Bin Lorry crashes in Glasgow

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samvia

1,635 posts

170 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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lazyitus said:
Bin trucks are autos. Dead or ill men can't keep pressure on an accelerator. One report on sky mentioned it was speeding?

Edited by lazyitus on Monday 22 December 15:35
It's very difficult to get any real speed up on Queen Street in a car, let alone a bin lorry. It's very stop start even late at night, along with 3 sets of traffic lights. It's hit pedestrians much further down Queen Street too, prior to George Square.

Thoughts with anyone involved, brutal to see.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Where are people reading or hearing that 6 people are confirmed dead? Police Scotland have just stated that at this stage they are not in a position to confirm the number of fatalities.

Such tragic news, my wife works around the corner and is often in that area at lunch time. What an awful time of year for such a thing to happen as well.

Wrathalanche

696 posts

140 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Tried looking up weights of bin trucks, and the best matched models based on my eye (6 axles) can weigh between 15 and 25 tonnes. Even at a crawl thats going to clear a road and make short work of a fair few hand brakes.

Are these trucks speed limited at all? I presume we can rule out the reports of 70mph - I just dont think there's enough road to get up to that speed in such a big lump of a truck, nevermind if its actually able to top out that high.

750turbo

6,164 posts

224 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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tim0409 said:
Dreadful business. Typical Sky coverage - trying to get a clearly upset woman to re-live the accident. Another chap has just confirmed that he thinks the vehicle was travelling at 70mph...
Interview I watched said between 70 & 100!

Where do these idiots come from.

Utterly dreadful accident.

VeeDubBigBird

440 posts

129 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Wrathalanche said:
Tried looking up weights of bin trucks, and the best matched models based on my eye (6 axles) can weigh between 15 and 25 tonnes. Even at a crawl thats going to clear a road and make short work of a fair few hand brakes.

Are these trucks speed limited at all? I presume we can rule out the reports of 70mph - I just dont think there's enough road to get up to that speed in such a big lump of a truck, nevermind if its actually able to top out that high.
Most are limited to 56 mph (same as normal lorries), and yeah wouldn't take much for one of these to make an impact. 25- 30 mph would cause carnage.

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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750turbo said:
tim0409 said:
Dreadful business. Typical Sky coverage - trying to get a clearly upset woman to re-live the accident. Another chap has just confirmed that he thinks the vehicle was travelling at 70mph...
Interview I watched said between 70 & 100!

Where do these idiots come from.

Utterly dreadful accident.
I watched that, he was clearly shook up as it just missed him.

I think we can excuse his daft estimation of speed on this occasion.

TheJimi

24,983 posts

243 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Wrathalanche said:
I just dont think there's enough road to get up to that speed in such a big lump of a truck, nevermind if its actually able to top out that high.
Correct.

FFS I really hate the press & media at times, doing their level best to stir up as much emotion and panic as possible.

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Anything over 25 mph could almost be considered as 'speeding' through those junctions at that time of day. Or at least it could be construed as speeding by passers-by

RIP to those who have died, and my thoughts go out to those who witnessed it, it must've been absolutely horrendous.

smegmore

3,091 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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tim0409 said:
Typical Sky coverage - trying to get a clearly upset woman to re-live the accident.
Indeed.

The mawkish ginger pie-eater trying to goad people into recalling the gory details.

What a witch she is.

rolleyes

Magictrousers

268 posts

174 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Looks like a Daf 6 wheeler, from my practical experience of similar machines, just being in drive and lifting off the brake can bowl them along at a fast walking pace, with a very sudden takeoff.The foot falling onto the accelerator, raising the revs above idle, will be enough to pick up to a reasonable speed. No way would it be doing 70, it's only gone 300 metres. At full chat, it would be just about 30.

Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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smegmore said:
Indeed.

The mawkish ginger pie-eater trying to goad people into recalling the gory details.

What a witch she is.

rolleyes
Have to say, BBC News isn't much better. I had to turn it off.

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Eric Mc said:
smegmore said:
Indeed.

The mawkish ginger pie-eater trying to goad people into recalling the gory details.

What a witch she is.

rolleyes
Have to say, BBC News isn't much better. I had to turn it off.
They are all the same, decency doesn't come in to the equation with the media.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Just listening to an eyewitness on the BBC news site, apparently he observed 5 fatalities on the road. I was speaking to my wife on the phone there, they could hear the screams from her office. So disturbing and so soon after the Clutha tragedy.

RoadRunner220

945 posts

193 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Have to say, BBC News isn't much better. I had to turn it off.
I've just got quite annoyed/angry at a woman that had phoned up on BBC news. She said that she had decided not to post pictures she had taken on twitter due to how graphic they were, like she deserved some sort of medal for decency, totally overlooking that she had taken them in the first place. Seconds after a major incident and rather than helping she's taking fking pictures !!!!

Also, she said it was definitely a bin lorry, and then a little later she was saying that could you imagine what size vehicle it must have been to take out some lampposts and traffic signs, errrmmm, yes, I can imagine, because you've just told us exactly what the vehicle was you dozy bint.

Anyhow, this sounds like a horrific and tragic accident, thoughts go out to the families of those involved. Whilst there's never a 'good' time of year for anything like this to happen, it just seems all the more sad when it happens at Christmas.

Seventy

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5,500 posts

138 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Driver alive and being treated in hospital according to police.

gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Seventy said:
Driver alive and being treated in hospital according to police.
How bad will he be feeling, poor bugger.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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750turbo said:
tim0409 said:
Dreadful business. Typical Sky coverage - trying to get a clearly upset woman to re-live the accident. Another chap has just confirmed that he thinks the vehicle was travelling at 70mph...
Interview I watched said between 70 & 100!

Where do these idiots come from.
Internet forums?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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GG89 said:
Eric Mc said:
smegmore said:
Indeed.

The mawkish ginger pie-eater trying to goad people into recalling the gory details.

What a witch she is.

rolleyes
Have to say, BBC News isn't much better. I had to turn it off.
They are all the same, decency doesn't come in to the equation with the media.
They only do it because their audience watches............

amare32

2,417 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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I wonder what will happen to the driver..

glasgowrob

3,244 posts

121 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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not been into the square today but given the time of year George Sq would have been rammed with traffic. if he's had the first incident at GOMA and carried onto the Millennium its been a fair amount of traffic pushed out the way frown


either way horrible accident to happen especially 3 days before xmas