UK General Election 2015

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Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Guam said:
Oh come on its obviously a predictive text snafu with a smartphone
Is pedantry now to extend to an obvious system issue the poster would not have clocked at the time
How petty do we have to get in here?
They may take our lives but they'll never take our pettiness!

handpaper

1,296 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Guam said:
How petty do we have to get in here?
Ask lbc...

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Is it me or is David Cameron a bit conspicuous by his absence in this campaign? I'm not hearing him on the radio, I'm only seeing him on the TV sparingly in the odd factory visit etc...

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
In 2010 the Tories spent twice as much (£16m) on their campaign as Labour - don't know the figures this time round just yet.

www.ukpolitical.info/Expenditure.htm
And yet plenty of LibDem boards up round here, even a few Labour ones (we'll have a LibDem or Conservative result here), so obviously other parties CAN afford to do that sort of advertising.

BoRED S2upid

19,700 posts

240 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Not a single knock on the door here which is supposed to be a marginal seat whatever happened to walking the streets and talking to people face to face? All we get is loads of junk mail from them promising the earth.

wc98

10,401 posts

140 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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MGJohn said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Guam said:
Just been listening to radio4
It appears a new Ipsos Mori poll suggests 40% of voters are still undecided
If that's correct then it is all still up in the air and may well explain why the polls are all over the place
Don't recall levels that high previously this close to an election
This is proving to be more interesting by the day smile
Would sir like his left testicle smashed with a hammer or his right testicle?


That is how most see the choices we have
Ouch ... what about Madam ? smile

Human Nature being what it is, I suspect many of that 40% are reticent and decided long ago where their X will go come May 7th. Like so many button holed by media smoothies on the street, prefer not to reveal that and hide behind fake "indecision..

Mind you, I'm undecided about that ... smile
this bloke sums it up very well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLAfn_QOSI

JagLover

42,414 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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dazwalsh said:
The way labour are banging on about it we are all living in the gutter.
Depends who you are I guess.

Bought you house before the great house price inflation then any temporary freeze in pay would have been more than offset by lower mortgage rates.

The young face stagnant wages and rampant house price inflation. They often vote however for the party that has done most to bring this about through their open door immigration policy.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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wc98 said:
this bloke sums it up very well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLAfn_QOSI
absolutely!

that message should go out as a non-party political broadcast.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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JagLover said:
Depends who you are I guess.

Bought you house before the great house price inflation then any temporary freeze in pay would have been more than offset by lower mortgage rates.

The young face stagnant wages and rampant house price inflation. They often vote however for the party that has done most to bring this about through their open door immigration policy.
This varies a lot from area to area, but has been the case in my own experience.

I'm 27 and my girlfriend is 25, we have a nice, good sized family house (no kids yet yay) in a good area (albiet with a pretty big mortgage) - we bought it in March 2013, with the way prices have risen in our area there is simply no way we would be able to afford it now, if our circumstances had been identical to back then.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

243 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Tory largest party and the Lib Dems will cling on to enough seats for a continuation of the current coalition. It's the perfect deal for both, and for Cameron to get out of offering a referendum. Labour get slaughtered in Scotland and ditch Miliband. Ukip get 3 seats ( Farage wins one and livens up the Commons ) and the Greens add 1 more. George Galloway gets told to ps off out of Bradford and travels south to Tower Hamlets.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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The various political parties have certainly targeted the Folks in my household. This is about 50% of the stuff through our letterbox for the past month or so. Some of the smaller flyers came via Royal Mail and were addressed individually to each of the four folks living here. My elder son who is working away has registered to allow his younger brother a proxy vote for him. Here's just some of the stuff. A good few hours reading all told. :~


FiF

44,080 posts

251 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Mr_B said:
Tory largest party and the Lib Dems will cling on to enough seats for a continuation of the current coalition. It's the perfect deal for both, and for Cameron to get out of offering a referendum.
Well let's hold his feet to the flames on this if that is what he does. Because in 2014 on the Andrew Marr show he was quite clear.  The summary of it below is from ITV. If anyone doesn't think it's a fair analysis and is biased then I urge you to watch the video on the site.

If in coalition he reneges on this then clearly he will be a proven liar, some would say again.



ITV news said:
David Cameron has pledged an in-out referendum on Europe in 2017, and says he will not lead the country if he cannot guarantee to provide the vote.The prime minister's comments, made on BBC One's The Andrew Marr Show, suggest he would not lead a minority government should the Conservatives fail to secure a parliamentary majority at the 2015 General Election.
Link to news and video

confused_buyer

6,619 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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MGJohn said:
The various political parties have certainly targeted the Folks in my household. This is about 50% of the stuff through our letterbox for the past month or so. Some of the smaller flyers came via Royal Mail and were addressed individually to each of the four folks living here. My elder son who is working away has registered to allow his younger brother a proxy vote for him. Here's just some of the stuff. A good few hours reading all told. :~

One one of the "benefits" of living in a marginal. Gloucester is currently Conservative but if a few Tory votes go UKIP Labour have a good chance of taking it. (Although the latest Ashcroft poll predicts a Tory hold with UKIP on a fairly miserbale 12%).

loafer123

15,441 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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So if the choice is between a 5 year ConLib coalition without a referendum and a LabSNP government, you would choose the latter?!

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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loafer123 said:
So if the choice is between a 5 year ConLib coalition without a referendum and a LabSNP government, you would choose the latter?!
It matters not, all that matters is leaving the EU.

The Hypno-Toad

12,282 posts

205 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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The local Green candidate was clearly to ashamed/chicken/off saving whales to even post her leaflets through my door, she just left them in the staircase of our block.

So I put them in the re-cycling bin. It seemed the right thing to do.

Got some ridiculous bks on my Facebook page today about how some "Save The NHS Party," are running second in the polls in my constituency and could overturn the massive Conservative majority. And I thought the Greens were deluded. Still, I bet all the Unison/Unite members will be delighted to know where their dues are going...

thetapeworm

11,226 posts

239 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Have any of them hinted at a cut to fuel duty at all? Petrol prices seem to be creeping up again.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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thetapeworm said:
Have any of them hinted at a cut to fuel duty at all? Petrol prices seem to be creeping up again.
Nope!

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

178 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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thetapeworm said:
Have any of them hinted at a cut to fuel duty at all? Petrol prices seem to be creeping up again.
Given deficit reduction plans of all main parties, and Tory plans to freeze certain taxes, I suspect fuel duty would be one of the first taxes to go up, whoever wins.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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thetapeworm said:
Have any of them hinted at a cut to fuel duty at all? Petrol prices seem to be creeping up again.
Given the CO2 targets and the stated desire to modify behaviour, fuel duty seems to be one of the few perfectly fair taxes - use more, pay more.

Of course, if they genuinely wanted to modify behaviour they'd put a massive hike in fuel duty, but that would have massive negative impacts on the economy and the economy trumps green issues. The CO2 stuff is merely lip-service to placate the green lobby, there's no evidence via actions that the government actually believe it.

Note: I make no reference to my own thoughts on CO2, environMENTALism vs environmentalism, appropriate actions, etc... merely inference from the actions/rhetoric from the main parties.