UK General Election 2015

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Crafty_

13,248 posts

199 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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So, from this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliba... Balls hasn't even figured out a plan for taxation yet and as a result is leaving the door wide open to drop the 40% rate, no doubt the 50% rate will be back too. fk him. I mean does anyone really trust this guy ?

The only other thing I saw today was the BBC broadcasting coverage from the Guardian about how this letter that the various business leaders isn't an endorsement of the Tories or their economic policies.


hidetheelephants

23,738 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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thetapeworm said:
I bumped into Ed in a chip shop in the local area, he was buying some food for a team he was out door-knocking with - 2 bags of chips to share between 8 people.
Tight bd - 2 bags between 8? I bet even Gideon would get them a portion each.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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guardian said:
Nick Clegg on course to lose seat at election, according to Lord Ashcroft poll

Nick Clegg is predicted to lose his seat of Sheffield Hallam in the latest batch of polls commissioned by Lord Ashcroft setting out the state of the race for votes in eight key Liberal Democrat battleground seats.

The poll shows Clegg trailing Labour by two points, but on Wednesday the Lib Dem leader said he believed he would win in May – partly because of his name recognition with the local electorate.

The data also shows that the Conservatives may not be campaigning hard in the seat, in a potential sign that the Tory high command would like to see Clegg returned. The Tory contact rate is the lowest of any of the eight seats surveyed by Ashcroft.
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Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Superb, even if it is +1 for Labour!

Scuffers

20,887 posts

273 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Axionknight said:
Superb, even if it is +1 for Labour!
yup, just need to un-seat Millipede and Burcow next!

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Axionknight said:
Superb, even if it is +1 for Labour!
Not so sure about that. As I am not a big fan of me having to pay more tax (NB: apparently Balls isn't ruling out lowering the 40p threshold to suck a bunch more people into that band), I'd rather like a Con-based next govt. If Clegg loses his seat, you can bet your bottom dollar that his successor will be greatly less keen than Clegg on another deal with the Tories, whether by formal coalition or informal support. Which basically leaves the Cons plus perhaps the DUP vs the rest, with no chance of forming a Govt.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

120 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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hidetheelephants said:
Tight bd - 2 bags between 8? I bet even Gideon would get them a portion each.
He probably would....at a price - Double RRP.....lol!!!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Greg66 said:
Not so sure about that. As I am not a big fan of me having to pay more tax (NB: apparently Balls isn't ruling out lowering the 40p threshold to suck a bunch more people into that band), I'd rather like a Con-based next govt. If Clegg loses his seat, you can bet your bottom dollar that his successor will be greatly less keen than Clegg on another deal with the Tories, whether by formal coalition or informal support. Which basically leaves the Cons plus perhaps the DUP vs the rest, with no chance of forming a Govt.
A fair point, but it's still worth a good laugh.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"

Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.

Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.

So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.

PRTVR

7,072 posts

220 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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rover 623gsi said:
Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"

Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.

Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.

So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.
I disagree, look what happened in the EU elections, the lib dem vote collapsed, I see no reason the trend will not continue.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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PRTVR said:
I disagree, look what happened in the EU elections, the lib dem vote collapsed, I see no reason the trend will not continue.
I personally would be delighted if both Nick Clegg and Danny Alexander lost their seats.

Munter

31,319 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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I think the Lib Dem problem is that nobody knows what they stand for. Nobody ever really did, but they were the protest vote. Now they are no longer a protest vote (there are other louder options), and still nobody knows what they stand for.

Even their political broadcast last night just said "we're the middle ground". Great but...so what <yawn>.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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HonestIago said:
I personally would be delighted if both Nick Clegg and Danny Alexander lost their seats.
both whom will be replaced by labour and SNP


Way to go

What are the SNP promising?

Oh yeah 180 billion extra spending a year


rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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PRTVR said:
I disagree, look what happened in the EU elections, the lib dem vote collapsed, I see no reason the trend will not continue.
their national share of the vote will undoubtedly go down, but they will hold on to more seats than most people think - imho

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Guam said:
Oops looks like Millibands researchers dropped the ball on zero hours contracts! smile

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3022239/Mi...
AH BUT he is going to give them the right to ask for a full contract after 12 weeks


I think the tory party should match this and improve on it

They should give workers the right to ask for a full contract and a free ferrari after14 minutes of standing outside any company






Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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rover 623gsi said:
Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"

Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.

Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.

So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.
On the figures in today's FT prediction, the Conservatives would have the most seats (just), but would have fewer seats combined with the LibDems than Labour combined with the SNP. A formal coalition would trump an informal agreement between Labour and the SNP, but the unholy alliance would no doubt act as wreckers for five years, making it impossible for the coalition to govern.

What a mess!

Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Shame Her Maj can't tell them to all do one and take over - Phil for Foreign Secretary?

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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problem with that idea (another election) is that may well produce the same result

Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Guam said:
Zod said:
On the figures in today's FT prediction, the Conservatives would have the most seats (just), but would have fewer seats combined with the LibDems than Labour combined with the SNP. A formal coalition would trump an informal agreement between Labour and the SNP, but the unholy alliance would no doubt act as wreckers for five years, making it impossible for the coalition to govern.

What a mess!
In that case Dave should do what some of us suggested he do in this Parliament with the Lib Dems
Go back to the people after the wreckers have begun

I am going to forecast a second election by Late 2016 if these predictions from the polls materialise into reality at the ballot box!
Slight problem with that: he needs Parliament to vote for a dissolution, because of the ridiculous Fixed Term Parliaments Act that he and Clegg hastily and foolishly agreed upon in 2010. The wreckers can just vote against.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Guam said:
rover 623gsi said:
problem with that idea (another election) is that may well produce the same result
Perhaps but it would likely make people realise that the nation is paralysed and force them to make some difficult choices for a clear term for either party.
What do you mean either party?

Back to 2 party systems with lab con stichup?