Paedophile ring - military, law enforcement, political fig

Paedophile ring - military, law enforcement, political fig

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Erudite geezer

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576 posts

120 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Read all about read all about it. ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30534235

You love your paedophilia threads on PistonHeads, your paedophile rings, you love your murders and your child abuse discussions.

Throw in some military establishments, law enforcement personnel and some kinky politicians too.....This has far more potential than those Asian abuse gangs medoesthinks.

Fill yer boots fellas.

Don

28,377 posts

283 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Erudite geezer said:
Read all about read all about it. ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30534235

You love your paedophilia threads on PistonHeads, your paedophile rings, you love your murders and your child abuse discussions.

Throw in some military establishments, law enforcement personnel and some kinky politicians too.....This has far more potential than those Asian abuse gangs medoesthinks.

Fill yer boots fellas.
Wrong website.

Here you go:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11301...



onyx39

11,109 posts

149 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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This is going to be massive frown

onyx39

11,109 posts

149 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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What really pisses me off about this stuff being investigated so many years later, is the accused are generally so old, if/when they are convicted, they are handed down sentences that they will probably not live to see out!

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

131 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Erudite geezer said:
Read all about read all about it. ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30534235

You love your paedophilia threads on PistonHeads, your paedophile rings, you love your murders and your child abuse discussions.

Throw in some military establishments, law enforcement personnel and some kinky politicians too.....This has far more potential than those Asian abuse gangs medoesthinks.

Fill yer boots fellas.
A Sad fact of life is that a proportion of adults abuse children. I remember when Catholic priests were the bad boys. Statistically speaking although in the headlines they were pretty much offending at the same proportionate rate as most other institutions (religious and secular).

That being the case any group of people one wants to highlight as a shower of paedos and a quick trawl of the net will produce a huge body of anecdotal evidence that they're at it. Take you pick. Whatever suits your own agenda and you have your target group to prove your point that the people you don't like, who aren't like you are as bad as you always suspected: Catholic Priests, Protestant Ministers, Muslim Imams, Atheists, Blacks, Whites, Asians, Scoutmasters, those working in social care, charity workers for organisations such as Bernardos, Police Offices, those with criminal records. Soldiers, State School Teachers, Public Scool Teachers, Native Britains, Immigrants, the rich and powerful, the poor and needy step parents and natural parents.

And if I've missed some group you've always suspected of being child abusers? Well you're absolutely correct. Some of them are.


Edited by Tannedbaldhead on Saturday 20th December 09:49

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

131 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Erudite geezer said:
Read all about read all about it. ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30534235

You love your paedophilia threads on PistonHeads, your paedophile rings, you love your murders and your child abuse discussions.

Throw in some military establishments, law enforcement personnel and some kinky politicians too.....This has far more potential than those Asian abuse gangs medoesthinks.

Fill yer boots fellas.
A Sad fact of life is that a proportion of adults abuse children. I remember when Catholic priests were the bad boys. Statistically speaking although in the headlines they were pretty much offending at the same proportionate rate as most other institutions (religious and secular).

That being the case any group of people one wants to highlight as a shower of paedos and a quick trawl of the net will produce a huge body of anecdotal evidence that they're at it. Take you pick. Whatever suits your own agenda and you have your target group to prove your point that the people you don't like, who aren't like you are as bad as you always suspected: Catholic Priests, Protestant Ministers, Muslim Imams, Atheists, Blacks, Whites, Asians, Scoutmasters, those working in social care, charity workers for organisations such as Bernardos, Police Offices, those with criminal records. Soldiers, State School Teachers, Public Scool Teachers, Native Britains, Immigrants, the rich and powerful, the poor and needy step parents and natural parents.

And if I've missed some group you've always suspected of being child abusers? Well you're absolutely correct. Some of them are.


Edited by Tannedbaldhead on Saturday 20th December 09:50

Derek Smith

45,512 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Erudite geezer said:
Read all about read all about it. ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30534235

You love your paedophilia threads on PistonHeads, your paedophile rings, you love your murders and your child abuse discussions.

Throw in some military establishments, law enforcement personnel and some kinky politicians too.....This has far more potential than those Asian abuse gangs medoesthinks.

Fill yer boots fellas.
What's your point? This appears to be the second thread you've started on the subject. Do you men 'we' when you say 'you'?


Derek Smith

45,512 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Tannedbaldhead said:
A Sad fact of life is that a proportion of adults abuse children. I remember when Catholic priests were the bad boys. Statistically speaking although in the headlines they were pretty much offending at the same proportionate rate as most other institutions (religious and secular).

That being the case any group of people one wants to highlight as a shower of paedos and a quick trawl of the net will produce a huge body of anecdotal evidence that they're at it. Take you pick. Whatever suits your own agenda and you have your target group to prove your point that the people you don't like, who aren't like you are as bad as you always suspected: Catholic Priests, Protestant Ministers, Muslim Imams, Atheists, Blacks, Whites, Asians, Scoutmasters, those working in social care, charity workers for organisations such as Bernardos, Police Offices, those with criminal records. Soldiers, State School Teachers, Public Scool Teachers, Native Britain, Immigrants, the rich and powerful, the poor and needy step parents and natural parents.

And if I've missed some group you've always suspected of being child abusers? Well you're absolutely correct. Some of them are.
I fail to get your point. It is not news that a proportion of the public would like to abuse children and that those in positions of authority, power and privilege find it easier to do so than those without such protection. I'm not sure where your statistics come from with regards the catholic priests. However, I thought that the scandal involved the fact that they were protected by their bishops, that the police did nothing despite knowing it was going on and that the children were bullied and threatened, so stopping them complaining.

The benefit of exposing this is, hopefully, that checks can be put into place to reduce the risk of such things happening again and that those who are being abused will have more confidence firstly of being believed and secondly, of the person being prosecuted and thereby ceasing their offending.


Erudite geezer

Original Poster:

576 posts

120 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Derek Smith said:
What's your point? This appears to be the second thread you've started on the subject. Do you men 'we' when you say 'you'?
Wasn't aware there was a quota on number of threads one could initiate? Perchance Sir could kindly point me in the direction of any relevant directives?

Besides, I trust I have your agreement that this news development is mahoosive.

And hence of great importance to the PistonHeads illuminati.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Erudite geezer said:
Derek Smith said:
What's your point? This appears to be the second thread you've started on the subject. Do you men 'we' when you say 'you'?
Wasn't aware there was a quota on number of threads one could initiate? Perchance Sir could kindly point me in the direction of any relevant directives?

Besides, I trust I have your agreement that this news development is mahoosive.

And hence of great importance to the PistonHeads illuminati.
So where's your lofty tower round here, then, oh superior one?

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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I think this deserves a thread of it's own anyway, if and when anything does come out is a different matter.

plus I'm banned from the Jimmy Savile thread

Edited by MarshPhantom on Thursday 18th December 22:58

Atmospheric

5,305 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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So...was the Paedo finder appointment made then?

Or did they go with Optimus Prime in the end?

Bedford Rascal

29,469 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Really weird. I'm not suggesting it isn't terrible if true, but how does this end up happening? Is there a correlation between lots of power and a readiness to abuse children?

Just can't imagine how these people get together and share their hideous choice of perversion?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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If this involves the Elm Guest House, I can think of someone who's going to go very quiet very quickly...

Or to South America...smile

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

131 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Derek Smith said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
A Sad fact of life is that a proportion of adults abuse children. I remember when Catholic priests were the bad boys. Statistically speaking although in the headlines they were pretty much offending at the same proportionate rate as most other institutions (religious and secular).

That being the case any group of people one wants to highlight as a shower of paedos and a quick trawl of the net will produce a huge body of anecdotal evidence that they're at it. Take you pick. Whatever suits your own agenda and you have your target group to prove your point that the people you don't like, who aren't like you are as bad as you always suspected: Catholic Priests, Protestant Ministers, Muslim Imams, Atheists, Blacks, Whites, Asians, Scoutmasters, those working in social care, charity workers for organisations such as Bernardos, Police Offices, those with criminal records. Soldiers, State School Teachers, Public Scool Teachers, Native Britain, Immigrants, the rich and powerful, the poor and needy step parents and natural parents.

And if I've missed some group you've always suspected of being child abusers? Well you're absolutely correct. Some of them are.
I fail to get your point. It is not news that a proportion of the public would like to abuse children and that those in positions of authority, power and privilege find it easier to do so than those without such protection. I'm not sure where your statistics come from with regards the catholic priests. However, I thought that the scandal involved the fact that they were protected by their bishops, that the police did nothing despite knowing it was going on and that the children were bullied and threatened, so stopping them complaining.

The benefit of exposing this is, hopefully, that checks can be put into place to reduce the risk of such things happening again and that those who are being abused will have more confidence firstly of being believed and secondly, of the person being prosecuted and thereby ceasing their offending.

I agree with everything you say Derek. What disgusted me about the abuse within the Catholic church was the top down, very deliberate, systematic, covering up and protecting of the institution. I think much the same is going to be revealed in this case.

I do think the exposure of abuse is newsworthy and worthwhile. My personal gripe comes from originating from Northern Ireland and seeing abuse exposure as sectarian point scoring. I was sickened with the whole "my side isn't as bad as your side" point scoring with one side pointing out the abuse scandal within the Catholic Church the other noting the establishment along with promenent loyalist politicions and paramilitaries abusing boys at Kincora.

My post was a dig at posters on PH who will take a group of individuals within a community who abuse and use that behaviour to attack the community in general. The reaction to the Muslim taxi drivers with the carehome girls is a good example. The UKIPpy types loved it. The liberal types will use the oncoming scandal mentioned by the OP as some form of rebuttal.

To me I see the NI senario all over again.




Edited by Tannedbaldhead on Saturday 20th December 09:52

jdw100

4,067 posts

163 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Atmospheric said:
So...was the Paedo finder appointment made then?

Or did they go with Optimus Prime in the end?
I think I read they appointed Cliff Richard..or was it Phil Collins..or David Jason...or the ghost of Jimmy Saville?


Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Bedford Rascal said:
Really weird. I'm not suggesting it isn't terrible if true, but how does this end up happening? Is there a correlation between lots of power and a readiness to abuse children?

Just can't imagine how these people get together and share their hideous choice of perversion?
You mean people with a common purpose?

It is easy to forget now, but there were some who were on the fringes of sexual equality as we now know it who also took the stance that laws relating the the age of consent were wrong too.

ETA the OP is not 'news' - I'd posted this from BBC in the other thread earlier in the week: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by Digga on Friday 19th December 12:39

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Plenty more reading here on the subject.

www.exaronews.com/channel/uk

onyx39

11,109 posts

149 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Bedford Rascal said:
Really weird. I'm not suggesting it isn't terrible if true, but how does this end up happening? Is there a correlation between lots of power and a readiness to abuse children?

Just can't imagine how these people get together and share their hideous choice of perversion?
Perhaps these people do this because they are powerful / untouchable ?
Isn't rape supposed to be (in some cases) a "power" thing?

Sgt Bilko

1,929 posts

214 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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