UK General Election 2015

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Camoradi

4,289 posts

256 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Scuffers said:
Watching the news coverage...

CMD saying it's either him or ED will be walking though the door of no.10.

It would be great if it were neither!

(I know, its a faint dream!)
A BBC reporter (Norman Smith) yesterday stated that "the only person (other than David Cameron) who can become prime minister is Ed Miliband" I know this will almost certainly turn out to be true, but there's nothing in the rules to say this and I don't think the BBC should be saying it.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Camoradi said:
A BBC reporter (Norman Smith) yesterday stated that "the only person (other than David Cameron) who can become prime minister is Ed Miliband" I know this will almost certainly turn out to be true, but there's nothing in the rules to say this and I don't think the BBC should be saying it.
that's what I was getting at (although your put it better!)

FiF

44,079 posts

251 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Guam said:
I re read Ashcrofts methodology not sure about the probity of allocating unsure of declined to answer to how they voted last time?
Would this not skew Ukip significantly to the downside on the 2010 results?
Also would it not tend to guarantee a result that favoured an outcome similar to last time out?

At t
I don't agree with Ashcroft's methodology in that respect.

But then looking back at Newark I called one of his fudge factors utter wishful thinking and the result turned out to be closer to his figures than mine. So what do I know? Maybe he was right and really had finger on the pulse, maybe it was a lucky guess. We all take credit for the wins on a good prediction.

I have a gut feeling that there are a lot of undeclared votes for UKIP, also that the number of undecideds is significantly understated in many polls.

Just increases the uncertainty factor.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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69 pages and it only kicked off yesterday smile


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Scuffers said:
Camoradi said:
A BBC reporter (Norman Smith) yesterday stated that "the only person (other than David Cameron) who can become prime minister is Ed Miliband" I know this will almost certainly turn out to be true, but there's nothing in the rules to say this and I don't think the BBC should be saying it.
that's what I was getting at (although your put it better!)
Who are the third, fourth and so on viable candidates for the post, and in what circumstances are they likely to get their hands on the keys to no 10?

GoneAnon

1,703 posts

152 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Imagine a situation where either of the two major candidates need the support of a smaller party or parties to take power and one of those smaller parties says they will do a deal ONLY if Dave/ED (delete according to taste) steps aside.

Dave/Ed then has to decide if party comes before self and hand over to a deputy to become PM.

Remember we mere mortals don't elect a PM, our elected represetatives do that on our behalf.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Leave to one side whether that has any real chance of coming about, who are the Labour and Conservative alternative leadership candidates?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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GoneAnon said:
Imagine a situation where either of the two major candidates need the support of a smaller party or parties to take power and one of those smaller parties says they will do a deal ONLY if Dave/ED (delete according to taste) steps aside.

Dave/Ed then has to decide if party comes before self and hand over to a deputy to become PM.

Remember we mere mortals don't elect a PM, our elected represetatives do that on our behalf.
Assuming Boris gets his seat, I would suggest he's in pole position, and I suspect farage would rather deal with him than CMD.

Labour's no.2 is less obvious, they are all spinless gobstes.

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Probably that Chuck Uganda or whatever his name is for labour.

Camoradi

4,289 posts

256 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Greg66 said:
Scuffers said:
Camoradi said:
A BBC reporter (Norman Smith) yesterday stated that "the only person (other than David Cameron) who can become prime minister is Ed Miliband" I know this will almost certainly turn out to be true, but there's nothing in the rules to say this and I don't think the BBC should be saying it.
that's what I was getting at (although your put it better!)
Who are the third, fourth and so on viable candidates for the post, and in what circumstances are they likely to get their hands on the keys to no 10?
In my opinion there are no others. I think I've already said that. But telling people it is a two way fight sounds to me like an effort to discourage voters from selecting any candidate who isn't Labour or Tory. I expect the Labour and Conservative parties to do this, but the BBC is supposed to be impartial (yeah I know smile)



McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Scuffers said:
Watching the news coverage...

CMD saying it's either him or ED will be walking though the door of no.10.

It would be great if it were neither!

(I know, its a faint dream!)
Salmond?


Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Have they still got that cat? Maybe we could vote for that.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Camoradi said:
Greg66 said:
Scuffers said:
Camoradi said:
A BBC reporter (Norman Smith) yesterday stated that "the only person (other than David Cameron) who can become prime minister is Ed Miliband" I know this will almost certainly turn out to be true, but there's nothing in the rules to say this and I don't think the BBC should be saying it.
that's what I was getting at (although your put it better!)
Who are the third, fourth and so on viable candidates for the post, and in what circumstances are they likely to get their hands on the keys to no 10?
In my opinion there are no others. I think I've already said that. But telling people it is a two way fight sounds to me like an effort to discourage voters from selecting any candidate who isn't Labour or Tory. I expect the Labour and Conservative parties to do this, but the BBC is supposed to be impartial (yeah I know smile)
When I heard them say this I thought precisely the same thing.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Esseesse said:
Camoradi said:
Greg66 said:
Scuffers said:
Camoradi said:
A BBC reporter (Norman Smith) yesterday stated that "the only person (other than David Cameron) who can become prime minister is Ed Miliband" I know this will almost certainly turn out to be true, but there's nothing in the rules to say this and I don't think the BBC should be saying it.
that's what I was getting at (although your put it better!)
Who are the third, fourth and so on viable candidates for the post, and in what circumstances are they likely to get their hands on the keys to no 10?
In my opinion there are no others. I think I've already said that. But telling people it is a two way fight sounds to me like an effort to discourage voters from selecting any candidate who isn't Labour or Tory. I expect the Labour and Conservative parties to do this, but the BBC is supposed to be impartial (yeah I know smile)
When I heard them say this I thought precisely the same thing.
I think that's a bit tinfoil-hat MSM conspiracy thinking, personally.

All he was saying is that no matter who you vote for, your vote one way or another will help or hinder one of those two get into No 10, and may affect the terms on which they can operate once there.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Private Eye's take on the election.


Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Asterix said:
Have they still got that cat? Maybe we could vote for that.
The lazy one, that couldn't do it's one single job?

Yeah it's still there, watching the rats go by.

wc98

10,391 posts

140 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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the only poll i would like to see is people handed a paper with the candidates name and party for the area polled on it and asked to put a cross in ,fold up and deposit in sealed box. then count hen back to office, would give a far truer reflection than face to face answers .

Ruskie

3,989 posts

200 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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If your a staunch Tory supporter the current polls must have you feeling a bit nervous about Labour getting back into power?

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Munter said:
that couldn't do it's one single job?
So it's a Labour cat?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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BlackLabel said:
Private Eye's take on the election.

rofl

Superb