UK General Election 2015

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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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FiF said:
Esther McVey called at my old Mum in laws this afternoon.At 88 she likes to ask questions and she did just that and Esther was very polite and very honest in her replies.She asked her about this Salmon fella and as she was leaving after about 15mins Esther McVey commented to her colleague that my mum in law knew far more than most of them in parliament.
She already had her vote anyway and didn't need to spend time but I am very impressed that she spent time and genuinely engaged with her.
Plus one for Esther not someone who I had a lot of time for before.

ClaphamGT3

11,312 posts

244 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Esseesse said:
Greg66 said:
Esseesse said:
Greg66 said:
Esseesse said:
What about Lab/Con?
Zero chance, barring a world war breaking out on 8 May.
How about another round of financial instability?
Strange as it sounds, but I don't think that would be nearly calamitous enough.

You have to bear in mind the capacity for a *massive* loss of Labour voters if Labour were to get into bed with the Cons, and vice versa. The downside of a grand coalition for each partner is potentially huge.

In a financial meltdown each major party has (had) a completely different idea of how to deal with the problem. In the case of war, economic considerations drop down the list of priorities in favour of a single objective: defeat the enemy.
Indeed, I am aware of the potential massive loss of votes.

What happens if nobody wants to be in government on the terms that they have on offer? Can the Queen force something? Immediate 2nd GE?
Constitutionally, Cameron is Prime Minister and leading a Govt until he informs the Queen that he is no longer the party leader best able to form a Govt, at which point he resigns, his last act as PM being to advise the Queen to summon whoever he believes is best placed to form a Govt.

If he believes that no one can form a Govt capable of getting its business through the chamber, he advises her to call another election. Unlike the Dutch monarch who has far reaching powers to directly influence the formation of a coalition Govt, our monarch has very little leeway

Snozzwangler

12,230 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Just been called about (another) survey.

Populous (sp) this time.

Living in Cleggs constituency is a hoot!

JensenA

5,671 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Guam said:
Zod said:
Look, it's a bit of a rubbish policy, but the HAs will be compensated, so it's hardly confiscation. It's also a minor thing, unlike the Labour and SNP plans to borrow their way to another big bust.
Its no different to land grabs by countries like zimbabwe where the owners are paid "compensation"

Its redistribution of wealth is it not?

Are you really going to keep deluding yourself that there are no Marxist principles in this policy?
So I assume you regard Maggie Thatcher as a Marxist?

Croutons

9,898 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Can someone explain to me exactly what is green about cutting the term of copyright to 17 years?

I think the basis problem I have with the greens is that they could focus on what I (rightly or wrongly) consider to be"green", eg recycling, changing planning to encourage renewable use etc (ignoring arguments about it pls), yet they get a single MP and go billy big balls, deciding they need a policy about everything which seems largely to be driven by committee with no subject matter expertise, hence the contradictions and stupidity within the manifesto.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Guam said:
Why did she sell some privately owned property to someone using taxpayer funds
Or was she more likely to privatise state holdings, let me think about that for a moment
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So now we have Bus drivers , Plumbers and Brick layers all retiring owning their own homes with a nice privste pension to suppliment their state pension.What an Evil witch she was.

pingu393

7,830 posts

206 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
So now we have Bus drivers , Plumbers and Brick layers all retiring owning their own homes with a nice privste pension to suppliment their state pension.What an Evil witch she was.
They bought their 3 bed semis and have to pay Band B, C or D council tax and heat it. Do they see it as an asset they can downsize to a Band A from and pocket the difference, or do they blame the world for the cost of maintaining it?

I'll wager that most of them voted the same way after they became owner-occupiers, but the ones who downsized and pocketed the dosh will vote one way now, and the ones who are still in the same house will vote another.

Sway

26,330 posts

195 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Guam said:
Well I have voted ??
As I am out of the country on the 7th I got a postal vote and the deed is done
Now to wait and see what everyone else does on the day ??
The Labour party thanks you for the eleven votes you've cast for them...

wink

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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I've voted.

Conservative no question

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Guam said:
I didn't smile
Dave can get stuffed
Who did you vote for?

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Guam said:
I didn't smile
Dave can get stuffed
Who did you vote for?
I voted for Lutfur Rahman - I just don't know it yet....

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Welshbeef said:
I've voted.

Conservative no question
Did you? Or is this another one of your stories?

smile

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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chris watton said:
I voted for Lutfur Rahman - I just don't know it yet....
How many times?

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Axionknight said:
How many times?
I would imagine as many times it needs to garner the required amount of votes!

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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chris watton said:
I voted for Lutfur Rahman - I just don't know it yet....
me too and I am 250 miles away

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
me too and I am 250 miles away
I'm 150 miles away!

wc98

10,424 posts

141 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Zod said:
If you'd like me to be really pedantic, I'd say that government is indeed the principal funder of HAs. Most of their income comes from rents and the last estimate I saw was that 70%+ of that rent is paid through Housing Benefit.
you are the last person i thought would believe in a magic government money tree smile when you say government ,do you really mean tax payers ?

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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wc98 said:
Zod said:
If you'd like me to be really pedantic, I'd say that government is indeed the principal funder of HAs. Most of their income comes from rents and the last estimate I saw was that 70%+ of that rent is paid through Housing Benefit.
you are the last person i thought would believe in a magic government money tree smile when you say government ,do you really mean tax payers ?
Where does government get its money? From you and me.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Zod said:
Where does government get its money? From you and me.
I think we are going to need a money tree if the LAB/SNP get their hands on the country

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
I think we are going to need a money tree if the LAB/SNP get their hands on the country
Tree? We're going to need a fking forest!