UK General Election 2015

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Nick Grant

5,410 posts

235 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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With the proviso the CMD gets the big chair wink

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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vonuber said:
The things is given the nature of the Parliament in this country the SNP have just as much a right to form part of the Government as Labour or the Conservatives.
Seems to me that some people forget that Parliament is not just for England.

If it were down to me I'd move to a much clearer Federal structure within the UK, rather than the halfarsed thing we have at the moment. But then I would also bring in PR too.
no one disputes the right of the scottish nasty party to form part of the government

What people despise about them is their politics of envy and mission number 1 of destroying what they control


pingu393

7,804 posts

205 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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The Tories are panicking. That's two blatant bribes that they have offered. Buy your HA home and buy cheap Lloyds shares.

We live in a marginal (Con/Lab) and I'm sure that Lab will win it because the Con vote will be split with UKIP.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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If a 'Grand Coalition' were to happen, I would expect 2020 to be even more interesting with the smaller non-coalition parties benefiting far more than previously predicted.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

149 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Started reading into a bit of the Green's manifesto regarding transport over lunch.

This stuff needs to be taken apart by the other lot.

"Motor vehicle drivers should be presumed liable for injuries to pedestrians and cyclists. If the casualty has contributed to the collision, compensation may be reduced, but not when the victim is a child, elderly (70+) or impaired."

So a 70 year old runs out into the road, it's instantly your fault and even if the person doesn't fall into those categories "compensation may be reduced if the casualty contributed to the collision". What the fk.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Nick Grant said:
What are the odds on a Tory/Labour coallition?
Nil. The threat from the minor parties isn't large enough; the two majors are ideologically closer to one or more of the minors than each other; and such a coalition would lose them each a chunk of their core support with no obvious replacement support.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Nick Grant said:
What are the odds on a Tory/Labour coallition?
It'd be worth it to see Nick Clegg's face. biggrin

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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5 years of Labour & SNP it's looking like. 322 seats combined currently, Guardian reckons that will be enough to secure a vote of confidence.

4 UKIP seats according to the latest predictions too.

Interesting times ahead, 2020 will certainly be a rollercoaster.

turbobloke

103,959 posts

260 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Halb said:
Nick Grant said:
What are the odds on a Tory/Labour coallition?
It'd be worth it to see Nick Clegg's face. biggrin
After he fails to get re-elected. biggrin

Well, we can hope.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Art0ir said:
5 years of Labour & SNP it's looking like.
Sell GBP!

Pan Pan Pan

9,915 posts

111 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Ruskie said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Scuffers said:
chris watton said:
As said before, the public sector is now huge, and has a voracious appetite for public funds, be it borrowed or from taxes, they don’t care – nor, crucially, does labour, I suspect…
and said public sector are never going to vote for a smaller public sector!
The problem is that the public sector, and those who have taken to living on benefits as a lifestyle choice quite simply do not care where the money they get comes from, only that they can get their hands on as much of it as possible.
A can work, but wont work benefits claimant, was asked if she felt guilty about taking money from those who worked, and paid the taxes. Her reply was `of course not, if they want to work and pay taxes, that is their choice!'
Am I reading that right? The public sector is at fault and is the problem? Benefit claimants and public sector works are equally to blame?

The public sector provide the services that the country requires as a whole to function, but they do not make anything, or provide services which others (especially other countries) will pay for (except perhaps the NHS. but then it would not be the NHS, but the International Health Service) So the public sector is almost entirely paid for from money raised in taxes, taken from the private sector which make things and provide services which others do want to buy.
As for the can work, but wont work benefits claimants, they are doubly bad for the country, because they not only want to take out of the system, but also do not want to contribute anything for the benefits they receive.
The public sector and benefits claimants do not appear to worry overmuch about `where' the money comes from, only that it comes.
And for the money to come for all the things we want, the NHS, schools, the benefits system, the police, the armed forces etc, FIRST we must have a sound economy, all those things we want can only come about in a country where they can be paid for (without running up vast debt)

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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turbobloke said:
After he fails to get re-elected. biggrin

Well, we can hope.
I doubt he will get reelected, he has, according to most opinion polls, lost like 25-30% of his vote share, pissing students off when they have a bloc vote in your area is a bad idea.

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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fblm said:
Art0ir said:
5 years of Labour & SNP it's looking like.
Sell GBP!
Reckon I'll buy my EUR for the Summer this week at least.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Ashcroft: CON 34%, LAB 30%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 13%, GRN 4%

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Art0ir said:
fblm said:
Art0ir said:
5 years of Labour & SNP it's looking like.
Sell GBP!
Reckon I'll buy my EUR for the Summer this week at least.
Trading Eurgbp is like juggling chainsaws. Even when you catch one right the other one ruins your day.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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NoNeed said:
Ashcroft: CON 34%, LAB 30%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 13%, GRN 4%
So, what do the PH massive think the poll number should be?

ICM have con 34% lab 32% UKIP 11% libd 10% green 5%


NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Scuffers said:
NoNeed said:
Ashcroft: CON 34%, LAB 30%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 13%, GRN 4%
So, what do the PH massive think the poll number should be?

ICM have con 34% lab 32% UKIP 11% libd 10% green 5%
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/

It does explain that it is still close when you factor in margin of error.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Art0ir said:
5 years of Labour & SNP it's looking like. 322 seats combined currently, Guardian reckons that will be enough to secure a vote of confidence.

4 UKIP seats according to the latest predictions too.

Interesting times ahead, 2020 will certainly be a rollercoaster.
2020

With the back stabbing assholes in the SNP i doubt if it would last until the 20th of June

loafer123

15,443 posts

215 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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I don't think it is as simple as the combined number of seats. I think the party with the largest number gets to try to form a coalition, which could easily lead to a futher 5 years of Tory/LibDem coalition or even a minority government.

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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NoNeed said:
Ashcroft: CON 34%, LAB 30%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 13%, GRN 4%
Unfortunately votes do not make seats.