UK General Election 2015

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MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).

Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it? smile
More figures the Tories should be proud of.



IainT

10,040 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).

Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it? smile
More figures the Tories should be proud of.
  • rofl*
Given the deflationary pressures in inflation from the energy markets. Yes, a better track record than Liebour and it's lying supporters.

The economy is still growing faster than our peers even if it's slow. Better a slow recovery than rapid slide into an over-taxed oblivion.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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IainT said:
  • rofl*
Given the deflationary pressures in inflation from the energy markets. Yes, a better track record than Liebour and it's lying supporters.

The economy is still growing faster than our peers even if it's slow. Better a slow recovery than rapid slide into an over-taxed oblivion.
other stuff mortgages and bank business lending are doing well suggesting we are moving forward.

Art0ir

9,402 posts

171 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Deflation is not inherently bad.

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Art0ir said:
Deflation is not inherently bad.
It is if you want to show what a wonderful job you're doing of "running the economy" by tracking an increase in meaningless figures like GDP and consumer spending then deflation is terrible news.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
quotequote all
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).

Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it? smile
More figures the Tories should be proud of.
  • rofl*
Given the deflationary pressures in inflation from the energy markets. Yes, a better track record than Liebour and it's lying supporters.

The economy is still growing faster than our peers even if it's slow. Better a slow recovery than rapid slide into an over-taxed oblivion.
It's not a lie - just a bit early. Meanwhile personal debt is at record levels and the so called recovery isn't making it presence felt in terms of bulging tax receipts for the chancellor.


Wombat3

12,175 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).

Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it? smile
More figures the Tories should be proud of.
  • rofl*
Given the deflationary pressures in inflation from the energy markets. Yes, a better track record than Liebour and it's lying supporters.

The economy is still growing faster than our peers even if it's slow. Better a slow recovery than rapid slide into an over-taxed oblivion.
It's not a lie - just a bit early. Meanwhile personal debt is at record levels and the so called recovery isn't making it presence felt in terms of bulging tax receipts for the chancellor.
Did you expect it all to be fixed & "roses in the garden" again in just 5 years?

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
It's not a lie - just a bit early. Meanwhile personal debt is at record levels and the so called recovery isn't making it presence felt in terms of bulging tax receipts for the chancellor.
Good. The less he takes from me in tax the more I have in my pocket. Happy days.

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).

Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it? smile
More figures the Tories should be proud of.
  • rofl*
Given the deflationary pressures in inflation from the energy markets. Yes, a better track record than Liebour and it's lying supporters.

The economy is still growing faster than our peers even if it's slow. Better a slow recovery than rapid slide into an over-taxed oblivion.
It's not a lie - just a bit early. Meanwhile personal debt is at record levels and the so called recovery isn't making it presence felt in terms of bulging tax receipts for the chancellor.
Fastest growing economy not good enough?

Employment in the private sector and overall surging ahead?

Wages rising ahead of inflation?

How awful. Labour would show the way laugh

Get less tax, spend less tax....and overall. Sure, Labour won't have a clue when it comes to understanding that. Unfortunately neither does CMD.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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is this not racist?



(no non-black people in Hackney?)

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Scuffers said:
is this not racist?



(no non-black people in Hackney?)
Of course it is.

However, because it's not aimed at the stereotypical ethnic minorities, it's completely fine. There is no such thing as a racist act against a 'white' person in this country. smile

I think they should also think about putting rubbish collection high up the agenda.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Wombat3 said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).

Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it? smile
More figures the Tories should be proud of.
  • rofl*
Given the deflationary pressures in inflation from the energy markets. Yes, a better track record than Liebour and it's lying supporters.

The economy is still growing faster than our peers even if it's slow. Better a slow recovery than rapid slide into an over-taxed oblivion.
It's not a lie - just a bit early. Meanwhile personal debt is at record levels and the so called recovery isn't making it presence felt in terms of bulging tax receipts for the chancellor.
Did you expect it all to be fixed & "roses in the garden" again in just 5 years?
No. The point is the Tories make out the economy is doing great when it really isn't.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

142 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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I haven't heard them say its doing great, more that its heading in the right direction but more needs to be done.


Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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dazwalsh said:
I haven't heard them say its doing great, more that its heading in the right direction but more needs to be done.
...and that letting Balls into No.11 would be sub-optimal.

ralphrj

3,533 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
It's not a lie - just a bit early. Meanwhile personal debt is at record levels and the so called recovery isn't making it presence felt in terms of bulging tax receipts for the chancellor.
Total HMRC tax receipts

2009-10 £414.1bn
2010-11 £452.7bn up by 9.3%
2011-12 £471.3bn up by 4.1%
2012-13 £472.7bn up by 0.3%
2013-14 £492.6bn up by 4.2%
2014-15 £513.6bn up by 4.3%

Source: HMRC

technodup

7,584 posts

131 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Scuffers said:
is this not racist?



(no non-black people in Hackney?)
That's outrageous, UKIP got roundly shafted for an all white poster. But what's worse is 'putting black people first'. fk that. Any white MP saying the reverse would be slaughtered.

Odious cow has form for it. Andrew Neil should rip her a new ahole.

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
Wombat3 said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).

Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it? smile
More figures the Tories should be proud of.
  • rofl*
Given the deflationary pressures in inflation from the energy markets. Yes, a better track record than Liebour and it's lying supporters.

The economy is still growing faster than our peers even if it's slow. Better a slow recovery than rapid slide into an over-taxed oblivion.
It's not a lie - just a bit early. Meanwhile personal debt is at record levels and the so called recovery isn't making it presence felt in terms of bulging tax receipts for the chancellor.
Did you expect it all to be fixed & "roses in the garden" again in just 5 years?
No. The point is the Tories make out the economy is doing great when it really isn't.
? Nobody has said the economy is doing great.

In fact aren't the Lid Dems and Tories going out of their way to say the economy is very fragile and needs careful husbanding?

Ironically enough the only people saying the UK economy is doing great are the IMF!!!

jamiebae

6,245 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Just looking at a couple of Sussex constituencies, there are a lot of areas where UKIP are doing the Lib Dems or Labour a big favour

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/?s=lewes

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/hastings-rye/

Those two would both be painted blue if 2/3 of the UKIP vote switched to Conservative, but at the moment it looks like they will go to Labour and the Lib Dems.

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/?s=eastbourne

So Eastbourne looks like a safe Lib Dem seat (if such a thing still exists) but the swing to UKIP from the Torys is huge.

Although the suggestion is that the voting SNP gets a Labour government it appears the number of votes migrating from Conservative to UKIP is what will ultimately let Ed Milliband into number 10. UKIP won't win in most places (at best 5 or so seats) but where they are able to poll 10-20% it's enough to massively impact on the result.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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funkyrobot said:
Scuffers said:
is this not racist?



(no non-black people in Hackney?)
Of course it is.

However, because it's not aimed at the stereotypical ethnic minorities, it's completely fine. There is no such thing as a racist act against a 'white' person in this country. smile

I think they should also think about putting rubbish collection high up the agenda.
Race to the bottom

rambo19

2,743 posts

138 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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technodup said:
Scuffers said:
is this not racist?



(no non-black people in Hackney?)
That's outrageous, UKIP got roundly shafted for an all white poster. But what's worse is 'putting black people first'. fk that. Any white MP saying the reverse would be slaughtered.

Odious cow has form for it. Andrew Neil should rip her a new ahole.
One rule for them..................