Paedophile ring - military, law enforcement, political fig
Discussion
carinaman said:
Exaro news are tweeting that this Panorama programme has been put back til after the election:
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5527/bbc-at-war-...
Bet it wouldn't have been put back if it was about UKIP.http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5527/bbc-at-war-...
Uri Geller is/was mates with Janner and spoke on Radio 4's PM.
Didn't Uri Geller come to light on the Esther Rantzen show?
Wasn't Esther Rantzen a guest on the Today programme between Xmas and New Year when Baroness Butler-Closed-Shop was a Guest Editor of the Today programme?
Look at the Guido Fawkes website thread on it, I thought Starmer was good guy. Now I am not so sure.
Didn't Uri Geller come to light on the Esther Rantzen show?
Wasn't Esther Rantzen a guest on the Today programme between Xmas and New Year when Baroness Butler-Closed-Shop was a Guest Editor of the Today programme?
Look at the Guido Fawkes website thread on it, I thought Starmer was good guy. Now I am not so sure.
Speaking about cover-ups.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3057124/Fa...
The only reason I can think for keeping the files secret is its to do with a member of the establishment.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3057124/Fa...
The only reason I can think for keeping the files secret is its to do with a member of the establishment.
Russell Brand on The Trews and the UK Column News have covered the fact that files on Children's Homes are closed until 2056 or something like that.
Regarding that Welsh Newspaper from 1939. It looks excellent. Look at the photos. Papers have certainly gone backwards. That enlarged photo of the killed 4 year old girl does give me some doubts about whether it's real.
We now have dumbed down newspapers for a dumbed down population?
Regarding that Welsh Newspaper from 1939. It looks excellent. Look at the photos. Papers have certainly gone backwards. That enlarged photo of the killed 4 year old girl does give me some doubts about whether it's real.
We now have dumbed down newspapers for a dumbed down population?
carinaman said:
BBC Radio 4 World at One has been covering, and will be covering, the case of 'David' from Northern Ireland this week that said he was raped by prominent men when he moved to London in 1975.
How convenient of the BBC to state that it's got nothing to do with possible libel that stops them from publishing names of said conservative MP's & top military officials of the day in 1975 rather it's their decision that their must be at least a second source statement.One can only hope that someone does step forward in this particular case although I'm not holding my breath.
It's here, halfway through: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05stg0s
Phil
Edited by Transmitter Man on Tuesday 5th May 18:16
I was listening to this on my lunch break at work today, pretty grizzly stuff. Some of the people the victim had named were named on the program due to them being previously outed as nonces, so there was no libel worry in their cases.
It all seemed pretty convincing, if exceedingly grim. The one thing that I was surprised at was that he has photos of himself being nonced - the Met detective who was speaking said that there was every chance the child being abused in the photo was indeed the victim who had come forward, but they allowed the bloke to keep the photo. You'd have thought they'd confiscate that sort of thing, especially as it was supposed to show the child performing a sex act on a politician.
This is all very similar to a similar alleged sex ring involving top politicians, celebrities and military figures in Belgium, I'm sure in that instance the man who looked set to blow the doors off the establishment kid diddling club died under suspicious circumstances and the whole thing went cold.
It all seemed pretty convincing, if exceedingly grim. The one thing that I was surprised at was that he has photos of himself being nonced - the Met detective who was speaking said that there was every chance the child being abused in the photo was indeed the victim who had come forward, but they allowed the bloke to keep the photo. You'd have thought they'd confiscate that sort of thing, especially as it was supposed to show the child performing a sex act on a politician.
This is all very similar to a similar alleged sex ring involving top politicians, celebrities and military figures in Belgium, I'm sure in that instance the man who looked set to blow the doors off the establishment kid diddling club died under suspicious circumstances and the whole thing went cold.
MarshPhantom said:
Agree with the above, if this Paedo ring involved Muslim members of the Labour Party you can't help but think this thread would be a fair bit longer than it is.
Some people are still more interested in protecting the institution than having the truth come out.
sad as it may seem,certain posters are conspicuous by their absence on this thread .maybe they are not interested in a subject where not so long ago it would have been easy to dismiss as tin foil hattery ,yet the tin foil hat wearers were correct all along.Some people are still more interested in protecting the institution than having the truth come out.
hopefully it is just the fact that the thought of establishment people, with all the privilege and protection that comes with status ,abusing the weakest in society and treating them like some throwaway item is just too difficult to talk about.
MarshPhantom said:
Agree with the above, if this Paedo ring involved Muslim members of the Labour Party you can't help but think this thread would be a fair bit longer than it is.
I personally still believe all of the abuse cases are vaguely connected.Some speak of Common Purpose involvement, others of links (particularly, but not only in the Left) with groups who campaigned for rights of homosexuals where certain members also wanted changes made to age of consent laws and similar. No matter the perpetrators and those who have either facilitated their offences or turned a blind eye - whether in the cause of mindless political correctness, fear or complicity - there is something recurrent.
MarshPhantom said:
Agree with the above, if this Paedo ring involved Muslim members of the Labour Party you can't help but think this thread would be a fair bit longer than it is.
Some people are still more interested in protecting the institution than having the truth come out.
I think there are multiple threads though with some overlap with Derek Smith's Cyril Smith thread, the Savile thread and the Sir Cliff Richard televised police raid thread.Some people are still more interested in protecting the institution than having the truth come out.
I have some experience of police dodginess and what seems attempts to keep it covered up.
I have mentioned child abuse victim and sexual abuse whistle blower Melanie Shaw being in HMP Peterborough on pretty flaky allegations. Perhaps part of that was to get her categorised as mentally unfit so as to dismiss her allegations?
I think my displeasure with the Council employees in Rotherham that have walked off to jobs doing the same in Birmingham and Australia has been recorded here. What's the difference between those raping kids and those employed by police forces and councils that fail to stop it? I don't care what shade or religion they are, child rapists are child rapists.
Transmitter Man said:
How convenient of the BBC to state that it's got nothing to do with possible libel that stops them from publishing names of said conservative MP's & top military officials of the day in 1975 rather it's their decision that their must be at least a second source statement.
One can only hope that someone does step forward in this particular case although I'm not holding my breath.
It's here, halfway through: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05stg0s
Phil
Having two sources as a minimum is the norm in journalism. It is also regarded as a minimum in law. No journalist worth their salt would go to press without some form of independent confirmation.One can only hope that someone does step forward in this particular case although I'm not holding my breath.
It's here, halfway through: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05stg0s
Phil
Edited by Transmitter Man on Tuesday 5th May 18:16
Not done, at least by reputable journalist.
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