UK General Election 2015

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Boydie88 said:

Has anything been said in anyone's manifesto regarding cars and roads? A party that went some way to stop fking over the car owner may win a lot of votes yet I don't think I have seen any party comment on it.

Also, population. The greens and seemingly all the left want to heal the world, well what the fk happens when the world population continues to explode and to survive we need to consume more? No green supporter has ever came back to that argument, I'd love to hear that question answered by the fruit loops, but then I guess it would knock a few of the morons back into voting for labour.

Check out UKIP.

[MGJohn]

Boydie88 said:

Has anything been said in anyone's manifesto regarding cars and roads? A party that went some way to stop fking over the car owner may win a lot of votes yet I don't think I have seen any party comment on it.

Not seen it in black and white, but elsewhere I remember reading that part of the UKIP manifesto includes reinstating the rolling twenty five year VED exemption for cars. Something the Labour Government discontinued soon after they gained access to No.10 back in 1997.

Anyone confirm?

[Boydie88]

I know the kippers want to stop 'health tourism' as they put it, but locally, limiting immigration won't really stop our booming population. We're in a vicious circle of the poor popping out kids faster than rich and combined, it's faster than we are dying. This means more people in the 'poorer' population group which increases the 'rich v poor' gap that causes so many people's knickers to get in a twist. These will only ever vote labour, or green, through envy.

[Vaud]

dirkgently said:

The Webley?

Possibly.

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MGJohn said:

Boydie88 said:

Has anything been said in anyone's manifesto regarding cars and roads? A party that went some way to stop fking over the car owner may win a lot of votes yet I don't think I have seen any party comment on it.

Not seen it in black and white, but elsewhere I remember reading that part of the UKIP manifesto includes reinstating the rolling twenty five year VED exemption for cars. Something the Labour Government discontinued soon after they gained access to No.10 back in 1997.

Anyone confirm?

yup, in the manifesto, Page 37

UKIP said:

CARING FOR CLASSIC CARS
To help protect the enduring legacy of the motor industry and our classic and historic vehicles, UKIP will exempt vehicles over 25 years old from Vehicle Excise Duty.

few other relevant bits too:

UKIP said:

SPEED CAMERAS AND ROAD SAFETY
UKIP will only allow installation of speed cameras when they can be used as a deterrent at accident black spots, near schools and in residential areas where there are specific potential dangers. We will not permit speed cameras to be used as revenue-raisers for local authorities.

ENDING ROAD TOLLS
We will remove road tolls where possible and let existing contracts on running road tolls expire. Motorists are already taxed highly enough through fuel and vehicle taxes.

BIG BROTHER ‘PAY-AS-YOU-GO’ PLANS
UKIP opposes ‘pay-as-you-go’ road charging schemes and attempts to introduce them by stealth.

From October 2015, the EU will require all new cars to be fitted with the ‘eCall’ system. Ostensibly a road safety measure, this system tracks vehicles using GPS and reports back to a central database. This capability would enable introduction of a Europe-wide road pricing system, on a miles travelled basis, which the EU Transport Commissioner is keen to introduce. We will scrap mandatory fitments of eCall and allow owners who already have eCall installed to disable it on their vehicles.

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Boydie88 said:

I know the kippers want to stop 'health tourism' as they put it, but locally, limiting immigration won't really stop our booming population. We're in a vicious circle of the poor popping out kids faster than rich and combined, it's faster than we are dying. This means more people in the 'poorer' population group which increases the 'rich v poor' gap that causes so many people's knickers to get in a twist. These will only ever vote labour, or green, through envy.

it will certainly help..

currently, >26% UK births are to immigrants.

[MGJohn]

Boydie88 said:

I know the kippers want to stop 'health tourism' as they put it, but locally, limiting immigration won't really stop our booming population. We're in a vicious circle of the poor popping out kids faster than rich and combined, it's faster than we are dying. This means more people in the 'poorer' population group which increases the 'rich v poor' gap that causes so many people's knickers to get in a twist. These will only ever vote labour, or green, through envy.

Whether by design or simply with the best of intentions, Labour benefits decisions have cultivated the serial state supported broodmare breeding programme ... those that bother to vote will vote for which party I wonder.

Any party which introduces a breeding cap benefit will get my vote no matter what their colour.

Same with the Green issues worldwide. Excessive unsustainable breeding will lead to huge pressures worldwide.

Back when Geldof requested "Give us your fking money" for the starving, this household sent a few hundred quid. I was less clued up about stuff back then. Should I ever consider another donation, it will NOT be cash, but the same amount in effective contraceptives with easy to follow "how to" guidelines and why they should be used for the longer term overall benefit of the world and it's population.

Something the Green former Australian-ex-pat lady totally fails to comprehend and sadly, is unlikely ever to do so.

[NicD]

I was saying that twenty years ago, obvious as daylight, but here we are.

[MGJohn]

Scuffers said:

Boydie88 said:

I know the kippers want to stop 'health tourism' as they put it, but locally, limiting immigration won't really stop our booming population. We're in a vicious circle of the poor popping out kids faster than rich and combined, it's faster than we are dying. This means more people in the 'poorer' population group which increases the 'rich v poor' gap that causes so many people's knickers to get in a twist. These will only ever vote labour, or green, through envy.

it will certainly help..

currently, >26% UK births are to immigrants.

Currently and possibly set to worsen.

If my few minutes at Heathrow's Terminal 5 Arrivals recent experience is a reliable indicator of the true situation, gravid females waddling through the arrivals terminals are far from an inconsiderable number.

We've become the mugs of not just the EU, but, the bluddy planet. Human Nature being what it is, the numbers set to take advantage will rise and rise.

The attraction IS the UK's INTERNational Health Service. Of course, we're told they are Invoiced... but not that they pay.

Then again we're told we need more immigrants to fill the vacancies that for whatever reason, UK folks are unable to fill or not good enough. Those we train at taxpayers expense, then move to other countries to benefit those, not here. There's no end to the short sighted long term stupidity.

All very depressing and those we entrust to this Nation's well being are cushioned against those realities we have to face that they create...

[Boydie88]

MGJohn said:

Something the Green former Australian-ex-pat lady totally fails to comprehend and sadly, is unlikely ever to do so.

But sadly no one on the left seems to be able to figure this out. The greens contradict themselves. Either save humanity and fk the planet, or save the planet and fk humanity. However, they don't want to find a balance, they want humanity to thrive and the planet to return to a state it was before there were a billion of us let alone 7 billion and rapidly growing.

Why has no one put it to the tts on a tv debate, it would destroy them instantly.

Also, what are the green's policy regarding motoring? They constantly bleat about global warming but haven;t once mentioned, from what I've seen, what they'd do. I have a feeling it would involve royally fking everyone that uses a car.

[BlackLabel]

The recent polls.

[Boydie88]

I don't get how Labour can possibly go up. What undecided people see Ed Milliband and think, yes, that is a person that can govern our country. I was hoping once these tv debates started people would start to realise how backwards Labour and the other lefties are. Still, it looks to be the kick up the arse I need to get out of this place.

[chris watton]

As said before, the public sector is now huge, and has a voracious appetite for public funds, be it borrowed or from taxes, they don’t care – nor, crucially, does labour, I suspect…

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chris watton said:

As said before, the public sector is now huge, and has a voracious appetite for public funds, be it borrowed or from taxes, they don’t care – nor, crucially, does labour, I suspect…

and said public sector are never going to vote for a smaller public sector!

[BGARK]

My friend works as a criminal defence lawyer, he is voting labour and thinks they are a crock of sh!te. However they are the only party he can rely on to keep funding his firm through taxpayers paying for free defence for scumbags, including foreign criminals.

Edited by BGARK on Sunday 19th April 22:48

[Pan Pan Pan]

Scuffers said:

chris watton said:

As said before, the public sector is now huge, and has a voracious appetite for public funds, be it borrowed or from taxes, they don’t care – nor, crucially, does labour, I suspect…

and said public sector are never going to vote for a smaller public sector!

The problem is that the public sector, and those who have taken to living on benefits as a lifestyle choice quite simply do not care where the money they get comes from, only that they can get their hands on as much of it as possible.
A can work, but wont work benefits claimant, was asked if she felt guilty about taking money from those who worked, and paid the taxes. Her reply was `of course not, if they want to work and pay taxes, that is their choice!'

[MGJohn]

Scuffers said:

chris watton said:

As said before, the public sector is now huge, and has a voracious appetite for public funds, be it borrowed or from taxes, they don’t care – nor, crucially, does labour, I suspect…

and said public sector are never going to vote for a smaller public sector!

The Taxpayer will provide mindset.... and the money trees.

All sectors are agreed there must be cuts just as long as they do not affect them and theirs.

We're still doomed.

[Croutons]

Boydie88 said:

Has anything been said in anyone's manifesto regarding cars and roads? A party that went some way to stop fking over the car owner may win a lot of votes yet I don't think I have seen any party comment on it.

Also, population. The greens and seemingly all the left want to heal the world, well what the fk happens when the world population continues to explode and to survive we need to consume more? No green supporter has ever came back to that argument, I'd love to hear that question answered by the fruit loops, but then I guess it would knock a few of the morons back into voting for labour.

The green party thinks the correct population for the uk is 20 million....link in here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2...

[Boydie88]

Croutons said:

The green party thinks the correct population for the uk is 20 million....link in here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2...

At least they recognise the problem. Too bad every thing they say seems to involve encouraging people to pop out more kids with unlimited child benefit and extreme levels of foreign aid boosting the global population - so where do they actually stand?

Pretty sick and frankly disgusting thing to say, but if humanity is to continue, the weak and unsustainable populations need to die. It's how nature works.

[pingu393]

Boydie88 said:

At least they recognise the problem. Too bad every thing they say seems to involve encouraging people to pop out more kids with unlimited child benefit and extreme levels of foreign aid boosting the global population - so where do they actually stand?

Pretty sick and frankly disgusting thing to say, but if humanity is to continue, the weak and unsustainable populations need to die. It's how nature works.

Are the Libyan people traffickers to be congratulated? Death-rate in the Med since the start of the year has been about 3%.