UK General Election 2015
Discussion
MarshPhantom said:
Tories are certainly nailing the economy - 0.3% growth in the last quarter.
In terms of appearance, and to remove any doubt, that's +0.3% not -0.3% as might be inferred from the form of expression used.News item on the above ONS info said:
The ONS said the economy was 2.4% larger than the same period a year earlier, meaning it remains the fastest growing economy in the G7.
Yes, the Conservative-led policy is nailing the economy,The worst results since 2012? And better than many. Go compare with Labour's worsening of the recession years when we had negative numbers thanks to tax-and-spunk between 2001 and 2007, not forgetting Labour's total abolition of boom and bust by genius Brown.
turbobloke said:
MarshPhantom said:
Tories are certainly nailing the economy - 0.3% growth in the last quarter.
In terms of appearance, and to remove any doubt, that's +0.3% not -0.3% as might be inferred from the form of expression used.News item on the above ONS info said:
The ONS said the economy was 2.4% larger than the same period a year earlier, meaning it remains the fastest growing economy in the G7.
Yes, the Conservative-led policy is nailing the economy,The worst results since 2012. And better than many. Go conpare with Labour's worsening of the recession years when we had negative numbers thanks to tax-and-spunk between 2001 and 2007, not forgetting Labour's total abolition of boom and bust by genius Brown.
Edited by IainT on Tuesday 28th April 11:55
GDP is closely linked to inflation when the economy isn't all screwy:
http://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/bl...
So it stands to reason that when inflation has dropped, growth will probably drop too, unless the economy is screwed.
A bit of growth in a zero inflation environment is still OK, IMHO.
http://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/bl...
So it stands to reason that when inflation has dropped, growth will probably drop too, unless the economy is screwed.
A bit of growth in a zero inflation environment is still OK, IMHO.
I don't trust economists non of them seem "independent".
What I do know is that House's have sold signs on them and when they do come on the market they are selling fairly quickly. I also see plenty of 15 plate Cars and both of these things tell me we are doing so much better than 5 years ago.
My brother is a huge Labour supporter and I told him if Labour get in and taxes rise and mortgages rise and petrol goes up he can tell his two sons who have mortgages and young families why that is.
What I do know is that House's have sold signs on them and when they do come on the market they are selling fairly quickly. I also see plenty of 15 plate Cars and both of these things tell me we are doing so much better than 5 years ago.
My brother is a huge Labour supporter and I told him if Labour get in and taxes rise and mortgages rise and petrol goes up he can tell his two sons who have mortgages and young families why that is.
IainT said:
I wonder if any of it is pre-election uncertainty is in play here? I wonder how badly the UK Economy is being hampered by continuing uncertainty over Scotland with the 'settled will of the Scottish people' appearing to be not-so-settled?
That is exactly what it is. People are delaying all manner of business decisions because of uncertainty over the election.Edited by IainT on Tuesday 28th April 11:55
johnxjsc1985 said:
I don't trust economists non of them seem "independent".
What I do know is that House's have sold signs on them and when they do come on the market they are selling fairly quickly. I also see plenty of 15 plate Cars and both of these things tell me we are doing so much better than 5 years ago.
My brother is a huge Labour supporter and I told him if Labour get in and taxes rise and mortgages rise and petrol goes up he can tell his two sons who have mortgages and young families why that is.
So he should. If necessary you can remind him What I do know is that House's have sold signs on them and when they do come on the market they are selling fairly quickly. I also see plenty of 15 plate Cars and both of these things tell me we are doing so much better than 5 years ago.
My brother is a huge Labour supporter and I told him if Labour get in and taxes rise and mortgages rise and petrol goes up he can tell his two sons who have mortgages and young families why that is.
The adverse impact of Labour on Labour voters - what's new?!
turbobloke said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I don't trust economists non of them seem "independent".
What I do know is that House's have sold signs on them and when they do come on the market they are selling fairly quickly. I also see plenty of 15 plate Cars and both of these things tell me we are doing so much better than 5 years ago.
My brother is a huge Labour supporter and I told him if Labour get in and taxes rise and mortgages rise and petrol goes up he can tell his two sons who have mortgages and young families why that is.
So he should. If necessary you can remind him What I do know is that House's have sold signs on them and when they do come on the market they are selling fairly quickly. I also see plenty of 15 plate Cars and both of these things tell me we are doing so much better than 5 years ago.
My brother is a huge Labour supporter and I told him if Labour get in and taxes rise and mortgages rise and petrol goes up he can tell his two sons who have mortgages and young families why that is.
The adverse impact of Labour on Labour voters - what's new?!
chris watton said:
Isn't the rise in 15 plate more to do with the widening availability of cheap lease deals? it seems, if the other forum is to be believed, that you can have a £30k car for as little as £250 per month!
Probably just so long as you don't actually drive it anywhere. Say you want to put 30,000 miles a year on it and the mood changes...But I have over the last year or so noticed many more "works vans" on the motorway. So I'm going to use that as my vehicular based barometer of performance.
pingu393 said:
Danny Alexander probably will lose, but that is Douglas Alexander's seat. Looking at the Ashcroft polls, I can't believe the swings from Con to Lab.
My first thought was "What Tory voter in their right mind would vote Labour now", but I think it says more about the swings to Con in 2010 than it does about the swings now.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/erewash/
In 2010, my vote didn't matter much. I voted for the party I thought had the best policies, even though that party had f
k-all chance of winning the seat. This time, I shall vote to try and stop the loonies taking over the asylum, even though I'd rather vote as I did in 2010.
My first thought was "What Tory voter in their right mind would vote Labour now", but I think it says more about the swings to Con in 2010 than it does about the swings now.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/erewash/
In 2010, my vote didn't matter much. I voted for the party I thought had the best policies, even though that party had f
k-all chance of winning the seat. This time, I shall vote to try and stop the loonies taking over the asylum, even though I'd rather vote as I did in 2010.confused_buyer said:
pingu393 said:
Danny Alexander probably will lose, but that is Douglas Alexander's seat. 
.Munter said:
chris watton said:
Isn't the rise in 15 plate more to do with the widening availability of cheap lease deals? it seems, if the other forum is to be believed, that you can have a £30k car for as little as £250 per month!
Probably just so long as you don't actually drive it anywhere. Say you want to put 30,000 miles a year on it and the mood changes...But I have over the last year or so noticed many more "works vans" on the motorway. So I'm going to use that as my vehicular based barometer of performance.
Getting a bit sidetracked but the difference between buying and leasing isn't really that significant from the point of view of the economy as a whole. They are still being produced, distributed and used, so total new registrations are a useful indicator of economic activity regardless of the ownership structure of the cars registered.
pingu393 said:
Munter said:
chris watton said:
Isn't the rise in 15 plate more to do with the widening availability of cheap lease deals? it seems, if the other forum is to be believed, that you can have a £30k car for as little as £250 per month!
Probably just so long as you don't actually drive it anywhere. Say you want to put 30,000 miles a year on it and the mood changes...But I have over the last year or so noticed many more "works vans" on the motorway. So I'm going to use that as my vehicular based barometer of performance. .
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it?
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