UK General Election 2015

[edh]

Scuffers said:

edh said:

No-one should work for free. Farage is paid as an EU MEP isn't he? They seem quite happy to admit they are milking these posts for as much as they can get.
Turning up and doing his job might be a start...

based on what?

Farage must do more hours a week than just about anybody I have ever seen, yet you claim he never turns up to work?

exactly what metrics are you using or did you just read that in the DM?

Don't read the Daily Mail.

~ 44% voting record AFAIK

[Vaud]

edh said:

Don't read the Daily Mail.

~ 44% voting record AFAIK

http://term7.votewatch.eu/en/nigel-farage.html

[Esseesse]

edh said:

Scuffers said:

edh said:

No-one should work for free. Farage is paid as an EU MEP isn't he? They seem quite happy to admit they are milking these posts for as much as they can get.
Turning up and doing his job might be a start...

based on what?

Farage must do more hours a week than just about anybody I have ever seen, yet you claim he never turns up to work?

exactly what metrics are you using or did you just read that in the DM?

Don't read the Daily Mail.

~ 44% voting record AFAIK

As someone who voted for UKIP in the EU elections, I'm happy for them to attend the EU parliament as little or often as they feel it necessary to help extract us from it. As it stands I know there is only so much they're able to do in the EU parliament when they're attending, and it's not a lot.

Pie in the sky I know, but if following one EU election the EU-sceptics across Europe manage to hold 50% of the available seats, I would hope they all turn up so they can block every piece of legislation trying to make it's way through.

[Bluebarge]

pingu393 said:

All I can say is "smoked salmon for breakfast". Can't remember that under Labour.

(£9.99/kg in Makro )

Bon Appetit
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-205547/S...

[Scuffers]

Vaud said:

edh said:

Don't read the Daily Mail.

~ 44% voting record AFAIK

http://term7.votewatch.eu/en/nigel-farage.html

so, people would be happier with him if he did sod all but sit in the chamber and vote on every issue (relevant or irrelevant) rather than actually get out and represent his electorate?

Out of interest, how many speeches has Farage made vs. other UK MEP's?

would you consider that a better measure?

How about how many miles he does a year?

Metrics are all well and good, but they tell you stuff all about what people actually do and if it's worthwhile.

[Vaud]

I think this is bad (GB):

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?id=uk.org.publ...

and this is good (PD):

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Philip_Dav...

I don't make a party political point above, just took too extremes of attendance.

Ultimately the constituents make the decision as to whether they feel represented, but as there is almost no way of getting shot of a poor performing MP outside of elections, there is a risk of people being disenfranchised for a 5 year period, which I think is wrong.

[edh]

Scuffers said:

so, people would be happier with him if he did sod all but sit in the chamber and vote on every issue (relevant or irrelevant) rather than actually get out and represent his electorate?

Out of interest, how many speeches has Farage made vs. other UK MEP's?

would you consider that a better measure?

How about how many miles he does a year?

Metrics are all well and good, but they tell you stuff all about what people actually do and if it's worthwhile.

Worthwhile? Can't think of a metric for a value judgement like that. Unless we all agree what is "worthwhile", which will never happen.

Don't see why he can't work at stopping or reforming some of the craziness of the EU.

[edh]

Guam said:

Too dangerous to do photo ops with Kids in schools now if you cant handle the truth!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gene...

was very funny apparently - although when they broadcast it on the evening news, they edited out the kid's second response

of course that's not UKIP policy is it - "get the foreigners out"

[BlackLabel]

edh said:

Guam said:

Too dangerous to do photo ops with Kids in schools now if you cant handle the truth!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gene...

was very funny apparently - although when they broadcast it on the evening news, they edited out the kid's second response

of course that's not UKIP policy is it - "get the foreigners out"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_26NfgQOZA


UKIP were not best pleased:

"A Ukip spokesman today claimed the boy had been brainwashed by the media.

He said: 'Sadly I suspect the child has been drinking in all the propaganda. This is the information that people are continually being told, but it's not true.

'I thought it was rather sad that he thinks that is what Ukip is for. But it is not a surprise because that is how we are portrayed in the media.'"

[edh]

Vaud said:

I think this is bad (GB):

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?id=uk.org.publ...

and this is good (PD):

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Philip_Dav...

I don't make a party political point above, just took too extremes of attendance.

Ultimately the constituents make the decision as to whether they feel represented, but as there is almost no way of getting shot of a poor performing MP outside of elections, there is a risk of people being disenfranchised for a 5 year period, which I think is wrong.

Dennis Skinner thinks it's a proper job, being an MP
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Dennis_Ski...

[anonymous-user]

Vaud said:

I think this is bad (GB):

Ultimately the constituents make the decision as to whether they feel represented, but as there is almost no way of getting shot of a poor performing MP outside of elections, there is a risk of people being disenfranchised for a 5 year period, which I think is wrong.

It is quite bizarre that, in almost any other walk of life, if you are doing a terrible job you quite rightly get told to walk by your employer.

[Vaud]

garyhun said:

It is quite bizarre that, in almost any other walk of life, if you are doing a terrible job you quite rightly get told to walk by your employer.

Not only that, but having been voted in, you can "cross the floor" and change allegiance and there is nothing voters can do.

[richardxjr]

Telephone polling

I'm on Telephone Preference Service, should I be getting calls or not? Several each day now, last week for the missus, now my turn.

[Scuffers]

edh said:

Worthwhile? Can't think of a metric for a value judgement like that. Unless we all agree what is "worthwhile", which will never happen.

Don't see why he can't work at stopping or reforming some of the craziness of the EU.

I know this is probably news to you, but the EU parliament has zero capability to do anything other than rubber-stamp stuff that comes from the EU commissioners.

Please enlighten us as to how Nigel could change anything as an MEP and leader of a group within the EU?

I would argue the best he can do is point out the glaring dishonesty and corruption within the EU at every opportunity, something he has a superb track record of doing (checkout Youtube)

[Welshbeef]

To the posters who said PPI and bank fines from the U.S. Nasty banks etc.

UK tax payer owns massive % of these banks so we are all paying for it yet those individuals who exploit it for their own benefit salt the cost to the nation

[condor]

Just listened to the Labour party broadcast. Jo Brand! that's a vote loser I'd have thought.

[Scuffers]

condor said:

Just listened to the Labour party broadcast. Jo Brand! that's a vote loser I'd have thought.

Somebody should remind the stupid fat cow it was labour that privatised more of the NHS than anybody before, along with their crippling pfi contracts.

[edh]

Scuffers said:

edh said:

Worthwhile? Can't think of a metric for a value judgement like that. Unless we all agree what is "worthwhile", which will never happen.

Don't see why he can't work at stopping or reforming some of the craziness of the EU.

I know this is probably news to you, but the EU parliament has zero capability to do anything other than rubber-stamp stuff that comes from the EU commissioners.

Please enlighten us as to how Nigel could change anything as an MEP and leader of a group within the EU?

I would argue the best he can do is point out the glaring dishonesty and corruption within the EU at every opportunity, something he has a superb track record of doing (checkout Youtube)

In that case he should do a Sinn Fein and refuse to take up his seat - surely that's the principled stance?

[Kaj91]

edh said:

In that case he should do a Sinn Fein and refuse to take up his seat - surely that's the principled stance?

Sinn Fein may end up taking their seats after the next election, they are anything but principled.

[l354uge]

I cant see anything happening apart from a Labour-SNP coalition.

I want to cry....