Russell Brand is a Bellend: More evidence.
Discussion
Oakey said:
You're all just Brandophobes, or something
I am. He's just not endeared himself to me in any way. There's ways and means of getting through to people with an articulate message. It doesnt have to be politicspeak, plain English will do. Sticking his attitude into my face and the type of vocabulary he uses says that he doesnt actually have a clue of what he's angry about - it takes him so long to get to the point that I've turned offThe actual subject matter he chooses that I've watched seems to be low level bulls
t that eventually gets sorted out or forgotten about rather than anything actually importantDr Jekyll said:
Mr Whippy said:
And who gives a toss about the guys lunch going cold? Is he being serious or something? Or trying to be funny? Or ironic. It didn't come across but hey.
Dave
The guy in question cares, and why shouldn't he?Dave
And you thought Brand whinged about irrelevant issues
Mr Whippy said:
I think he has valid concerns about where society might be heading so there is nothing wrong with him airing them.
Do you know what they are? Either his genuine concerns or his views? From the various interviews and debates I've seen him in I genuinely do not know. I haven't read his book but the reviews of it seem to say it's more of the same jibberish.I wouldn't actually say I have no clue what he thinks - there are clues that he's generally against high salaries and in favour of government spending but nothing I would really consider to be a formed concern or view.
My best guess is that he's quite cleverly creating some sort of a situation comedy act akin to the Emperors new clothes whereby this absurd character with nothing to say gets taken deadly seriously by people who should know better. The actual words matter little except to vaguely point in the approved direction of his foil. If this is a conscious plan by Brand then it's a clever one and will in time make his cheerleaders look very foolish indeed.
AJS- said:
Mr Whippy said:
I think he has valid concerns about where society might be heading so there is nothing wrong with him airing them.
Do you know what they are? Either his genuine concerns or his views? From the various interviews and debates I've seen him in I genuinely do not know. I haven't read his book but the reviews of it seem to say it's more of the same jibberish.I wouldn't actually say I have no clue what he thinks - there are clues that he's generally against high salaries and in favour of government spending but nothing I would really consider to be a formed concern or view.
My best guess is that he's quite cleverly creating some sort of a situation comedy act akin to the Emperors new clothes whereby this absurd character with nothing to say gets taken deadly seriously by people who should know better. The actual words matter little except to vaguely point in the approved direction of his foil. If this is a conscious plan by Brand then it's a clever one and will in time make his cheerleaders look very foolish indeed.
Just saying. Most people don't waste their time for no raisin.
Dave
This was the lothario's response (nicked from FaceAche...
Hello Jo, thanks for your open letter, I do remember you from the melee outside RBS and firstly, I’d like to say sorry for your paella getting cold. It’s not nice to suffer because of actions that are nothing to do with you. I imagine the disabled people of our country who have been hit with £6bn of benefit cuts during the period that RBS received £46bn of public bail-out money feel similarly cheesed off.
I can’t apologise for the RBS lockdown though mate because, I don’t have the authority to close great big institutions – even ones found guilty of criminal activity.
The locking of the doors and your tarnished lunch came about as the result of orders from “the faceless bosses” upstairs after I wandered in on my own while we secretly filmed from across the street - then security swarmed, all the doors were locked and crowds gathered outside. I must say Jo; it felt like RBS had something terrible to hide. But more of that in a minute.
Neither was I there for publicity, although you could be forgiven for thinking that; for many years I have earned my money (and paid my taxes) by showing off. If I needed negative publicity (and, believe me, that’s all talking publicly about inequality can ever get you) I could get it by using the “N word” on telly, or putting a cat in a bin, or having a romantic liaison with the lad from TOWIE.
I was there with filmmaker Michael Winterbottom making a documentary about how the economic crises caused by the banking industry (RBS were found guilty of rigging Libor and the foreign exchange) has led to an economic attack on the most vulnerable people in society. I don’t want to undermine your personal inconvenience Jo, I’d be the first to admit that I’m often more vexed by little things; iPhone chargers continually changing makes me as angry as apartheid - so I can’t claim any personal moral high ground, but a chance to make a film that highlights how £80bn of austerity cuts were made, punishing society’s most vulnerable during the same period that bankers awarded themselves £81bn in bonuses was irresistible.
The mob upstairs at RBS who exiled you with your rapidly deteriorating lunch have had £4bn in bonuses since the crash. Do they deserve our money more than Britain’s disabled? Or Britain’s students who are now charged to learn? Is that fair?
They were some of the questions I was hoping to ask your boss – but we got no joy through the “proper channels” so we decided to just show up.
Not just to RBS, but also to Lloyds, HSBC and Barclays. I know that the regular folk on the floor aren’t guilty of this trick against ordinary people; they’re like anyone, trying to make ends meet. As you point out though, it’s hard to get to the men at the top so we were forced into door-stopping and inadvertent lunch spoiling. The good news is that this film and even this correspondence will reach hundreds of thousands of people and they’ll learn how they’re being conned by the financial industry and turned against one another - that’s got to be a good thing, even if it makes me look a bit of a twit in the process and the national dish of Spain is eaten sub-par.
Now I’ll be the first to admit your lunch has been an unwitting casualty in this well-intentioned quest but I couldn’t resist the opportunity to ask new RBS boss Ross McEwan if he thinks it’s right that he got a £3.2m “golden hello” when the RBS is sellotaped together with money that comes from everyone else’s taxes. I wonder what he would’ve said? Or whether it’s right that Fred “the shred” (he shredded evidence of impropriety) Goodwin gets to keep his £320k a year pension while disabled people have had their independent living fund scrapped.
And it’s not just RBS mate. Lloyds, Barclays, Citibank and HSBC have all been found guilty of market rigging and not one banker has been jailed.
Trillions of public money lost and stolen and no one prosecuted. Remember in the riots when disaffected youth nicked the odd bottle of water or a stray pair of trainers? Criminal, I agree. 1800 years worth of sentences were meted out in special courts, to make an example. Some crime doesn’t pay, but some crime definitely does. My school mate Leigh Pickett, a fireman is being told that he and his colleagues won’t be able to collect their pension until five years later than agreed, five more years of backbreaking, flame engulfed labour – why? Because of austerity.
Put simply Jo, the banks took the money, the people paid the price.
I was there to ask a few questions to the guilty parties, now I know that’s not you, you’re just a bloke trying to make a crust and evidently you like that crust warm - but again, it wasn’t me who locked the RBS, I just asked a few difficult questions and the place went nuts. The people that have inconvenienced homeowners, pensioners, the disabled and ordinary working Brits are the same ones who inconvenienced you that lunchtime. They’ve got a lot to hide, so they locked the doors. You said my “agro demeanor” reminded you of school. Your letter reminded me of school too, when the teacher would say, “because Russell’s been naughty, the whole class has to stay behind”.
I’d never knowingly keep a workingman from his dinner, it’s unacceptable and I do owe you an apology for being lairy.
So Jo, get in touch, I owe you an apology and I’d like to take you for a hot paella to make up for the one that went cold – though you could say that was actually the fault of the shady shysters who nicked the wedge and locked you out, I’d rather err on the side of caution. When I make a mistake I like to apolgise and put it right. Hopefully your bosses will do the same to the people of Britain.
Hello Jo, thanks for your open letter, I do remember you from the melee outside RBS and firstly, I’d like to say sorry for your paella getting cold. It’s not nice to suffer because of actions that are nothing to do with you. I imagine the disabled people of our country who have been hit with £6bn of benefit cuts during the period that RBS received £46bn of public bail-out money feel similarly cheesed off.
I can’t apologise for the RBS lockdown though mate because, I don’t have the authority to close great big institutions – even ones found guilty of criminal activity.
The locking of the doors and your tarnished lunch came about as the result of orders from “the faceless bosses” upstairs after I wandered in on my own while we secretly filmed from across the street - then security swarmed, all the doors were locked and crowds gathered outside. I must say Jo; it felt like RBS had something terrible to hide. But more of that in a minute.
Neither was I there for publicity, although you could be forgiven for thinking that; for many years I have earned my money (and paid my taxes) by showing off. If I needed negative publicity (and, believe me, that’s all talking publicly about inequality can ever get you) I could get it by using the “N word” on telly, or putting a cat in a bin, or having a romantic liaison with the lad from TOWIE.
I was there with filmmaker Michael Winterbottom making a documentary about how the economic crises caused by the banking industry (RBS were found guilty of rigging Libor and the foreign exchange) has led to an economic attack on the most vulnerable people in society. I don’t want to undermine your personal inconvenience Jo, I’d be the first to admit that I’m often more vexed by little things; iPhone chargers continually changing makes me as angry as apartheid - so I can’t claim any personal moral high ground, but a chance to make a film that highlights how £80bn of austerity cuts were made, punishing society’s most vulnerable during the same period that bankers awarded themselves £81bn in bonuses was irresistible.
The mob upstairs at RBS who exiled you with your rapidly deteriorating lunch have had £4bn in bonuses since the crash. Do they deserve our money more than Britain’s disabled? Or Britain’s students who are now charged to learn? Is that fair?
They were some of the questions I was hoping to ask your boss – but we got no joy through the “proper channels” so we decided to just show up.
Not just to RBS, but also to Lloyds, HSBC and Barclays. I know that the regular folk on the floor aren’t guilty of this trick against ordinary people; they’re like anyone, trying to make ends meet. As you point out though, it’s hard to get to the men at the top so we were forced into door-stopping and inadvertent lunch spoiling. The good news is that this film and even this correspondence will reach hundreds of thousands of people and they’ll learn how they’re being conned by the financial industry and turned against one another - that’s got to be a good thing, even if it makes me look a bit of a twit in the process and the national dish of Spain is eaten sub-par.
Now I’ll be the first to admit your lunch has been an unwitting casualty in this well-intentioned quest but I couldn’t resist the opportunity to ask new RBS boss Ross McEwan if he thinks it’s right that he got a £3.2m “golden hello” when the RBS is sellotaped together with money that comes from everyone else’s taxes. I wonder what he would’ve said? Or whether it’s right that Fred “the shred” (he shredded evidence of impropriety) Goodwin gets to keep his £320k a year pension while disabled people have had their independent living fund scrapped.
And it’s not just RBS mate. Lloyds, Barclays, Citibank and HSBC have all been found guilty of market rigging and not one banker has been jailed.
Trillions of public money lost and stolen and no one prosecuted. Remember in the riots when disaffected youth nicked the odd bottle of water or a stray pair of trainers? Criminal, I agree. 1800 years worth of sentences were meted out in special courts, to make an example. Some crime doesn’t pay, but some crime definitely does. My school mate Leigh Pickett, a fireman is being told that he and his colleagues won’t be able to collect their pension until five years later than agreed, five more years of backbreaking, flame engulfed labour – why? Because of austerity.
Put simply Jo, the banks took the money, the people paid the price.
I was there to ask a few questions to the guilty parties, now I know that’s not you, you’re just a bloke trying to make a crust and evidently you like that crust warm - but again, it wasn’t me who locked the RBS, I just asked a few difficult questions and the place went nuts. The people that have inconvenienced homeowners, pensioners, the disabled and ordinary working Brits are the same ones who inconvenienced you that lunchtime. They’ve got a lot to hide, so they locked the doors. You said my “agro demeanor” reminded you of school. Your letter reminded me of school too, when the teacher would say, “because Russell’s been naughty, the whole class has to stay behind”.
I’d never knowingly keep a workingman from his dinner, it’s unacceptable and I do owe you an apology for being lairy.
So Jo, get in touch, I owe you an apology and I’d like to take you for a hot paella to make up for the one that went cold – though you could say that was actually the fault of the shady shysters who nicked the wedge and locked you out, I’d rather err on the side of caution. When I make a mistake I like to apolgise and put it right. Hopefully your bosses will do the same to the people of Britain.
Mr Whippy said:
He might be a tit,
No he is.Mr Whippy said:
he may not even articulate himself very much, but no one would make a tt out of themselves unless they felt strongly about something.
Yes he feels very strongly about publicity and his huge egot out of themselves unless they felt strongly about something.Mr Whippy said:
I think he has valid concerns about where society might be heading so there is nothing wrong with him airing them.
Indeed, but why disrupt other people's lives to get himself in the public eye. We all have the right to air our views and say stupid things but he is taking it too far.Mr Whippy said:
And who gives a toss about the guys lunch going cold? Is he being serious or something? Or trying to be funny? Or ironic. It didn't come across but hey.
I am sure he gave a toss about it, and used it to make a very good pointgaryhun said:
Mr Whippy said:
I've no idea.
Just saying. Most people don't waste their time for no raisin.
Dave
Umm... publicity?Just saying. Most people don't waste their time for no raisin.
Dave
He's an attention w
e.Why go down the path of being less popular and widely seen as a fruit-loop?
The fact he's done this suggests he has some alternative motive to popularity.
Dave
Mr Whippy said:
He might be a tit, he may not even articulate himself very much, but no one would make a tt out of themselves unless they felt strongly about something.
Who cares if he feels strongly about something or not? What matters is whether he has anything worthwhile to say. So far I'd say it was pretty obvious that he doesn't. He hasn't bothered to build an understanding of the subjects he claims to care about. He just rants. His opinions aren't based on understanding so they are valueless.t out of themselves unless they felt strongly about something.
8Ace said:
Storms wrong offices
Talks bks
Gets arse handed to him on a plate by ordinary worker.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2877449/Ru...
RBS PR dept. The authoritarian nannying tone was amusing. Gobbled up by PH plebes.Talks b
ksGets arse handed to him on a plate by ordinary worker.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2877449/Ru...
ATG said:
Mr Whippy said:
He might be a tit, he may not even articulate himself very much, but no one would make a tt out of themselves unless they felt strongly about something.
Who cares if he feels strongly about something or not? What matters is whether he has anything worthwhile to say. So far I'd say it was pretty obvious that he doesn't. He hasn't bothered to build an understanding of the subjects he claims to care about. He just rants. His opinions aren't based on understanding so they are valueless.t out of themselves unless they felt strongly about something.The whole thing is just non-news crap, and yet you all lap it up and talk about it like it's important.
Pistonheads, inane herd mentality rules.
Heaven forbid more than one person has a differing opinion on a thread, we might start to think people actually had their own opinions
Mr Whippy said:
The fact he's done this suggests he has some alternative motive to popularity.
It's known as USI, Unwarranted Self Importance.It's a crippling disease that can strike many people in the prime of their career, and that start to believe that because they have 20k twitter followers, they must be some sort of God.
Students also seem to get struck by it, no demo or march is complete without a bunch of 19 year olds that know how the world works and must share it with you.
Mr Whippy said:
Well we're meant to care about a man's lunch going cold because he can't get in his office
You seem rather distracted by this. The lunch angle was purely to make a point (he's just a normal bloke, doing normal things) and instil some humour.If you support Brand then you'll not see that. However, that's all it is.
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