UK General Election 2015

[johnxjsc1985]

Bluebarge said:

Given deficit reduction plans of all main parties, and Tory plans to freeze certain taxes, I suspect fuel duty would be one of the first taxes to go up, whoever wins.

I did hear Miliband mention Tabaco companies. Booze fuel and fags always the favourite.

[Bluebarge]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Bluebarge said:

Given deficit reduction plans of all main parties, and Tory plans to freeze certain taxes, I suspect fuel duty would be one of the first taxes to go up, whoever wins.

I did hear Miliband mention Tabaco companies. Booze fuel and fags always the favourite.

Easiest to collect! Which is why we still have Stamp Duty.

[Richyboy]

Its embarrassing when then come to your door and ask you to vote for them, especially labour. I was here when labour were last in power and they come to your door like its a new party with a bright future and good ideas (which is correct for them probably but not for the country lol.)

[MarshPhantom]

Mr_B said:

Tory largest party and the Lib Dems will cling on to enough seats for a continuation of the current coalition. It's the perfect deal for both, and for Cameron to get out of offering a referendum. Labour get slaughtered in Scotland and ditch Miliband. Ukip get 3 seats ( Farage wins one and livens up the Commons ) and the Greens add 1 more. George Galloway gets told to ps off out of Bradford and travels south to Tower Hamlets.

Not sure how the rise of SNP is Miliband's fault. Cameron and the Tories yes, so if we do have Labour/SNP coalition you know who will be to blame.

I doubt Cameron will fall on his sword somehow.

[MGJohn]

confused_buyer said:

MGJohn said:

The various political parties have certainly targeted the Folks in my household. This is about 50% of the stuff through our letterbox for the past month or so. Some of the smaller flyers came via Royal Mail and were addressed individually to each of the four folks living here. My elder son who is working away has registered to allow his younger brother a proxy vote for him. Here's just some of the stuff. A good few hours reading all told. :~

One one of the "benefits" of living in a marginal. Gloucester is currently Conservative but if a few Tory votes go UKIP Labour have a good chance of taking it. (Although the latest Ashcroft poll predicts a Tory hold with UKIP on a fairly miserbale 12%).

Bit like statin' the bleedin' then ... init .... Some Crystal Ball Ashcroft has there

If the system's broke.... why fix it.

Thus, we're still doomed...

[MGJohn]

Esseesse said:

loafer123 said:

So if the choice is between a 5 year ConLib coalition without a referendum and a LabSNP government, you would choose the latter?!

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It matters not, all that matters is leaving the EU.
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That above all is the core issue that is the huge EU Millstone round the neck of the Nation.

[Challo]

ewenm said:

thetapeworm said:

Have any of them hinted at a cut to fuel duty at all? Petrol prices seem to be creeping up again.

Given the CO2 targets and the stated desire to modify behaviour, fuel duty seems to be one of the few perfectly fair taxes - use more, pay more.

Of course, if they genuinely wanted to modify behaviour they'd put a massive hike in fuel duty, but that would have massive negative impacts on the economy and the economy trumps green issues. The CO2 stuff is merely lip-service to placate the green lobby, there's no evidence via actions that the government actually believe it.

Note: I make no reference to my own thoughts on CO2, environMENTALism vs environmentalism, appropriate actions, etc... merely inference from the actions/rhetoric from the main parties.

I would think they would need to up taxes on the motorist with 7 out of 10 new cars pay no road tax in the first year. Could be a black hole appearing http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-30...

[johnxjsc1985]

Challo said:

I would think they would need to up taxes on the motorist with 7 out of 10 new cars pay no road tax in the first year. Could be a black hole appearing http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-30...

50% new cars are Diesel and the EU is saying how bad they are so expect a Diesel tax.

[MGJohn]

ewenm said:

thetapeworm said:

Have any of them hinted at a cut to fuel duty at all? Petrol prices seem to be creeping up again.

Given the CO2 targets and the stated desire to modify behaviour, fuel duty seems to be one of the few perfectly fair taxes - use more, pay more.

Of course, if they genuinely wanted to modify behaviour they'd put a massive hike in fuel duty, but that would have massive negative impacts on the economy and the economy trumps green issues. The CO2 stuff is merely lip-service to placate the green lobby, there's no evidence via actions that the government actually believe it.

Note: I make no reference to my own thoughts on CO2, environMENTALism vs environmentalism, appropriate actions, etc... merely inference from the actions/rhetoric from the main parties.

However, since as early as the days of Beeching and his many cuts, so typical of the narrowly focused party of a millyon cuts, just about every decision made since be it building, employment jobs and their locations, privatisation, housing, supermarket and schools locations, finance, infra-structure you name it etc etc, has been designed and made with individual personal and freight road transport in mind.

For far too many years now, the red side of the house has used EU influence particularly with green issues in mind to increase various UK taxes for road users massively which has actually adversely impacted on those "working families" they're now always on about in so many ways. That includes many folks who never held a driving licence. Yes, Labour and to a certain extent even Desperate Dave's party are all going on about "working families" now.

Too bleedin' late!

Been watching various party spokesfolks* on the various TV channels today.... I don't believe it! I despair.

*


See what I did there ... .... Gender-less Spokes-folks ~ rather than spokesmen or spokeswomen. That's about the sum total of my contribution to the pc-riddled madness which now permeates our media and elsewhere. Priorities all A' C0CK.

No bluddy wonder I despair...

[BlackLabel]

Bluebarge said:

thetapeworm said:

Have any of them hinted at a cut to fuel duty at all? Petrol prices seem to be creeping up again.

Given deficit reduction plans of all main parties, and Tory plans to freeze certain taxes, I suspect fuel duty would be one of the first taxes to go up, whoever wins.

VED will go up too I think.

"The rise of the green car means that a record seven out of ten buyers now pay no road-tax on the first year of ownership of a brand new motor, even on family and luxury vehicles.

But a report has warned that while our cars are now less polluting, this will create a potential £1.3billion black hole for the Treasury - and may spell a car tax hike down the line."

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-30...

[Zod]

MarshPhantom said:

Mr_B said:

Tory largest party and the Lib Dems will cling on to enough seats for a continuation of the current coalition. It's the perfect deal for both, and for Cameron to get out of offering a referendum. Labour get slaughtered in Scotland and ditch Miliband. Ukip get 3 seats ( Farage wins one and livens up the Commons ) and the Greens add 1 more. George Galloway gets told to ps off out of Bradford and travels south to Tower Hamlets.

Not sure how the rise of SNP is Miliband's fault. Cameron and the Tories yes, so if we do have Labour/SNP coalition you know who will be to blame.

I doubt Cameron will fall on his sword somehow.

Are you for real? Nothing to do with the massive corruption of the Scottish Labour Party, of course.

Edited by Zod on Wednesday 29th April 13:45

[turbobloke]

BlackLabel said:

Bluebarge said:

thetapeworm said:

Have any of them hinted at a cut to fuel duty at all? Petrol prices seem to be creeping up again.

Given deficit reduction plans of all main parties, and Tory plans to freeze certain taxes, I suspect fuel duty would be one of the first taxes to go up, whoever wins.

VED will go up too I think.

"The rise of the green car means that a record seven out of ten buyers now pay no road-tax on the first year of ownership of a brand new motor, even on family and luxury vehicles.

But a report has warned that while our cars are now less polluting, this will create a potential £1.3billion black hole for the Treasury - and may spell a car tax hike down the line."

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-30...

It could be so, or they could spend less down the line.

[FiF]

turbobloke said:

It could be so, or they could spend less down the line.

Every straight man needs a comedian, or something along those lines.

Spend less? To most of the current crop of politicians that's like garlic and a cross to a vampire. See what I did there with the blood sucker connection?

[Mr_B]

MarshPhantom said:

Mr_B said:

Tory largest party and the Lib Dems will cling on to enough seats for a continuation of the current coalition. It's the perfect deal for both, and for Cameron to get out of offering a referendum. Labour get slaughtered in Scotland and ditch Miliband. Ukip get 3 seats ( Farage wins one and livens up the Commons ) and the Greens add 1 more. George Galloway gets told to ps off out of Bradford and travels south to Tower Hamlets.

Not sure how the rise of SNP is Miliband's fault. Cameron and the Tories yes, so if we do have Labour/SNP coalition you know who will be to blame.

I doubt Cameron will fall on his sword somehow.

I never said it was he fault. What you on about ?

[BlackLabel]

Farage and Clegg set to lose according to new Lord Ashcroft polls.

His poll also shows that 31% of 2010 Con voters will vote for Clegg.



http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/04/south-swindon...

[FiF]

BlackLabel said:

Farage and Clegg set to lose according to new Lord Ashcroft polls.

His poll also shows that 31% of 2010 Con voters will vote for Clegg.



http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/04/south-swindon...

I'm sorry but that Clegg snapshot. Comments like "set to lose"; on those figures?

Too close to call in reality isn't it?

Thanet South, where the gap is slightly wider, even Ashcroft says it can go either way.

It's complete bks comments like "set to lose" or similar that pisses people off and shows some either don't know what they are talking about or don't give a flying fart for anything other than spinning a message.

There's a huge ¯\__/¯ even in these seats that have been repeatedly polled, what the hell is happening out there in a wider sense?

Sorry to pick on you old chap, as you're not the only one reading too much into the polls. Really we need a smiley for PH which is a shrug for who the hell knows, cos I don't anymore.

[MGJohn]

BlackLabel said:

Farage and Clegg set to lose according to new Lord Ashcroft polls.

His poll also shows that 31% of 2010 Con voters will vote for Clegg.

Those "Ashcroft Polls" not worth a second glance. Credence all shot away. Questionable motives with some Pollsters always showing what those providing Polls want them to show. It's as though there's a competition to demonstrate ....

My Polls are more impressive than yours.

So, never mind the quality of accuracy, feel the width of this distortion of statistics.

If both Clegg and Farage "lose", then this sadly misguided Nation deserves what's coming to it.

[BlackLabel]

@Fif
@MGJohn

Fair points.

To his credit Ashcroft himself says that his polls are a snapshot and not a prediction.

[jagnet]

MGJohn said:

Those "Ashcroft Polls" not worth a second glance. Credence all shot away.

Aiui, in these polls the candidates weren't named. Whereas in a recent Survation poll that did name the candidates, Farage led by 9 points.

I think I've started developing poll blindness, mentally blocking them out like an webpage advertising banner.

Is there an adblock equivalent extension for Chrome that blocks polls?

[Scuffers]

the more it goes on, the more I think that UKIP stand a pretty good chance of 25% of the vote and a decent haul of seats...

the press are getting more desperate every hour now, ramping up the negative stories (still none of them have touched the Nope No Hope story of 291 (more now) dodgy candidates from liblabcons.

is Farage due on LBC this week? be a prime one to bring up!

well done whoever compiled the list, it's long overdue.