UK General Election 2015
Discussion
Axionknight said:
Ashcroft said:
Only 38% of Conservative voters and 25% of Labour supporters thought immigration was more likely to fall significantly under their own party.
Amazing how deluded such a large number of people are.http://ukpollingreport.co.uk said:
Tonight’s YouGov poll for the Sun has topline figures of CON 36%, LAB 34%, LDEM 5%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%. The unusual three point lead Tory yesterday clearly wasn’t a one off. I will urge all my usual caution, two polls in a row do not necessary make a trend. However, of the last seven YouGov polls they’ve now shown three Tory leads, three draws and one Labour lead so something may indeed be afoot.
As ever, keep watching the broader trend and see what the rest of the week brings. I can’t see any obvious reason for a big shift in support over the last few days, so if there is a change, it’s likely to be the slow drift in public support that’s difficult to be certain about rather than an obvious step-change.
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9274As ever, keep watching the broader trend and see what the rest of the week brings. I can’t see any obvious reason for a big shift in support over the last few days, so if there is a change, it’s likely to be the slow drift in public support that’s difficult to be certain about rather than an obvious step-change.
Esseesse said:
But the boundaries are skewed in favour of Labour anyway, so a marginal Conservative lead means what...
The SNP being more popular this time will make a slight difference however Labour could still return as the largest party even if they poll 2 or 3% less than the Tories nationally. The Lib Dems will also get many more seats than UKIP even if they poll less than them. We could have a situation where, according to the popular vote the Lib Dems as party 4 or worse still the SNP as party 5 prop up a government led by Labour, who polled less than the Tories.And whose fault is that? Millions of Conservative votes have gone missing in action over the last few elections and that is also shown in % share.
Janet Daley made a good point the other day that the problem the Conservatives have under Cameron, and for some time in reality, is that even though the public acknowledges the Cons may be most competent with the economy, they really really really find them unlikeable.
Add in a leader, Cameron, with absolutely no vision, hapless leadership and management, and there's no wonder about the situation.
If the opposition wasn't a comedy duo they'd be in opposition for a generation. A comedy duo who also deserve to be in opposition for two generations.
That's the problem. Public crying out for a visionary true leader for the nation. And it ain't the EU before anyone starts up that debate.
Janet Daley made a good point the other day that the problem the Conservatives have under Cameron, and for some time in reality, is that even though the public acknowledges the Cons may be most competent with the economy, they really really really find them unlikeable.
Add in a leader, Cameron, with absolutely no vision, hapless leadership and management, and there's no wonder about the situation.
If the opposition wasn't a comedy duo they'd be in opposition for a generation. A comedy duo who also deserve to be in opposition for two generations.
That's the problem. Public crying out for a visionary true leader for the nation. And it ain't the EU before anyone starts up that debate.
And by coincidence - remember the debacle of Brown selling off gold at rock bottom pices? It seems this govt are somewhat more competent (not hard I grant you)
The government announced overnight it had sold its stake in Eurostar. The stake is being bought by a Canadian pension fund and a UK asset manager, who will buy shares for £585m. Eurostar will also hand over £170m to redeem shares which guarantee a dividend. The government's stake was officially valued last year at £325m.
So they've sold it for twice the valuation of last year.
The government announced overnight it had sold its stake in Eurostar. The stake is being bought by a Canadian pension fund and a UK asset manager, who will buy shares for £585m. Eurostar will also hand over £170m to redeem shares which guarantee a dividend. The government's stake was officially valued last year at £325m.
So they've sold it for twice the valuation of last year.
JustAnotherLogin said:
And by coincidence - remember the debacle of Brown selling off gold at rock bottom pices? It seems this govt are somewhat more competent (not hard I grant you)
The government announced overnight it had sold its stake in Eurostar. The stake is being bought by a Canadian pension fund and a UK asset manager, who will buy shares for £585m. Eurostar will also hand over £170m to redeem shares which guarantee a dividend. The government's stake was officially valued last year at £325m.
So they've sold it for twice the valuation of last year.
More short termism, a quick fix to make the books look better, if somebody is prepared to pay good money for it ( a pension company at that) perhaps there was long term profits to be made.The government announced overnight it had sold its stake in Eurostar. The stake is being bought by a Canadian pension fund and a UK asset manager, who will buy shares for £585m. Eurostar will also hand over £170m to redeem shares which guarantee a dividend. The government's stake was officially valued last year at £325m.
So they've sold it for twice the valuation of last year.
JustAnotherLogin said:
That certainly is the view of some FiF.
yet the polling consistently shows him as a strength for the Tories: polls usually show he is seen as more trustworthy and more competent than any other leader (including those of the minor parties).
As usual, it's not what you say, but what you conveniently leave out which betrays the emptiness of your point. yet the polling consistently shows him as a strength for the Tories: polls usually show he is seen as more trustworthy and more competent than any other leader (including those of the minor parties).
In all cases it's a minority who are satisfied and the majority are dissatisfied with Cameron.
The next leader shows the same patter not so far behind and so on.
Seems like the argument technique employed, so often criticised when used by Ukippers, is one of 'oh but look the others are so much worse. '
Waste of space.
Osbourne was on the R4s Today program.
The presenter Humphreys repeatedly asked if Osbourne had discussed the HSBC tax dodge situation previously to the recent leak. Wouldn't answer and just kept changing the topic
Same as when Milliband challenged Cameron in PMQs- indicating up to their necks in it, and will lose them some votes hopefully.
The presenter Humphreys repeatedly asked if Osbourne had discussed the HSBC tax dodge situation previously to the recent leak. Wouldn't answer and just kept changing the topic
Same as when Milliband challenged Cameron in PMQs- indicating up to their necks in it, and will lose them some votes hopefully.PRTVR said:
More short termism, a quick fix to make the books look better, if somebody is prepared to pay good money for it ( a pension company at that) perhaps there was long term profits to be made.
More or less profit than the interest we'll not be paying on £750m. Was it £4m we got last year. Anybody know what the yearly interest is on £750m of Gov debt?Yazar said:
Osbourne was on the R4s Today program.
The presenter Humphreys repeatedly asked if Osbourne had discussed the HSBC tax dodge situation previously to the recent leak. Wouldn't answer and just kept changing the topic Same as when Milliband challenged Cameron in PMQs- indicating up to their necks in it, and will lose them some votes hopefully.
Yazar, when the list was first leaked - there was a Labour administration. Balls/Brown had around 18 months to take action on people on the list and did nothing. The presenter Humphreys repeatedly asked if Osbourne had discussed the HSBC tax dodge situation previously to the recent leak. Wouldn't answer and just kept changing the topic
Same as when Milliband challenged Cameron in PMQs- indicating up to their necks in it, and will lose them some votes hopefully.There are a number of people on the list who held swiss bank accounts, that is not illegal. Failing to declare income from that accounts and pay income tax on the wealth created is.
Some individuals on the list held Swiss accounts for the time period during which they lived and worked in Switzerland, they will have paid income tax in Switzerland to the Swiss government, and not be domiciled in the UK for tax purposes.
This "story" is far more nuanced and complex than has been reported, or the view formed by the population looking for any excuse to bash banks/individuals.
No doubt some are engaged in illegal activity, money has been recovered by HMRC in a number of cases.
PRTVR said:
More short termism, a quick fix to make the books look better, if somebody is prepared to pay good money for it ( a pension company at that) perhaps there was long term profits to be made.
They paid for it as it has "long term, predictable and safe cashflows" already. Add to this trains to Provence in May, London-Amsterdam route opens in 2016, and also multiple indirect routes teaming up with SNCF/Deutsche Bahn.
Deutche Bahn is also very keen to start operating its new high speed ICE trains straight into Pancreas from 2016/2017.
Yazar said:
PRTVR said:
More short termism, a quick fix to make the books look better, if somebody is prepared to pay good money for it ( a pension company at that) perhaps there was long term profits to be made.
They paid for it as it has "long term, predictable and safe cashflows" already. Add to this trains to Provence in May, London-Amsterdam route opens in 2016, and also multiple indirect routes teaming up with SNCF/Deutsche Bahn.
Deutche Bahn is also very keen to start operating its new high speed ICE trains straight into Pancreas from 2016/2017.
Munter said:
PRTVR said:
More short termism, a quick fix to make the books look better, if somebody is prepared to pay good money for it ( a pension company at that) perhaps there was long term profits to be made.
More or less profit than the interest we'll not be paying on £750m. Was it £4m we got last year. Anybody know what the yearly interest is on £750m of Gov debt?Zod said:
Yazar said:
PRTVR said:
More short termism, a quick fix to make the books look better, if somebody is prepared to pay good money for it ( a pension company at that) perhaps there was long term profits to be made.
They paid for it as it has "long term, predictable and safe cashflows" already. Add to this trains to Provence in May, London-Amsterdam route opens in 2016, and also multiple indirect routes teaming up with SNCF/Deutsche Bahn.
Deutche Bahn is also very keen to start operating its new high speed ICE trains straight into Pancreas from 2016/2017.
If you look at something like Royal Mail, can make the argument to sell it off as letter volumes are only going one way, and parcel delivery will get more and more competitive and innovative as technology improves, add drones, driverless vans, collect+, ebay purchases from the local Argos and so on. So as long as rural & remote services are protected than doable.
But The Eurostar has excellent prospects for the forseeable future.
So the state should sell businesses facing challenges, but hold onto businesses that look attractive.
Remarkable! Anyone with an ounce of economic mimic sense would think that the Government has played a very good hand here, selling the asset at a very good valuation, doubled in the last year.
Remarkable! Anyone with an ounce of economic mimic sense would think that the Government has played a very good hand here, selling the asset at a very good valuation, doubled in the last year.
Zod said:
So the state should sell businesses facing challenges, but hold onto businesses that look attractive.
Remarkable! Anyone with an ounce of economic mimic sense would think that the Government has played a very good hand here, selling the asset at a very good valuation, doubled in the last year.
Remarkable! Anyone with an ounce of economic mimic sense would think that the Government has played a very good hand here, selling the asset at a very good valuation, doubled in the last year.
Are you serious? You realise a valuation is just an estimate, someones opinion. What it went for is the actual value, and if that differs to this extreme then it was wrongly derived in the first place, or maybe that the politicians wanted it downplayed so didn't lose face.
My House was valued wrongly, had a dozen bids over asking... Next you will be telling me that Royal Mail was valued well!
ralphrj said:
Munter said:
PRTVR said:
More short termism, a quick fix to make the books look better, if somebody is prepared to pay good money for it ( a pension company at that) perhaps there was long term profits to be made.
More or less profit than the interest we'll not be paying on £750m. Was it £4m we got last year. Anybody know what the yearly interest is on £750m of Gov debt?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff