UK General Election 2015
Discussion
MGJohn said:
Ed M. is running rings round BBC leftie journalist Andrew Marr right now.
Thanks for the report, I think!Marr Marr Red Sheep will have given Ed the routemap, it wouldn't surprise me if Wallace Gump's over-rehearsed lines were on autocue at various locations in the studio.
Did you say Boris is on with Ed? That should be more than Steve Davis interesting.
Sadly I think Labour will win due to the ignorance of reality that most of the population possess. It's easy for Labour to win.
A very simplistic apology is that of a Family with kids. Father Dave is saying "Look times are tough, we need to cut back for a few years, get the mortgage paid off, take holidays in England, and no more designer clothes for the time being, and you'll have to pay your own mobile phone bill, sorry Kids, but that's the way it is. And Mum Millicent is saying "We'll remortgage the house, you can have a new ipad and phone each, we'll pay the phone bills and were off to Disneyland next year".
Who will,the kids vote for?
A very simplistic apology is that of a Family with kids. Father Dave is saying "Look times are tough, we need to cut back for a few years, get the mortgage paid off, take holidays in England, and no more designer clothes for the time being, and you'll have to pay your own mobile phone bill, sorry Kids, but that's the way it is. And Mum Millicent is saying "We'll remortgage the house, you can have a new ipad and phone each, we'll pay the phone bills and were off to Disneyland next year".
Who will,the kids vote for?
JensenA said:
Sadly I think Labour will win due to the ignorance of reality that most of the population possess. It's easy for Labour to win.
A very simplistic apology is that of a Family with kids. Father Dave is saying "Look times are tough, we need to cut back for a few years, get the mortgage paid off, take holidays in England, and no more designer clothes for the time being, and you'll have to pay your own mobile phone bill, sorry Kids, but that's the way it is. And Mum Millicent is saying "We'll remortgage the house, you can have a new ipad and phone each, we'll pay the phone bills and were off to Disneyland next year".
Who will,the kids vote for?
Exactly. if Labour win we will go down the same route as Greece, eventually ending up as a basket case. The `rich' will have f**ked off somewhere else, taking their money (and businesses) where they wont be penalised for making money (because they can) A very simplistic apology is that of a Family with kids. Father Dave is saying "Look times are tough, we need to cut back for a few years, get the mortgage paid off, take holidays in England, and no more designer clothes for the time being, and you'll have to pay your own mobile phone bill, sorry Kids, but that's the way it is. And Mum Millicent is saying "We'll remortgage the house, you can have a new ipad and phone each, we'll pay the phone bills and were off to Disneyland next year".
Who will,the kids vote for?
The public sector will balloon. The can work, but wont work brigade will be in seventh heaven, and the poor saps in the middle, who hold the ridiculous idea of working for a living, will be taxed up to the eyeballs to pay for it all.
Pan Pan Pan said:
Exactly. if Labour win we will go down the same route as Greece, eventually ending up as a basket case. The `rich' will have f**ked off somewhere else, taking their money (and businesses) where they wont be penalised for making money (because they can)
The public sector will balloon. The can work, but wont work brigade will be in seventh heaven, and the poor saps in the middle, who hold the ridiculous idea of working for a living, will be taxed up to the eyeballs to pay for it all.
You sound like a positive chap. The public sector will balloon. The can work, but wont work brigade will be in seventh heaven, and the poor saps in the middle, who hold the ridiculous idea of working for a living, will be taxed up to the eyeballs to pay for it all.
flyingvisit said:
The left have imported millions of voters...
And that was the big plan all along.Scuffers said:
zygalski said:
What is just as likely is that protest voting Tories many of whom switched to UKIP at the locals/Euros vote Conservative in May.
I think 5 seats for UKIP in May will be pushing it.
OK, I'll stick my neck out...I think 5 seats for UKIP in May will be pushing it.
unless something dramatic happens in the next 11 days, I think they will get a dozen or so seats.
I just hope that UKIP supporters hold out come the 7th instead of listening to the 'Its a vote for Labour line'. Maybe Labour will get in, but hey, 5 years of s
t will show the floating electorate what a mistake they made and will re-think come 2020. Anyhow it all seems rather silly saying vote for us it keeps the other ones out. I want to see WHY you WANT me to vote for you rather than a lame excuse.
Also is it me or is anyone else finding this election dull, over played and boring?
JensenA said:
Sadly I think Labour will win due to the ignorance of reality that most of the population possess. It's easy for Labour to win.
A very simplistic apology is that of a Family with kids. Father Dave is saying "Look times are tough, we need to cut back for a few years, get the mortgage paid off, take holidays in England, and no more designer clothes for the time being, and you'll have to pay your own mobile phone bill, sorry Kids, but that's the way it is. And Mum Millicent is saying "We'll remortgage the house, you can have a new ipad and phone each, we'll pay the phone bills and were off to Disneyland next year".
Who will,the kids vote for?
Mother Millicent - We need to buy our son a wheelchair.A very simplistic apology is that of a Family with kids. Father Dave is saying "Look times are tough, we need to cut back for a few years, get the mortgage paid off, take holidays in England, and no more designer clothes for the time being, and you'll have to pay your own mobile phone bill, sorry Kids, but that's the way it is. And Mum Millicent is saying "We'll remortgage the house, you can have a new ipad and phone each, we'll pay the phone bills and were off to Disneyland next year".
Who will,the kids vote for?
Father Dave - Tough. We can't afford it.
Mother Millicent - You're just pretending to be broke so you don't have to give me any money.
Edited by MarshPhantom on Sunday 26th April 12:27
johnxjsc1985 said:
The Scots want out of the Union
No, the majority of us don't; HTH. It would be a good idea if Milipede or CMD or Kang and Kodos get a grip and finish the job of federalisation once they're esconced in No.10 on the 8th. Otherwise this st is going to be damaging our economic prospects for the forseeable future. Axionknight said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Exactly. if Labour win we will go down the same route as Greece, eventually ending up as a basket case. The `rich' will have f**ked off somewhere else, taking their money (and businesses) where they wont be penalised for making money (because they can)
The public sector will balloon. The can work, but wont work brigade will be in seventh heaven, and the poor saps in the middle, who hold the ridiculous idea of working for a living, will be taxed up to the eyeballs to pay for it all.
You sound like a positive chap. The public sector will balloon. The can work, but wont work brigade will be in seventh heaven, and the poor saps in the middle, who hold the ridiculous idea of working for a living, will be taxed up to the eyeballs to pay for it all.
Every time labour get into number 10, they trash the eoonomy (on which EVERYTHING else.
a decent NHS, schools, the public sector, the police, the armed forces etc depends)
The Callaghan government left the UK NOT working, with rubbish piled in the streets, and the laughing stock of the world, afflicted by what other countries referred to as the `English disease'
Then the Tories get in (who frankly are not much better) and spend years repairing the damage to the UK (and taking the flak for taking the steps needed to do this) they then hand over the biggest economic surplus to Tony Bliar, and Gormless Clown, who then proceed to trash the UK economy AGAIN (after raiding the pensions of millions of ordinary working people, selling off the UK`s gold reserves at an all time low price, and giving away (for nothing) the UK`s hard fought for EU rebate. and then they wonder where all the money has gone)
Then the Tories get in again, and try to repair the damage done by the Bliar / Gormless Clown labour government (who left a note saying `the money`s all gone) Again the Tories take the unpleasant measures needed to repair the economy, and again get the flak for doing so.
And so it goes on and on. The difference this time is that the UK is in a poorer financial position than it was 18 years ago. Interesting times lay ahead.
hidetheelephants said:
No, the majority of us don't; HTH. It would be a good idea if Milipede or CMD or Kang and Kodos get a grip and finish the job of federalisation once they're esconced in No.10 on the 8th. Otherwise this st is going to be damaging our economic prospects for the forseeable future.
The SNP is the party of an independant Scotland is it not. The polls suggest a huge majority will vote for them so how is that not a vote to leave the Union.t is going to be damaging our economic prospects for the forseeable future. I dont think for a minute that they will do anything but try to achieve this again if they form any sort of alliance with Labour.
The very mention of London or Westminster leaves them foaming at the mouth.
I don't get what has changed with the Scots they used to be acknowledged hard workers ,intelligent and "frugal" the opposite of Ed's mob Conservative with a small C.
h8tax said:
I hate to say it, but I think us PHers are deluding ourselves if we think that a Lab/SNP government will destroy the country to the point that they wont get in again for a generation.
Last time, Labour royally screwed the country - there was literally "no money left" - and we allegedly entered an age of austerity - but in reality it had very little effect on most peoples' daily lives. The trains still ran, you could see a doctor, you got paid, the wheels still turned. Liberal media hysteria about "cuts" is actually zealous over-reporting of very minor trimming. Because the general population don't (or won't) understand economics they think the money to pay for the benefits society and the public sector just 'appears'. No matter how bad the public finances get, this will always be the case.
All that will happen is that the core support for a Lab/SNP will harden because there will be more benefits, more immigration and more public sector. The PH demographic will have to pay for it.
The left wing can quite literally create as many votes as they want to. The (slightly) right wing cannot.
The only hope is for an independent Scotland which would then remove coalition support for Labour, and English hostility towards financial support for Scotland grows. The reality BTW is that even an independent Scotland would still require infinite financial support from England anyway (see Eire circa 2008) - it will make no difference to the economics, but it might clarify English politics. I write that as a fervent opponent of Scottish independence btw.
Last time, Labour royally screwed the country - there was literally "no money left" - and we allegedly entered an age of austerity - but in reality it had very little effect on most peoples' daily lives. The trains still ran, you could see a doctor, you got paid, the wheels still turned. Liberal media hysteria about "cuts" is actually zealous over-reporting of very minor trimming. Because the general population don't (or won't) understand economics they think the money to pay for the benefits society and the public sector just 'appears'. No matter how bad the public finances get, this will always be the case.
All that will happen is that the core support for a Lab/SNP will harden because there will be more benefits, more immigration and more public sector. The PH demographic will have to pay for it.
The left wing can quite literally create as many votes as they want to. The (slightly) right wing cannot.
The only hope is for an independent Scotland which would then remove coalition support for Labour, and English hostility towards financial support for Scotland grows. The reality BTW is that even an independent Scotland would still require infinite financial support from England anyway (see Eire circa 2008) - it will make no difference to the economics, but it might clarify English politics. I write that as a fervent opponent of Scottish independence btw.
Just look at Brown, one of the worst PMs we've ever had and he had the personality to match that record. Yet he still polled 29% in 2010 and the main opposition could only manage 36%. And now we have a Labour leader almost as bad as Michael Foot who is odds on to be PM after the election with about 33% of the vote.
Gary Glitter could lead Labour into a General Election and they'd still be guaranteed three-tenths of the votes nationally.
johnxjsc1985 said:
The SNP is the party of an independant Scotland is it not. The polls suggest a huge majority will vote for them so how is that not a vote to leave the Union.
I dont think for a minute that they will do anything but try to achieve this again if they form any sort of alliance with Labour.
The very mention of London or Westminster leaves them foaming at the mouth.
I don't get what has changed with the Scots they used to be acknowledged hard workers ,intelligent and "frugal" the opposite of Ed's mob Conservative with a small C.
No about 30% will vote for the SNPI dont think for a minute that they will do anything but try to achieve this again if they form any sort of alliance with Labour.
The very mention of London or Westminster leaves them foaming at the mouth.
I don't get what has changed with the Scots they used to be acknowledged hard workers ,intelligent and "frugal" the opposite of Ed's mob Conservative with a small C.
The rest won't vote or will vote for another party
From the 30% we will get 90% SNP MPs
And i am pretty certain the SNP will suddenly drop their desire for PR
contango said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Though lets be honest
This is the last election where Scotland will be part of the UK
YeeeSSSSSS!!!! This is the last election where Scotland will be part of the UK
This could be the best thing to come out of this election debacle.
As either the SNP are lying and everyone won't be equal or we are heading for communism
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