UK General Election 2015
Discussion
BlackLabel said:
Labour's Campaign co-ordinator Lucy Powell MP vs Andrew Neil.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02n0pk9
Their economic policy really is a mess. She starts off claiming that Labour will 'balance the books' yet then goes on to admit that they will increase borrowing.
We all knew that before the interview in fairness - totally useless, then they have the gall to try and point the finger at the coalition, you couldn't make it up.http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02n0pk9
Their economic policy really is a mess. She starts off claiming that Labour will 'balance the books' yet then goes on to admit that they will increase borrowing.
Axionknight said:
A fair slump down over the last couple of weeks for UKIP, Tories running a tad higher - post budget which many were receptive towards.
We need a scandal to really diddle someone,
It was always inevitable that some of the UKIP vote would return to the Tories (and to a lesser degree Labour) as the election nears. Back in October a Survation poll had them at 25% and now Ashcroft is polling them at 10%. I guess the actual figure come May will be somewhere in the middle.We need a scandal to really diddle someone,
Meanwhile....
independent.co.uk said:
General Election 2015: Ed Miliband gets into another row with business
Ed Miliband found himself embroiled in yet another row with business today after the leaders of Britain’s biggest firms complained about Labour quoting them in a full-page newspaper advert.
It was meant to be the day they wooed business leaders and highlighted the financial risks associated with David Cameron’s pledge to hold an in-out referendum on Britain’s membership of the European Union.
But the Labour leader came under fire after his party printed previous statements made by business leaders who had issued similar warnings about a “Brexit”.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-ed-miliband-gets-into-another-row-with-business-10143738.htmlEd Miliband found himself embroiled in yet another row with business today after the leaders of Britain’s biggest firms complained about Labour quoting them in a full-page newspaper advert.
It was meant to be the day they wooed business leaders and highlighted the financial risks associated with David Cameron’s pledge to hold an in-out referendum on Britain’s membership of the European Union.
But the Labour leader came under fire after his party printed previous statements made by business leaders who had issued similar warnings about a “Brexit”.
Scuffers said:
if you look at the BBC poll of poles, it's consistently ICM that's dragging the UKIP vote down...
if you go back to the Euro elections, according to ICM UKIP were only at 16% when the vote showed them at 26.6% (yes, I know that's not quite the same thing)
More recently also Ashcroft (10%), ComRes (12%) and Yougov (13%)if you go back to the Euro elections, according to ICM UKIP were only at 16% when the vote showed them at 26.6% (yes, I know that's not quite the same thing)
But just a weeks worth, so could be statistical anomalies
The odd thing about Ashcroft's is that Labour had maintained or improved their scores on all the individual questions but their apparent share of the vote had gone down!
hidetheelephants said:
I wouldn't worry too much; their energy policy as stated is based on 'energy tree' theory; England is a magic energy tree which will plug the gaps in what will be a piss poor supply from too many windmills and not much else once the nuclear plants at Hunterston and Torness close. There seems to be some movement to change that given the panic that Longannet's imminent closure has induced, but I'm not holding my breath.
re longannet closure . i think someone has made a big ,big mistake there. they also appear to be forgetting that the peterhead plant awarded a new contract has basically been mothballed for the best part of a year now aiui . there could well be significant problems getting it started back up, but i suppose it was in the right area as it is next to wee ecks constituency (the most euro sceptic in the north of scotland ,whodda thunk it ) . never mind,we will only need between 4 and 5000 windy mills running efficiently to cover the closure of longannet , i am sure another 20 000 can be thrown up in no time to cover the rest of the closures.Scuffers said:
exactly.
the only party with a logical energy policy are UKIP!
not being funny, but how unbelievable is that?
IMHO the problem with politics today is that none of our dear leaders these days have any common sense, none have ever held down a real job, none have a clue on any practical subject, all they know is how to debate and play politics (and some would argue that point too).
it does not take a rocket scientist to realise just how f**ked up energy, NHS, transport, immigration, etc polices are, yet week after week we get the same old irrelevant trash spouted at us.
what's more important? keeping the lights on and the country from going bust or winging on about breastfeeding and paying immigrants HIV treatment?
not to worry though,when the lights go out it will be a nice incentive to get with the "ever closer" union program ,well if we want supplied from the french nuke stations we will the only party with a logical energy policy are UKIP!
not being funny, but how unbelievable is that?
IMHO the problem with politics today is that none of our dear leaders these days have any common sense, none have ever held down a real job, none have a clue on any practical subject, all they know is how to debate and play politics (and some would argue that point too).
it does not take a rocket scientist to realise just how f**ked up energy, NHS, transport, immigration, etc polices are, yet week after week we get the same old irrelevant trash spouted at us.
what's more important? keeping the lights on and the country from going bust or winging on about breastfeeding and paying immigrants HIV treatment?
Greg66 said:
Isn't your local MP's voting record very largely dictated by his party's whips office?
So you're just voting negatively against a party and not positively for the candidate for whom you vote.
All a bit Mr Angry Student really. Is that the qualification for being one of the "select few on this thread"?
quite possibly,and another reason to vote them out .So you're just voting negatively against a party and not positively for the candidate for whom you vote.
All a bit Mr Angry Student really. Is that the qualification for being one of the "select few on this thread"?
You'd be surprised, gaining MPs is a hard business and a broad national support of circa 15% doesn't guarentee anything, it's better to have 10,000 voters in one constituency than 1,000 voters in ten seperate ones......
For what it's worth I can't see Carswell losing his seat, Reckless lost a fair size of his majority when he defected and stood for re-election, that could be interesting.
I think Farage will gain South Thanet though, but it'll be a close thing, it has always been a swing seat and attracting voters from both the current main players in the seat, blue and red, will be no easy business - a close call for sure.
For what it's worth I can't see Carswell losing his seat, Reckless lost a fair size of his majority when he defected and stood for re-election, that could be interesting.
I think Farage will gain South Thanet though, but it'll be a close thing, it has always been a swing seat and attracting voters from both the current main players in the seat, blue and red, will be no easy business - a close call for sure.
Axionknight said:
You'd be surprised, gaining MPs is a hard business and a broad national support of circa 15% doesn't guarentee anything, it's better to have 10,000 voters in one constituency than 1,000 voters in ten seperate ones......
For what it's worth I can't see Carswell losing his seat, Reckless lost a fair size of his majority when he defected and stood for re-election, that could be interesting.
I think Farage will gain South Thanet though, but it'll be a close thing, it has always been a swing seat and attracting voters from both the current main players in the seat, blue and red, will be no easy business - a close call for sure.
hear what your saying, but I think just those 3 are pretty much certainties (if there is such a thing!)For what it's worth I can't see Carswell losing his seat, Reckless lost a fair size of his majority when he defected and stood for re-election, that could be interesting.
I think Farage will gain South Thanet though, but it'll be a close thing, it has always been a swing seat and attracting voters from both the current main players in the seat, blue and red, will be no easy business - a close call for sure.
on the balance of probability, I would think the bottom line is 5 seats (Yarmouth and Grimsby look pretty solid), the next 15-20 are very much more questionable, but I think it's way too close/unpredictable to call.
Scuffers said:
Axionknight said:
You'd be surprised, gaining MPs is a hard business and a broad national support of circa 15% doesn't guarentee anything, it's better to have 10,000 voters in one constituency than 1,000 voters in ten seperate ones......
For what it's worth I can't see Carswell losing his seat, Reckless lost a fair size of his majority when he defected and stood for re-election, that could be interesting.
I think Farage will gain South Thanet though, but it'll be a close thing, it has always been a swing seat and attracting voters from both the current main players in the seat, blue and red, will be no easy business - a close call for sure.
hear what your saying, but I think just those 3 are pretty much certainties (if there is such a thing!)For what it's worth I can't see Carswell losing his seat, Reckless lost a fair size of his majority when he defected and stood for re-election, that could be interesting.
I think Farage will gain South Thanet though, but it'll be a close thing, it has always been a swing seat and attracting voters from both the current main players in the seat, blue and red, will be no easy business - a close call for sure.
on the balance of probability, I would think the bottom line is 5 seats (Yarmouth and Grimsby look pretty solid), the next 15-20 are very much more questionable, but I think it's way too close/unpredictable to call.
It depends who has the organisation and boots on the ground to get their vote out on the day. Labour is usually most effective in this respect. Certainly UKIP showed new techniques, for them, in Rochester. Be interesting to see if they can scale it up.
After the election it will all be in the wind until 2020. Could be a rriot depending upon what happens next parliament.
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