UK General Election 2015

[BlackLabel]

And the Tories will be happy to see front pages like this:

[richardxjr]

l354uge said:

Really at a crossroads in my mind.

I really like the libdem MP we have and would like him to continue, but this seat could make the difference in the overall election and I really really dont want Labour to win the election, especially with an SNP alliance.

Eastbourne? If not it's a similar situation there. To my mind, Con and Lib will be part of another coalition, so you could safely vote for either. Or another non-lab pact party in fact.

[mrsdemon]

StevieBee said:

We're in this totally daft scenario where it's likely we'll have a Labour led government that less than a third of the public want sharing power with a party who's sole interest is focused on one part of the country at the expense of the others, whilst kicking out the lot that are seemingly doing a pretty good of sorting out an almighty mess inherited from the last government.

The world is looking at this and thinking "WTF?"

I really cannot understand how or why we have arrived at this position other than we have somehow grown a population of the terminally thick!

Can you imagine the state of the UK economy if it was overseenby Miliband, Balls, Sturgeon and Salmond. 😱
That is a VERY scary thought!

[Impasse]

What's the voter turnout going to be like in May? Record apathy? Record interest? Record Meh?

[anonymous-user]

Impasse said:

What's the voter turnout going to be like in May? Record apathy? Record interest? Record Meh?

I'm predicting record turnout from the older generations because the NHS and immigation are on the table
Record meh from the younger generations because they're disaffected and something like tuition fees aren't on the table. (A radio 1 survey showed only 49% of 18 to 24 yr olds said they were likely to vote I think)

[NicD]

cookie118 said:

Impasse said:

What's the voter turnout going to be like in May? Record apathy? Record interest? Record Meh?

I'm predicting record turnout from the older generations because the NHS and immigation are on the table
Record meh from the younger generations because they're disaffected and something like tuition fees aren't on the table. (A radio 1 survey showed only 49% of 18 to 24 yr olds said they were likely to vote I think)

plus record turnout in Scotland?

How will that all boil down, I wonder?

[anonymous-user]

NicD said:

cookie118 said:

Impasse said:

What's the voter turnout going to be like in May? Record apathy? Record interest? Record Meh?

I'm predicting record turnout from the older generations because the NHS and immigation are on the table
Record meh from the younger generations because they're disaffected and something like tuition fees aren't on the table. (A radio 1 survey showed only 49% of 18 to 24 yr olds said they were likely to vote I think)

plus record turnout in Scotland?

How will that all boil down, I wonder?

IMO:
Conservatives 'win' but not enough for a majority
Labour and SNP have more combined but only just
The number of UKIP and Lib Dem seats may be the deciding factor-if they can get enough to get the tories over labour/snp.

[McWigglebum4th]

Give it 6 to 12 months of a labour/SNP pact and the SNP will stab labour in the back to fk over the westminster old boys club

Another election

And we end up with a Tory leader with a spine


Look at how thatcher came to power

[4v6]

McWigglebum4th said:

Give it 6 to 12 months of a labour/SNP pact and the SNP will stab labour in the back to fk over the westminster old boys club

Another election

And we end up with a Tory leader with a spine


Look at how thatcher came to power

We dont want or need another tory "leader", nor for that matter any other leftyrighty upsy downsy poltical party telling us what to do.

The whole systems rotten from the very top to the very bottom and its this seesawing from right to left and back again thats keeping us all in a state of constant chaos.

All we really need is a system that properly works for the benefit of the british people, you tell me how any of the so called "leaders" have, can or would ever deliver that?

The answers simple, they cant and wont because it suits them to keep you and me where we are and them where they are via the use of smoke and mirrors, keeping up the pretence of caring, of them working for us and all the other associated stuff they use to keep you in the dark whilst they do just what they like.
They actually are the employees, but honestly, how often have they ever acted in the manner of one?

So no, not interested in tories, liberals or socialists, theyre an absolute thorn in the sides of all humanity and we need them not.

[Wombat3]

4v6 said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Give it 6 to 12 months of a labour/SNP pact and the SNP will stab labour in the back to fk over the westminster old boys club

Another election

And we end up with a Tory leader with a spine


Look at how thatcher came to power

We dont want or need another tory "leader", nor for that matter any other leftyrighty upsy downsy poltical party telling us what to do.

The whole systems rotten from the very top to the very bottom and its this seesawing from right to left and back again thats keeping us all in a state of constant chaos.

All we really need is a system that properly works for the benefit of the british people, you tell me how any of the so called "leaders" have, can or would ever deliver that?

The answers simple, they cant and wont because it suits them to keep you and me where we are and them where they are via the use of smoke and mirrors, keeping up the pretence of caring, of them working for us and all the other associated stuff they use to keep you in the dark whilst they do just what they like.
They actually are the employees, but honestly, how often have they ever acted in the manner of one?

So no, not interested in tories, liberals or socialists, theyre an absolute thorn in the sides of all humanity and we need them not.

...and in some kind of la-la land utopia we'd get a party come through that the whole country suddenly found itself in agreement with?

MOst of the rest of what you've said is tin-foil hat wearing nonsense.

Never happen - we are where we are because of a combination of polarised views and priorities and then unadulterated ignorance (on the part of most of the electorate who don't even seem to be able to comprehend that there is no such thing as "government money"), selfishness, dishonesty and a vast over-estimation of their own worth to society on the part of some sections thereof.

You can't please all the people all the time but the simple fact also remains that you can't go on living beyond your means to the extent that we do. We simply can't afford all the things we want to have.

So something has to give, what's your solution?


(All that said, we are a hell of a lot better off than people in many, many other countries around the world!)

[McWigglebum4th]

4v6 said:

All we really need is a system that properly works for the benefit of the british people,

RACIST

[4v6]

Wombat3 said:

...and in some kind of la-la land utopia we'd get a party come through that the whole country suddenly found itself in agreement with?

Youre so constrained by the box youre in that you only see "parties" as being able to provide governance.
Why do we need a "party" to run things for our benefit?
You cant tell me theres no better way?

Wombat3 said:

MOst of the rest of what you've said is tin-foil hat wearing nonsense.

Spoken like a true arrogant tory!
The fact is, none of whats going on now under the party system we currently have is any less nonsensical, you cant tell me that giving aid money to china and india is sensible/logical? Nor spending billions on combatting a fake climate issue? Or a multitude of other idiocies?
No its tin foil hat wearing nonsense, to quote a recent poster .

Wombat3 said:

Never happen - we are where we are because of a combination of polarised views and priorities and then unadulterated ignorance (on the part of most of the electorate who don't even seem to be able to comprehend that there is no such thing as "government money"), selfishness, dishonesty and a vast over-estimation of their own worth to society on the part of some sections thereof.

Until you bother to try a different way youve no idea if what you try will work, of course, such as you who view David Camerons bung hole as a sunlamp will never agree to try anything else ever. Closed minded you see.
The unadulterated ignorance you speak of is a direct result of politcal parties such as yours obscuring fact and providing fiction and distraction to these people you speak of and then you have the gall to blame them for being ignorant of whats really going on about them!
How can you know whats true or false when the entire party system is controlled by professional bullstters?

Wombat3 said:

You can't please all the people all the time but the simple fact also remains that you can't go on living beyond your means to the extent that we do. We simply can't afford all the things we want to have.

Maybe its time to remove money from the mix?
It seems to be a constant source of problems, trapping people into situations they cant afford, causing others to kill for it, creating greed and conflict wherever it lives.

Wombat3 said:

So something has to give, what's your solution?

Dont ask me, I only see whats wrong, my ideas on fixing things are tin foil hat nonsense to the likes of you.
Basically, i dont believe in lefts and rights, i just believe in whats best for us, so your tory pal with all the answers is never going to measure up.

Wombat3 said:

(All that said, we are a hell of a lot better off than people in many, many other countries around the world!)

Yeah i can agree there, but we could also be a hell of a lot better off too without the constant shift in political ideologies impacting on our lives.

[4v6]

McWigglebum4th said:

4v6 said:

All we really need is a system that properly works for the benefit of the british people,

RACIST

Put it away dirty child!

[anonymous-user]

4v6 said:

Until you bother to try a different way

Describe the different way that is going to achieve what you want, please.

[4v6]

Greg66 said:

4v6 said:

Until you bother to try a different way

Describe the different way that is going to achieve what you want, please.

I prempted this line already, it's not my place to offer solutions to dyed in the wool believers of tory labour or liberals but let's offer you a something anyways,: Doing something for nothing would be a start towards a change in attitudes.

I know that'll probably go against everything the party system preaches but think a little deeper on it.

[BlackLabel]

BlackLabel said:

Even Sturgeon thinks Ed is useless.

Nicola Sturgeon, the SNP leader, has privately said that she would "rather see" David Cameron win the general election because Ed Miliband is not “prime minister material”, a leaked memorandum seen by The Daily Telegraph has revealed.

This (potential non) story has caused a fair bit of controversy. Sturgeon has denied it and so has the French embassy. Yet the Telegraph have an actual copy of the memo. So who leaked it and did someone deliberately alter it?

http://news.sky.com/story/1458658/six-questions-ab...

[anonymous-user]

4v6 said:

I prempted this line already, it's not my place to offer solutions to dyed in the wool believers of tory labour or liberals but let's offer you a something anyways,: Doing something for nothing would be a start towards a change in attitudes.

I know that'll probably go against everything the party system preaches but think a little deeper on it.

Ah. The abolition of money.

That's been tried. In Star Trek. It seems to work ok. For 42 minutes at a time, at least. With the occasional two hour burst.

Nouveau nihilists and anarchists: form here as orderly a queue as you are able to, given your innate tendencies.

[Justayellowbadge]

There is something freeman of the land to that quackery.

[PRTVR]

BlackLabel said:

BlackLabel said:

Even Sturgeon thinks Ed is useless.

Nicola Sturgeon, the SNP leader, has privately said that she would "rather see" David Cameron win the general election because Ed Miliband is not “prime minister material”, a leaked memorandum seen by The Daily Telegraph has revealed.

This (potential non) story has caused a fair bit of controversy. Sturgeon has denied it and so has the French embassy. Yet the Telegraph have an actual copy of the memo. So who leaked it and did someone deliberately alter it?

http://news.sky.com/story/1458658/six-questions-ab...

Very strange, she is denying the content of the memo, but wants an inquiry into how it was leaked

[EskimoArapaho]

PRTVR said:

Very strange, she is denying the content of the memo, but wants an inquiry into how it was leaked

Not strange at all. She is denying the words attributed to her. And she wants to find out where the 'memo' came from (i.e. which organisation dreamed it up and passed it off as fact).

The Telegraph won't play ball. It's been stitched up, House-of-Cards stylee, and it would be too embarassing to admit that (see the end of Peirs debacle at The Mirror following the fake squaddie-Iraqi story).

(If you're still scratching your chin, you may have small animals in your beard.)