UK General Election 2015
Discussion
funkyrobot said:
Welshbeef said:
I've voted.
Conservative no question
Did you? Or is this another one of your stories?Conservative no question
However feel free to custard test your postal vote
Well just in the news HSBC is seriously looking to move its HQ out of London and out of the UK party due to the bank levy which last year cost them £750m which is increasing from 0.156% to 0.21% already announced in the budget. This change on like for like would mean this year it would be £1.01billion for 2015/16.
So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
Welshbeef said:
Well just in the news HSBC is seriously looking to move its HQ out of London and out of the UK party due to the bank levy which last year cost them £750m which is increasing from 0.156% to 0.21% already announced in the budget. This change on like for like would mean this year it would be £1.01billion for 2015/16.
So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
Rather selective reporting there WB. HSBC actually said one of the greatest factors for a potential exit was the uncertain business environment caused by a potential Brexit following the EU referendum. So the HSBC review of their options is more down to Tory policy. So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
Every election from now on will be more and more interesting as social media (such as this) allows individuals to be influenced by potentially thousands of opinions.
Pre-internet, I would only have been influenced by parents, friends, workmates, newspapers and a bit of telly. Double figures and most would have been the same or similar. The few dissenters would have been shouted down and not been heard, or ignored for being "one of them".
Now there are hundreds of varying opinions all with a voice that can be read. The days of being able to pin a rosette on a donkey to get people to vote for them are gone - and that must scare the politicians stless .
Pre-internet, I would only have been influenced by parents, friends, workmates, newspapers and a bit of telly. Double figures and most would have been the same or similar. The few dissenters would have been shouted down and not been heard, or ignored for being "one of them".
Now there are hundreds of varying opinions all with a voice that can be read. The days of being able to pin a rosette on a donkey to get people to vote for them are gone - and that must scare the politicians stless .
Bluebarge said:
Welshbeef said:
Well just in the news HSBC is seriously looking to move its HQ out of London and out of the UK party due to the bank levy which last year cost them £750m which is increasing from 0.156% to 0.21% already announced in the budget. This change on like for like would mean this year it would be £1.01billion for 2015/16.
So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
Rather selective reporting there WB. HSBC actually said one of the greatest factors for a potential exit was the uncertain business environment caused by a potential Brexit following the EU referendum. So the HSBC review of their options is more down to Tory policy. So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
Welshbeef said:
Bluebarge said:
Welshbeef said:
Well just in the news HSBC is seriously looking to move its HQ out of London and out of the UK party due to the bank levy which last year cost them £750m which is increasing from 0.156% to 0.21% already announced in the budget. This change on like for like would mean this year it would be £1.01billion for 2015/16.
So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
Rather selective reporting there WB. HSBC actually said one of the greatest factors for a potential exit was the uncertain business environment caused by a potential Brexit following the EU referendum. So the HSBC review of their options is more down to Tory policy. So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
I imagine they are eyeing up what new banking levies and taxes are being dreamed up both here and in the EU
Esseesse said:
Why is Cameron warning that Labour would mean a return to open door immigration? What the hell does he think we have now?
Without all the changes the Tories introduced immigration could easily be hundreds of thousands more a year than it is now.Only scrapping the human rights act and changing the terms of our membership of the EU would bring it down to 1990s levels it is true but it could easily be very much higher under Labour.
JagLover said:
Without all the changes the Tories introduced immigration could easily be hundreds of thousands more a year than it is now.
Only scrapping the human rights act and changing the terms of our membership of the EU would bring it down to 1990s levels it is true but it could easily be very much higher under Labour.
Hundreds of thousands a year? Care to support that claim with informstion on these Tory laws that are stopping us from sinking under the weight of such vast numbers?Only scrapping the human rights act and changing the terms of our membership of the EU would bring it down to 1990s levels it is true but it could easily be very much higher under Labour.
Axionknight said:
Hundreds of thousands a year? Care to support that claim with informstion on these Tory laws that are stopping us from sinking under the weight of such vast numbers?
Labour opened the floodgates with stealth changes that wouldn't draw notice.Student Visas became a popular way to bypass immigration controls with the "student" often staying on to work and then achieve residency. These were often not university students, but those entering colleges or foreign language colleges that were often bogus. Tightening up the criteria led to a 46% reduction in the numbers from overseas entering those institutions.
Almost as soon as Labour came to power it abolished the "primary purpose" rule which tried to prevent those who sought to use family reunification VISAs to bypass immigration controls. It terms of long term migration family reunification VISAs are very important as by default those using them are here to stay. The Tories brought in a minimum income requirement of £18,600 in order to sponsor such an application that has had a significant impact on numbers.
Labours "highly skilled" immigration VISAs had tens of thousands a year who wouldn't have met any such description under an Australian style points system. It included numerous people who ended up working in kebab shops, Taxi firms, petrol stations, newsagents etc. Changes made by the Tories increased the number refused VISAs under this regime from 2 per cent to 37 per cent.
Labour's approach was basically to facilitate mass migration while having the pretence of controls being in place. There are genuine controls now but a drastic shift would be required to fully curtail mass migration.
Welshbeef said:
Scuffers said:
and since when is Hong Kong in the EU?
I imagine they are eyeing up what new banking levies and taxes are being dreamed up both here and in the EU
Who said it was?I imagine they are eyeing up what new banking levies and taxes are being dreamed up both here and in the EU
That is one possible location of it moves it's HQ
Singapore is about the only other one, and it's arguably not a big enough financial centre.
realistically, they choice is almost certainly going to be HK of they do actually jump ship.
if they do, say goodbye to some £3Bn tax revenue and on top of that the loss of city jobs associated with it (and all their tax money).
Apparently, Standard Chartered are looking to jump ship too, nothing to do with Brexit.
Zod said:
Guam said:
Zod said:
Look, it's a bit of a rubbish policy, but the HAs will be compensated, so it's hardly confiscation. It's also a minor thing, unlike the Labour and SNP plans to borrow their way to another big bust.
Its no different to land grabs by countries like zimbabwe where the owners are paid "compensation"Its redistribution of wealth is it not?
Are you really going to keep deluding yourself that there are no Marxist principles in this policy?
Welshbeef said:
Well just in the news HSBC is seriously looking to move its HQ out of London and out of the UK party due to the bank levy which last year cost them £750m which is increasing from 0.156% to 0.21% already announced in the budget. This change on like for like would mean this year it would be £1.01billion for 2015/16.
So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
But the Tory plans won't need to be revised to account for this prospect?So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
It's all a game of bluff anyway - where would they go?
Welshbeef said:
Bluebarge said:
Welshbeef said:
Well just in the news HSBC is seriously looking to move its HQ out of London and out of the UK party due to the bank levy which last year cost them £750m which is increasing from 0.156% to 0.21% already announced in the budget. This change on like for like would mean this year it would be £1.01billion for 2015/16.
So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
Rather selective reporting there WB. HSBC actually said one of the greatest factors for a potential exit was the uncertain business environment caused by a potential Brexit following the EU referendum. So the HSBC review of their options is more down to Tory policy. So if it leaves the Labour Party are aiming to increase the bank levy even further.... Possibly enough to push them over the edge and go (also said they are concerned about possible EU exit).
So labours fully costed plans will have to be revised and assume no HSBC and a hole of £1billon plus whatever extra they intend to add to that.....
Guess labour supporters will think they are bluffing or not understand what it means.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32443930
That, plus the bank levy, which was Osborne's idea
Esseesse said:
Why is Cameron warning that Labour would mean a return to open door immigration? What the hell does he think we have now?
Erm, things have changed a huge amount in the last 5 years, it is almost impossible for a normal person coming from outside the EU to get in to the UK without holding a specific highly qualified job. I have friends trying to get out of South Africa but they can not come here anymore because all of the possible Visa types have been removed.Salgar said:
Esseesse said:
Why is Cameron warning that Labour would mean a return to open door immigration? What the hell does he think we have now?
Erm, things have changed a huge amount in the last 5 years, it is almost impossible for a normal person coming from outside the EU to get in to the UK without holding a specific highly qualified job. I have friends trying to get out of South Africa but they can not come here anymore because all of the possible Visa types have been removed.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff