UK General Election 2015
Discussion
So, from this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliba... Balls hasn't even figured out a plan for taxation yet and as a result is leaving the door wide open to drop the 40% rate, no doubt the 50% rate will be back too. fk him. I mean does anyone really trust this guy ?
The only other thing I saw today was the BBC broadcasting coverage from the Guardian about how this letter that the various business leaders isn't an endorsement of the Tories or their economic policies.
The only other thing I saw today was the BBC broadcasting coverage from the Guardian about how this letter that the various business leaders isn't an endorsement of the Tories or their economic policies.
guardian said:
Nick Clegg on course to lose seat at election, according to Lord Ashcroft poll
Nick Clegg is predicted to lose his seat of Sheffield Hallam in the latest batch of polls commissioned by Lord Ashcroft setting out the state of the race for votes in eight key Liberal Democrat battleground seats.
The poll shows Clegg trailing Labour by two points, but on Wednesday the Lib Dem leader said he believed he would win in May – partly because of his name recognition with the local electorate.
The data also shows that the Conservatives may not be campaigning hard in the seat, in a potential sign that the Tory high command would like to see Clegg returned. The Tory contact rate is the lowest of any of the eight seats surveyed by Ashcroft.
LinkNick Clegg is predicted to lose his seat of Sheffield Hallam in the latest batch of polls commissioned by Lord Ashcroft setting out the state of the race for votes in eight key Liberal Democrat battleground seats.
The poll shows Clegg trailing Labour by two points, but on Wednesday the Lib Dem leader said he believed he would win in May – partly because of his name recognition with the local electorate.
The data also shows that the Conservatives may not be campaigning hard in the seat, in a potential sign that the Tory high command would like to see Clegg returned. The Tory contact rate is the lowest of any of the eight seats surveyed by Ashcroft.
Axionknight said:
Superb, even if it is +1 for Labour!
Not so sure about that. As I am not a big fan of me having to pay more tax (NB: apparently Balls isn't ruling out lowering the 40p threshold to suck a bunch more people into that band), I'd rather like a Con-based next govt. If Clegg loses his seat, you can bet your bottom dollar that his successor will be greatly less keen than Clegg on another deal with the Tories, whether by formal coalition or informal support. Which basically leaves the Cons plus perhaps the DUP vs the rest, with no chance of forming a Govt. Greg66 said:
Not so sure about that. As I am not a big fan of me having to pay more tax (NB: apparently Balls isn't ruling out lowering the 40p threshold to suck a bunch more people into that band), I'd rather like a Con-based next govt. If Clegg loses his seat, you can bet your bottom dollar that his successor will be greatly less keen than Clegg on another deal with the Tories, whether by formal coalition or informal support. Which basically leaves the Cons plus perhaps the DUP vs the rest, with no chance of forming a Govt.
A fair point, but it's still worth a good laugh.Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"
Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.
Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.
So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.
Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.
Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.
So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.
rover 623gsi said:
Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"
Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.
Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.
So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.
I disagree, look what happened in the EU elections, the lib dem vote collapsed, I see no reason the trend will not continue. Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.
Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.
So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.
I think the Lib Dem problem is that nobody knows what they stand for. Nobody ever really did, but they were the protest vote. Now they are no longer a protest vote (there are other louder options), and still nobody knows what they stand for.
Even their political broadcast last night just said "we're the middle ground". Great but...so what <yawn>.
Even their political broadcast last night just said "we're the middle ground". Great but...so what <yawn>.
Guam said:
Oops looks like Millibands researchers dropped the ball on zero hours contracts!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3022239/Mi...
AH BUT he is going to give them the right to ask for a full contract after 12 weekshttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3022239/Mi...
I think the tory party should match this and improve on it
They should give workers the right to ask for a full contract and a free ferrari after14 minutes of standing outside any company
rover 623gsi said:
Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"
Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.
Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.
So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.
On the figures in today's FT prediction, the Conservatives would have the most seats (just), but would have fewer seats combined with the LibDems than Labour combined with the SNP. A formal coalition would trump an informal agreement between Labour and the SNP, but the unholy alliance would no doubt act as wreckers for five years, making it impossible for the coalition to govern.Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.
Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.
So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.
What a mess!
Guam said:
Zod said:
On the figures in today's FT prediction, the Conservatives would have the most seats (just), but would have fewer seats combined with the LibDems than Labour combined with the SNP. A formal coalition would trump an informal agreement between Labour and the SNP, but the unholy alliance would no doubt act as wreckers for five years, making it impossible for the coalition to govern.
What a mess!
In that case Dave should do what some of us suggested he do in this Parliament with the Lib DemsWhat a mess!
Go back to the people after the wreckers have begun
I am going to forecast a second election by Late 2016 if these predictions from the polls materialise into reality at the ballot box!
Guam said:
rover 623gsi said:
problem with that idea (another election) is that may well produce the same result
Perhaps but it would likely make people realise that the nation is paralysed and force them to make some difficult choices for a clear term for either party.Back to 2 party systems with lab con stichup?
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