UK General Election 2015
Discussion
MarshPhantom said:
Wombat3 said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
IainT said:
MarshPhantom said:
The economy is doing so well that we have deflation.
No we haven't. Jan 0.3%; Feb & March = 0%. Possible that April will report slight deflation primarily driven by low gas prices (A good thing for the economy!).Feel free to lie away though - normal for the left isn't it?
- rofl*
The economy is still growing faster than our peers even if it's slow. Better a slow recovery than rapid slide into an over-taxed oblivion.
Repeat the question - do you think it should all be fixed by now?
Guam said:
Just been listening to radio4
It appears a new ups is Miri poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If that's correct then it is all still up in the air and may well explain why the polls are all over the place
Don't recall levels that high previously this close to an election
This is proving to be more interesting by the day
Do polls actually make any difference?It appears a new ups is Miri poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If that's correct then it is all still up in the air and may well explain why the polls are all over the place
Don't recall levels that high previously this close to an election
This is proving to be more interesting by the day
Surely you pick the party that matches your aspirations for your family/the country not the most popular party according to the poll.
I expect conservative are regretting calling ukip supporters swivel eyed loons now they need the loons to vote conservative.
Guam said:
Just been listening to radio4
It appears a new ups is Miri poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If "undecided" means "I don't have a clue, will never have a clue and might as well close my eyes and pick with a pin", I'm calling that survey bks. It appears a new ups is Miri poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If it means "I think I probably know which way I will vote, but I haven't really settled on it yet and swing between can't-be-bothered and I-will-vote-for-X", I'd be willing to believe there were quite a few (although still nowhere like 40%.
Trouble is, it seems to have got to the stage of the polling companies competing with each other to get their surveys into the headlines, which really isn't good at all (and could of itself explain the spread amongst pollsters).
egor110 said:
I expect conservative are regretting calling ukip supporters swivel eyed loons now they need the loons to vote conservative.
YAAAAWN! Do put the Kipper victim card away!Said in 2006 I believe - and, probably not wholly inaccurate at the time either.
Its getting as repetitive/boring as the socialists that still blame Thatcher for all their ills.
Greg66 said:
Guam said:
Just been listening to radio4
It appears a new ups is Miri poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If "undecided" means "I don't have a clue, will never have a clue and might as well close my eyes and pick with a pin", I'm calling that survey bks. It appears a new ups is Miri poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If it means "I think I probably know which way I will vote, but I haven't really settled on it yet and swing between can't-be-bothered and I-will-vote-for-X", I'd be willing to believe there were quite a few (although still nowhere like 40%.
Trouble is, it seems to have got to the stage of the polling companies competing with each other to get their surveys into the headlines, which really isn't good at all (and could of itself explain the spread amongst pollsters).
Guam said:
Just been listening to radio4
It appears a new Ipsos Mori poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If that's correct then it is all still up in the air and may well explain why the polls are all over the place
Don't recall levels that high previously this close to an election
This is proving to be more interesting by the day
Would sir like his left testicle smashed with a hammer or his right testicle?It appears a new Ipsos Mori poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If that's correct then it is all still up in the air and may well explain why the polls are all over the place
Don't recall levels that high previously this close to an election
This is proving to be more interesting by the day
That is how most see the choices we have
Wombat3 said:
egor110 said:
I expect conservative are regretting calling ukip supporters swivel eyed loons now they need the loons to vote conservative.
YAAAAWN! Do put the Kipper victim card away!Said in 2006 I believe - and, probably not wholly inaccurate at the time either.
Its getting as repetitive/boring as the socialists that still blame Thatcher for all their ills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJDNsJEnWqk
Despite all the data telling us that life is st, does anyone have any real examples of how bad this new life is?
Is there anything that you would reasonably expect to be able to do that you can't?
I mean, life's so OK for me that I've just sent £25 to DEC Nepal Fund without being too concerned about what I could have spent it on.
Is there anything that you would reasonably expect to be able to do that you can't?
I mean, life's so OK for me that I've just sent £25 to DEC Nepal Fund without being too concerned about what I could have spent it on.
Edited by pingu393 on Tuesday 28th April 18:55
Today's IFS report on Con/Lab/Lib tax and benefit policies is particularly scathing:
IFS said:
As for what is to come, there are important areas of agreement between the main UK parties. There is apparently a huge amount of money to be extracted through a
clampdown on tax avoidance (mysteriously missed by all previous clampdowns). There is
yet more money to be extracted from those on very high incomes saving in a private
pension.
clampdown on tax avoidance (mysteriously missed by all previous clampdowns). There is
yet more money to be extracted from those on very high incomes saving in a private
pension.
IFS said:
...a shared lack of any attempt to paint a coherent strategy
for tax reform, a shared desire to impose further, often absurd, complications to the tax
system, and a shared lack of willingness to set out specific benefit measures which chime
with the parties’ rhetoric
for tax reform, a shared desire to impose further, often absurd, complications to the tax
system, and a shared lack of willingness to set out specific benefit measures which chime
with the parties’ rhetoric
IFS said:
...they share a lack of willingness to be clear
about the details, and an inability to resist the urge for piecemeal changes which make
the overall system less efficient and coherent.
http://www.ifs.org.uk/uploads/publications/bns/BN1...about the details, and an inability to resist the urge for piecemeal changes which make
the overall system less efficient and coherent.
Wombat3 said:
egor110 said:
I expect conservative are regretting calling ukip supporters swivel eyed loons now they need the loons to vote conservative.
YAAAAWN! Do put the Kipper victim card away!Said in 2006 I believe - and, probably not wholly inaccurate at the time either.
Its getting as repetitive/boring as the socialists that still blame Thatcher for all their ills.
I suggest you come off your high horse , people will vote for whoever they want and what you need to understand is that you have absolutely no control over it.
pingu393 said:
Despite all the data telling us that life is st, does anyone have any real examples of how bad this new life is?
Is there anything that you would reasonably expect to be able to do that you can't?
I mean, life's so OK for me that I've just sent £25 to DEC Nepal Fund without being too concerned about what I could have spent it on.
The way labour are banging on about it we are all living in the gutter. Is there anything that you would reasonably expect to be able to do that you can't?
I mean, life's so OK for me that I've just sent £25 to DEC Nepal Fund without being too concerned about what I could have spent it on.
Edited by pingu393 on Tuesday 28th April 18:55
Myself and family have trundled on nicely over the last 5 years, no major impact on standard of life.
Or maybe I dont fall under the umbella of "hard working families" because them poor bds sound really hard done by. I am tired of the same old tripe out of ed's mouth, but the cons dont really seem to be fighting back, which is baffling, because I don't think they have done that bad of a job.
pingu393 said:
Despite all the data telling us that life is st, does anyone have any real examples of how bad this new life is?
Is there anything that you would reasonably expect to be able to do that you can't?
I mean, life's so OK for me that I've just sent £25 to DEC Nepal Fund without being too concerned about what I could have spent it on.
I tend to agree with you, the last 5 years we've been over paying the mortgage due to the low rates, however i've had no need for the nhs in those 5 years, so maybe my opinion would differ if i had?Is there anything that you would reasonably expect to be able to do that you can't?
I mean, life's so OK for me that I've just sent £25 to DEC Nepal Fund without being too concerned about what I could have spent it on.
Edited by pingu393 on Tuesday 28th April 18:55
Who have you had knock the door.
We just had a labour rep/promoter knock the door, about the same age as me (30ish), I said who I was voting for (conservative) and he asked why before telling why it was a bad idea,I gave my best friendly 60 second speech as to why and why not labour expecting a bit of friendly debate but he just stood there in silence and went bright red as the smile dropped from his face,
What's the point in these plonkers coming around if they can't engage in friendly debate.
We just had a labour rep/promoter knock the door, about the same age as me (30ish), I said who I was voting for (conservative) and he asked why before telling why it was a bad idea,I gave my best friendly 60 second speech as to why and why not labour expecting a bit of friendly debate but he just stood there in silence and went bright red as the smile dropped from his face,
What's the point in these plonkers coming around if they can't engage in friendly debate.
egor110 said:
pingu393 said:
Despite all the data telling us that life is st, does anyone have any real examples of how bad this new life is?
Is there anything that you would reasonably expect to be able to do that you can't?
I mean, life's so OK for me that I've just sent £25 to DEC Nepal Fund without being too concerned about what I could have spent it on.
I tend to agree with you, the last 5 years we've been over paying the mortgage due to the low rates, however i've had no need for the nhs in those 5 years, so maybe my opinion would differ if i had?Is there anything that you would reasonably expect to be able to do that you can't?
I mean, life's so OK for me that I've just sent £25 to DEC Nepal Fund without being too concerned about what I could have spent it on.
Edited by pingu393 on Tuesday 28th April 18:55
pingu393 said:
He's going to be beaten by a 20 year old who hasn't even graduated yet - how humiliating. A couple of years ago when Labour were 10 points ahead in the polls (and the Scottish vote hadn't taken place yet) Douglas must have been counting down the days until he could be foreign secretary...and now this.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gene...
bazza white said:
Who have you had knock the door.
We just had a labour rep/promoter knock the door, about the same age as me (30ish), I said who I was voting for (conservative) and he asked why before telling why it was a bad idea,I gave my best friendly 60 second speech as to why and why not labour expecting a bit of friendly debate but he just stood there in silence and went bright red as the smile dropped from his face,
What's the point in these plonkers coming around if they can't engage in friendly debate.
I had similar. Conservative woman came round and I stated the reasons why I would not be voting Conservative this time despite always doing so before. She didn't even try to convince me, which was disappointing. Perhaps I should have tried to convince her why she shouldn't stand for the Conservatives, oh well, next time.We just had a labour rep/promoter knock the door, about the same age as me (30ish), I said who I was voting for (conservative) and he asked why before telling why it was a bad idea,I gave my best friendly 60 second speech as to why and why not labour expecting a bit of friendly debate but he just stood there in silence and went bright red as the smile dropped from his face,
What's the point in these plonkers coming around if they can't engage in friendly debate.
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