, money, achievement, excitement, search fro information, social interaction, everything. Its a never ending loop that is pretty much impossible to break without drastic intervention. Pretty much every action you have taken today is due to dopamine and its reward-seek again-reward-seek again cycle.
Little buzz of excitement when you receive a text? Hello dopamine. Couldn't help but look down at that hottie's chest earlier? Hello dopamine. Had one chocolate out of the box, but just had to have another one? Hello dopamine.
Some people are better than others as controlling the instinct.
When you realise and harness those drives, life becomes a lot better
The culprit is and always has been dopamine and the brain's drive/reward "system." Pretty much every single action or thing any of us do in life, apart from maybe sleep, can be traced back to this. Eating food triggers the release of dopamine which feels good and tells you you've done something good for your survival as an animal. Sugary food causes even more. Modern life has such food so easily available that more and more of this can be consumed pretty much as and when we like it. The more you consume, the less sensitised your dopamine receptors become and more is needed to get the same satisfaction.
Cocaine works by keeping more dopamine "free" in the brain to activate the receptors.... which again also become desensitised over time. Its the same with food, sex, money, achievement, excitement, search fro information, social interaction, everything. Its a never ending loop that is pretty much impossible to break without drastic intervention. Pretty much every action you have taken today is due to dopamine and its reward-seek again-reward-seek again cycle.
Little buzz of excitement when you receive a text? Hello dopamine. Couldn't help but look down at that hottie's chest earlier? Hello dopamine. Had one chocolate out of the box, but just had to have another one? Hello dopamine.
Some people are better than others as controlling the instinct.
When you realise and harness those drives, life becomes a lot better
BGARK said:
chris watton said:
How can consuming a lot more calories than you use per day be considered a disability?
It will be moved onto becoming a mental health issue next, as an excuse for not being able to think before eating.
My view is that all fat people should be rounded up in cattle trucks and put into state run diet camps, where they would be starved. Also every day they would be stripped to their huge filthy underwear and chased round a muddy field whilst being horsewhipped. This will happen until they eventually become thin, then they would be let go again, lesson learnt.
And yet, when I proposed this solution to The British Obesity Society, the fat idiots threatened to report me. Unbelievable!
And yet, when I proposed this solution to The British Obesity Society, the fat idiots threatened to report me. Unbelievable!
Can't we just make them pariahs like what has been done to smokers?
Ban them from eating their Greggs pasties in public, tut at them as they lick the grease off their fat fingers, put up 'No Gorging' signs everywhere, constantly increase the price of their addiction every budget etc etc.....
Ban them from eating their Greggs pasties in public, tut at them as they lick the grease off their fat fingers, put up 'No Gorging' signs everywhere, constantly increase the price of their addiction every budget etc etc.....
Purity14 said:
The problem is, if you told these fatty-bum-bums to create a healthy dish from scratch and showed them how to do it, the following would result:
It is this sort of mindless bigotry the ruling prevents.Naeema Choudry said:
“Today’s decision clarifies that, under the European Equal Treatment Framework Directive, obesity is not always a disability per se, but it is a condition which can give rise to discrimination protection."
The ruling is therefore not some sort of free pass, but it does prevent discrimination on the grounds of obesity, which is entirely sensible. Just like it would be sensible to avoid discriminating against Purity14 et. al. for their ignorance.Edited by Martin4x4 on Friday 19th December 13:06
One thing that always worries me is that we seem to blame the eater rather than the makers of food. For to long have the food producers got away with this. They use food labelling to hoodwink people, its become a real test of skill to actually find out what is in stuff we eat. Claiming things are fat free, or less sugar, when in reality it has some other harmful s
t+ in it.
The tobacco companies have been hounded for years, and quite rightly so. When are Governments going to start getting tough on the makers and retailers of our food? If they sell stuff thats bad for you, make them put a skull and crossbones on the lid. Or a picture of an overweight child.
t+ in it.The tobacco companies have been hounded for years, and quite rightly so. When are Governments going to start getting tough on the makers and retailers of our food? If they sell stuff thats bad for you, make them put a skull and crossbones on the lid. Or a picture of an overweight child.
Martin4x4 said:
Naeema Choudry says: “Today’s decision clarifies that, under the European Equal Treatment Framework Directive, obesity is not always a disability per se, but it is a condition which can give rise to discrimination protection."
The ruling is therefore not some sort of free pass, but it does prevent discrimination on the grounds of obesity, which is entirely sensible.
The ruling is therefore not some sort of free pass, but it does prevent discrimination on the grounds of obesity, which is entirely sensible.
This is the bloke in question who won the ruling. Not sure will be able to bend down to tie a childs shoelaces or chase after one running away.
eu said:
While no general principle of EU law prohibits, in itself, discrimination on grounds of obesity, that condition falls within the concept of ‘disability’ where, under particular conditions, it hinders the full and effective participation of the person concerned in professional life on an equal basis with other workers.”
off course being huge will hinder you against a more normal person 
Edited by Yazar on Thursday 18th December 14:28
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