Paedophile ring - military, law enforcement, political fig

[anonymous-user]

Gargamel said:

It is hard to be certain whether that is the full report now or not.

It was first published in heavily redacted form in 2016.

http://barristerblogger.com/2016/11/10/henriques-r...

My understanding from the Telegraph article today, was that the full version had not yet been published, that maybe incorrect. Though Lady Brittan was asking for the full version.

I don't think the unredacted version will be published.

Am I right in thinking over 80% hasn't been released? That is certainly not typical.

Gargamel said:

On the expenses question, reading the BBC link above, they initially refused - they also refused an FOI request from the Times too. Stating that they kept no records of Officers time on cases...

Subsquently they named a figure. But why initially deny the requests?

I can't see any reason why it couldn't be in the public domain.

[Gargamel]

Condi said:

The Met know they fked up, which is why they referred Beech to another police force, and themselves to the Police complaints commission. What else do you expect?

Transparency on what happened in the investigation.

I am not vindictive, I agree if the policy was to always believe the victim then detectives are going in with a closed mind. Whose policy was that ?

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/07/four-people-...

Why did DS Kenny MacDonald tell the press that Beech’s claims were “credible and true”


Why was DCI Paul Settle placed on gardening leave when he was the most experienced inviestigator and head of the unit ? Was it because of the Tom Watson letter ?


This was the article that got me all riled up !

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/23/carl-b...

I think a few resignations or dismissals would be appropriate for a multi million pound investigation involving 31 officers over 14 months that produces absolutely fk all apart from a likely 15 yr jail term for a sad act paedo who lied about everything and got a conviction for PCOJ.

[carinaman]

So in this case Boris was correct about money being spaffed up the wall.

[anonymous-user]

carinaman said:

So in this case Boris was correct about money being spaffed up the wall.

Was he referring to his garden bridge?

[carinaman]

La Liga said:

Was he referring to his garden bridge?

Very good.

[carinaman]

He got 18 years.

BBC news coverage with FaceBook image of his Mustang:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49048972

[anonymous-user]

Good. Scum.

Let that be a decent precedent for future false allegation cases involving rape and sexual assault too.

[Oakey]

Would he have got 18 years if he'd accused Joe Nobody?

[Dromedary66]

It was multiple people that accused Leon Brittan of being a nonce though. What about the other person?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/leon-b...

[petemurphy]

OpulentBob said:

Good. Scum.

Let that be a decent precedent for future false allegation cases involving rape and sexual assault too.

This.

[easytiger123]

Dromedary66 said:

It was multiple people that accused Leon Brittan of being a nonce though. What about the other person?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/leon-b...

According to that most credible (not to say credulous) of men, Tom Watson.

[Gargamel]

Interesting that Harvey Proctor has said he might run for MP against Tom Watson in the next election.

HP, is not to be underestimated, he overturn a 10,000 Labour majority in Basildon... if he has a chance to run unopposed by the Conservatives and Brexit Party, I reckon he could take Tom down.

I think TW had the right intentions to some extent , I was a fan of his previous campaigning style particularly on phone hacking. But I reckon he has had as many hits as misses.

In the end, he passed comment - that ‘Nick’ was ‘sincere’. It is this judgement which calls his position into question. Had he simply said nothing - or said it is not for me to decide, it is simply an allegation and therefore the subject of a police investigation, then perhaps he would not be facing this pressure.

He comments on Lord Brittan, betray his true motives, which were to smear a few folks he didn’t like.

[carinaman]

In defence of Tom Watson he was involved in the book Dial M for Murdoch about phone hacking that mentioned Operation Reproof and how the public couldn't afford the expense of a trial when a police officer was found to be selling information from the Police National Computer (PNC):

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/jul/11/e...

There's another thread on NP&E about how Cambridge Analtyica may have influenced elections, and how Boris Johnson met with Alexander Nix of Cambridge Analytica.

So newspapers having personal information or 'dirt' on MPs couldn't be used to influence elections then?

I don't know how much the Leveson Inquiry into Press Standards cost, but I am certain it was significantly more than the possible cost of a trial to cover the evidence unearthed by Operation Reproof. It would have been less than the money spent investigating the malicious claims of Carl Beech.

Remember if you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to hide. But it's OK to hide stuff if the public can't afford the trial of a police officer selling information from the PNC and finding out who the customers were for that information and where it was going and what it was being used for.

Some are aggrieved about the public money wasted investigating Beech's lies. Public money spent on Operation Reproof was also wasted as a Judge decided the public couldn't afford the trial? They were both a waste of public funds.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 26th July 18:28

[easytiger123]

carinaman said:

Some are aggrieved about the public money wasted investigating Beech's lies. Public money spent on Operation Reproof was also wasted as a Judge decided the public couldn't afford the trial? They were both a waste of public funds.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 26th July 18:28

I think what people are aggrieved about is that little if any serious, objective attempt was made to investigate Beech's lies. If millions had been spent investigating rather than assuming then I don't think many people would be pissed off about this.

[ChocolateFrog]

Let's not forgot that he's actually a peado himself.

18 years is the least he deserved.

Sometimes I wish we had the US system where jail terms are served consecutively.

[Thorodin]

Did T. Watson ever say anything as detrimental as this about anyone without parliamentary privilege?

[9.3]

So I’m confused - the CPS apparently had enough evidence to prosecute Janner with 22 separate child sex cases in care homes in his Leicester constituency between 1969 and 1988 but didn’t go ahead due to his Alzheimer’s.
Were these connected with this Carl Beech chap?

[Gargamel]

9.3 said:

So I’m confused - the CPS apparently had enough evidence to prosecute Janner with 22 separate child sex cases in care homes in his Leicester constituency between 1969 and 1988 but didn’t go ahead due to his Alzheimer’s.
Were these connected with this Carl Beech chap?

No, there were several other investigation into Janner going back to 1991.

His Wiki page is interesting reading.

[carinaman]

I think it was Bigends who queried how they got the search warrants, but I'm happy to be corrected.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7299003/T...

[Gargamel]

Good article, how extraordinary that the IPOC didn’t interview the two most senior officers with oversight of the case.

Pretty much sums up a number of peoples view that the I in their name is somewhat misleading.