UK General Election 2015
Discussion
Pan Pan Pan said:
Scuffers said:
chris watton said:
As said before, the public sector is now huge, and has a voracious appetite for public funds, be it borrowed or from taxes, they don’t care – nor, crucially, does labour, I suspect…
and said public sector are never going to vote for a smaller public sector!A can work, but wont work benefits claimant, was asked if she felt guilty about taking money from those who worked, and paid the taxes. Her reply was `of course not, if they want to work and pay taxes, that is their choice!'
I wonder if a party could gain a decisive advantage by pulling a new issue into the election this late with polling showing a split? There are a few out there but a nice little domestic issue like Police corruption could be just the ticket, people hate a bent copper and there have been numerous reports showing there is still a bit about. Most issues have been debated to death now but there are other topics out there.
Boydie88 said:
Croutons said:
The green party thinks the correct population for the uk is 20 million....link in here.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2...
At least they recognise the problem. Too bad every thing they say seems to involve encouraging people to pop out more kids with unlimited child benefit and extreme levels of foreign aid boosting the global population - so where do they actually stand? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2...
Pretty sick and frankly disgusting thing to say, but if humanity is to continue, the weak and unsustainable populations need to die. It's how nature works.
speedy_thrills said:
I wonder if a party could gain a decisive advantage by pulling a new issue into the election this late with polling showing a split? There are a few out there but a nice little domestic issue like Police corruption could be just the ticket, people hate a bent copper and there have been numerous reports showing there is still a bit about. Most issues have been debated to death now but there are other topics out there.
I am not sure any politician wants to talk about corruption as they don't have their own duck house in order. greygoose said:
speedy_thrills said:
I wonder if a party could gain a decisive advantage by pulling a new issue into the election this late with polling showing a split? There are a few out there but a nice little domestic issue like Police corruption could be just the ticket, people hate a bent copper and there have been numerous reports showing there is still a bit about. Most issues have been debated to death now but there are other topics out there.
I am not sure any politician wants to talk about corruption as they don't have their own duck house in order. Dr Jekyll said:
If Labour and SNP had an informal coalition in a hung parliament, but then Labour wanted to vote for Trident and the SNP wanted to vote against. Would the Tories vote with Labour for the sake of Trident or with the SNP for the sake of pissing off Labour?
They are committed to renewing the system so I'd say they'd vote in favour of it, without a doubt.Dr Jekyll said:
If Labour and SNP had an informal coalition in a hung parliament, but then Labour wanted to vote for Trident and the SNP wanted to vote against. Would the Tories vote with Labour for the sake of Trident or with the SNP for the sake of pissing off Labour?
Being radical hereReally going out on a limb
Crossing uncharted waters
Breaking new ground
How about
They vote for the best for the UK instead playing games
Or am i just being silly?
Tories have made it clear they would keep Trident.
Also, it makes no sense to refer to the public sector as one huge autonomous organisation which can be beaten with a stick when it is in fact hundreds of disparate departments, almost all of them with their own terms and conditions of employment, pay scales etc etc.
I think many in the Civil Service would like to see a smaller, leaner, more efficient Civil Service and would vote accordingly, its easy to identify where red tape can be cut to provide a better service, not least by having different Ts&Cs across departments, why should one department so fundamentally different to another be bound by the same conditions?. No one chooses to works in the Civil Service to get rich but ultimately, there are some jobs only available in the Public Sector and some very bright people doing them.
Also, it makes no sense to refer to the public sector as one huge autonomous organisation which can be beaten with a stick when it is in fact hundreds of disparate departments, almost all of them with their own terms and conditions of employment, pay scales etc etc.
I think many in the Civil Service would like to see a smaller, leaner, more efficient Civil Service and would vote accordingly, its easy to identify where red tape can be cut to provide a better service, not least by having different Ts&Cs across departments, why should one department so fundamentally different to another be bound by the same conditions?. No one chooses to works in the Civil Service to get rich but ultimately, there are some jobs only available in the Public Sector and some very bright people doing them.
McWigglebum4th said:
Dr Jekyll said:
If Labour and SNP had an informal coalition in a hung parliament, but then Labour wanted to vote for Trident and the SNP wanted to vote against. Would the Tories vote with Labour for the sake of Trident or with the SNP for the sake of pissing off Labour?
Being radical hereReally going out on a limb
Crossing uncharted waters
Breaking new ground
How about
They vote for the best for the UK instead playing games
Or am i just being silly?
Latest polls appear to show Labour ahead of the Tories by one seat (271) but still 55 short of the number required for a majority.
The Tories have had a really shocking campaign - mention £12bn of cuts but then refuse to say where they would fall, then promise £8bn of "surprise" NHS funding followed by a shares and HA stock giveaway; talk about a confused message....
looks like the post-election period will be a mess, with possibly another election called in short order.
The Tories have had a really shocking campaign - mention £12bn of cuts but then refuse to say where they would fall, then promise £8bn of "surprise" NHS funding followed by a shares and HA stock giveaway; talk about a confused message....
looks like the post-election period will be a mess, with possibly another election called in short order.
scary stuff is it not?
it's not unusual for Labour to look financially illiterate, but hell the Tories are not exactly looking great on this either!
couple that with the grand cries of end-austerity for just about every other party and you would never know we have a £1.6Tn debt and £100Bn+ deficit.
it's not unusual for Labour to look financially illiterate, but hell the Tories are not exactly looking great on this either!
couple that with the grand cries of end-austerity for just about every other party and you would never know we have a £1.6Tn debt and £100Bn+ deficit.
The things is given the nature of the Parliament in this country the SNP have just as much a right to form part of the Government as Labour or the Conservatives.
Seems to me that some people forget that Parliament is not just for England.
If it were down to me I'd move to a much clearer Federal structure within the UK, rather than the halfarsed thing we have at the moment. But then I would also bring in PR too.
Seems to me that some people forget that Parliament is not just for England.
If it were down to me I'd move to a much clearer Federal structure within the UK, rather than the halfarsed thing we have at the moment. But then I would also bring in PR too.
vonuber said:
The things is given the nature of the Parliament in this country the SNP have just as much a right to form part of the Government as Labour or the Conservatives.
Seems to me that some people forget that Parliament is not just for England.
Not sure it's forgotten, but then we can also remember that a waggly tail is not the whole dog by any means.Seems to me that some people forget that Parliament is not just for England.
Then we can also remember that the Scottish Parliament isn't just for England.
Asterix said:
Nick Grant said:
What are the odds on a Tory/Labour coallition?
Blimey, that would be an interesting conversation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_coalition
Vaud said:
It actually makes a lot on sense. They are probably the two parties most closely alligned in policies. We get a governement that 65%ish of people voted for, minority parties don't get to hold a golden ticket for anyone else. Between the two of them the compromises they would have to make would limit the amount of damage they could do. I'm all for it 
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