Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3
Discussion
USA signs UN climate pact blasted as disastrous by scientists and economists:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/ite...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/ite...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36158705 thats got to be sticking in someones craw at the met 
lots of lovely white global warming viner falling from the sky as i type. i am getting all the neighbours to get their kids outside quickly just in case they never see it again. so they will know what it was.
lots of lovely white global warming viner falling from the sky as i type. i am getting all the neighbours to get their kids outside quickly just in case they never see it again. so they will know what it was.wc98 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36158705 thats got to be sticking in someones craw at the met lots of lovely white global warming viner falling from the sky as i type. i am getting all the neighbours to get their kids outside quickly just in case they never see it again. so they will know what it was.
Yes they were saying its the coldest april on record !!! mind its just weather move along nothing to see!!! lots of lovely white global warming viner falling from the sky as i type. i am getting all the neighbours to get their kids outside quickly just in case they never see it again. so they will know what it was.What is the most expensive object on Earth?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36160368
A new nuclear power station in the south-west of the UK will be the most expensive object on Earth. That's the claim about the proposed plant at Hinkley Point in Somerset - but has anything else ever cost so much to build? Hinkley is set to be the most expensive object on Earth… best guesses say Hinkley could pass £24bn ($35bn).
Right, so that's 7% of our future electricity sorted then !!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36160368
A new nuclear power station in the south-west of the UK will be the most expensive object on Earth. That's the claim about the proposed plant at Hinkley Point in Somerset - but has anything else ever cost so much to build? Hinkley is set to be the most expensive object on Earth… best guesses say Hinkley could pass £24bn ($35bn).
Right, so that's 7% of our future electricity sorted then !!!!
robinessex said:
What is the most expensive object on Earth?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36160368
A new nuclear power station in the south-west of the UK will be the most expensive object on Earth. That's the claim about the proposed plant at Hinkley Point in Somerset - but has anything else ever cost so much to build? Hinkley is set to be the most expensive object on Earth… best guesses say Hinkley could pass £24bn ($35bn).
Right, so that's 7% of our future electricity sorted then !!!!
So much negativity..... On the local news they were talking about about the dogger bank wind farm, the largest in the world when it's completed, yes I know that if the wind doesn't blow it will produce nothing, but think about it when did we last have anything that was the largest in the world, even if it is a costly white elephant.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36160368
A new nuclear power station in the south-west of the UK will be the most expensive object on Earth. That's the claim about the proposed plant at Hinkley Point in Somerset - but has anything else ever cost so much to build? Hinkley is set to be the most expensive object on Earth… best guesses say Hinkley could pass £24bn ($35bn).
Right, so that's 7% of our future electricity sorted then !!!!
PRTVR said:
So much negativity..... On the local news they were talking about about the dogger bank wind farm, the largest in the world when it's completed, yes I know that if the wind doesn't blow it will produce nothing, but think about it when did we last have anything that was the largest in the world, even if it is a costly white elephant.
Well on current trends we'll soon have the world's biggest clusterf
k of an energy supply sector. Top of the tree! Hurrah!rovermorris999 said:
Well on current trends we'll soon have the world's biggest clusterfk of an energy supply sector. Top of the tree! Hurrah!
We're not even in the same league as the Germans; Energiewende is a much more comprehensive clusterfk of an energy supply sector. Top of the tree! Hurrah!k than a UK government could ever hope to create.PRTVR said:
So much negativity..... On the local news they were talking about about the dogger bank wind farm, the largest in the world when it's completed, yes I know that if the wind doesn't blow it will produce nothing, but think about it when did we last have anything that was the largest in the world, even if it is a costly white elephant.
Yes but if you are going to build a costly white elephant why not actually build a costly white elephant at least it might be a tourist attraction.
hidetheelephants said:
rovermorris999 said:
Well on current trends we'll soon have the world's biggest clusterfk of an energy supply sector. Top of the tree! Hurrah!
We're not even in the same league as the Germans; Energiewende is a much more comprehensive clusterfk of an energy supply sector. Top of the tree! Hurrah!k than a UK government could ever hope to create.
This is the UK government you're elevating. You know, CMD et al. 1st alternative J-Co. Energiewende is likely being used as a "best practice" example. Unfortunately instead of the example being in the "how not to" column it was placed in the "how to",
regards,
Jet
PRTVR said:
So much negativity..... On the local news they were talking about about the dogger bank wind farm, the largest in the world when it's completed, yes I know that if the wind doesn't blow it will produce nothing, but think about it when did we last have anything that was the largest in the world, even if it is a costly white elephant.
Well, there's Bliar's ego .....The Germans have an answer to the transport and ecology problem which is clearly based on historic Morgans!
http://megadeluxe.com/gear/rennholz-vehicle-concep...
I bet Sir Clive Sinclair is very impressed too.
http://megadeluxe.com/gear/rennholz-vehicle-concep...
I bet Sir Clive Sinclair is very impressed too.
PRTVR said:
robinessex said:
What is the most expensive object on Earth?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36160368
A new nuclear power station in the south-west of the UK will be the most expensive object on Earth. That's the claim about the proposed plant at Hinkley Point in Somerset - but has anything else ever cost so much to build? Hinkley is set to be the most expensive object on Earth… best guesses say Hinkley could pass £24bn ($35bn).
Right, so that's 7% of our future electricity sorted then !!!!
So much negativity..... On the local news they were talking about about the dogger bank wind farm, the largest in the world when it's completed, yes I know that if the wind doesn't blow it will produce nothing, but think about it when did we last have anything that was the largest in the world, even if it is a costly white elephant.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36160368
A new nuclear power station in the south-west of the UK will be the most expensive object on Earth. That's the claim about the proposed plant at Hinkley Point in Somerset - but has anything else ever cost so much to build? Hinkley is set to be the most expensive object on Earth… best guesses say Hinkley could pass £24bn ($35bn).
Right, so that's 7% of our future electricity sorted then !!!!
Shamelessly stolen from the Tesla thread...
gangzoom said:
Back in 1910 when the Ford Model T first appeared there was barely a petrol station in sight, and the streets were full of horses.....and society made the transition to petrol cars fine - though clearly at the time we didn't know any better about emissions.
Germany has made a concerted effort to develop renewable energy in recent years, last year 1/3 of their entire electric supply was via renewables. Here in the UK we have some of the best winds resources anywhere in th world, coupled with energy storage we could have access to FREE and almost ULIMiTATED renewable power, all without having to worry about OPEC/Russian oil.
If you want to see the future, look at Norway, they have loads of oil/gas but almost their entire electric supply is renewable. 1 in 3 cars sold there are now EVs, and ironically their biggest export is oil/gas to the rest of Europe who are still addicted to the stuff.
If you than looking at the developing world, China and India are now the biggest investors in renewable energy, it's not a coincidence Tesla is keen to build its next EV factory in China (not Europe). In the first 3 months of this year EV sales in China has already hit 40K.
The world is changing, we cannot carry on with the status quo, and we shouldn't. Solar/wind with a mixture of existing power supply is the way forwards, but it's up to government to drive it. Sadly the current UK government seems more keen to give tax cuts to North sea oil than support wind/solar whilst the likes of Germany keep on reducing their reliance on old money.
Germany has made a concerted effort to develop renewable energy in recent years, last year 1/3 of their entire electric supply was via renewables. Here in the UK we have some of the best winds resources anywhere in th world, coupled with energy storage we could have access to FREE and almost ULIMiTATED renewable power, all without having to worry about OPEC/Russian oil.
If you want to see the future, look at Norway, they have loads of oil/gas but almost their entire electric supply is renewable. 1 in 3 cars sold there are now EVs, and ironically their biggest export is oil/gas to the rest of Europe who are still addicted to the stuff.
If you than looking at the developing world, China and India are now the biggest investors in renewable energy, it's not a coincidence Tesla is keen to build its next EV factory in China (not Europe). In the first 3 months of this year EV sales in China has already hit 40K.
The world is changing, we cannot carry on with the status quo, and we shouldn't. Solar/wind with a mixture of existing power supply is the way forwards, but it's up to government to drive it. Sadly the current UK government seems more keen to give tax cuts to North sea oil than support wind/solar whilst the likes of Germany keep on reducing their reliance on old money.
mondeoman said:
Shamelessly stolen from the Tesla thread...
What nonsense.gangzoom said:
Back in 1910 when the Ford Model T first appeared there was barely a petrol station in sight, and the streets were full of horses.....and society made the transition to petrol cars fine - though clearly at the time we didn't know any better about emissions.
Germany has made a concerted effort to develop renewable energy in recent years, last year 1/3 of their entire electric supply was via renewables. Here in the UK we have some of the best winds resources anywhere in th world, coupled with energy storage we could have access to FREE and almost ULIMiTATED renewable power, all without having to worry about OPEC/Russian oil.
If you want to see the future, look at Norway, they have loads of oil/gas but almost their entire electric supply is renewable. 1 in 3 cars sold there are now EVs, and ironically their biggest export is oil/gas to the rest of Europe who are still addicted to the stuff.
If you than looking at the developing world, China and India are now the biggest investors in renewable energy, it's not a coincidence Tesla is keen to build its next EV factory in China (not Europe). In the first 3 months of this year EV sales in China has already hit 40K.
The world is changing, we cannot carry on with the status quo, and we shouldn't. Solar/wind with a mixture of existing power supply is the way forwards, but it's up to government to drive it. Sadly the current UK government seems more keen to give tax cuts to North sea oil than support wind/solar whilst the likes of Germany keep on reducing their reliance on old money.
Germany has made a concerted effort to develop renewable energy in recent years, last year 1/3 of their entire electric supply was via renewables. Here in the UK we have some of the best winds resources anywhere in th world, coupled with energy storage we could have access to FREE and almost ULIMiTATED renewable power, all without having to worry about OPEC/Russian oil.
If you want to see the future, look at Norway, they have loads of oil/gas but almost their entire electric supply is renewable. 1 in 3 cars sold there are now EVs, and ironically their biggest export is oil/gas to the rest of Europe who are still addicted to the stuff.
If you than looking at the developing world, China and India are now the biggest investors in renewable energy, it's not a coincidence Tesla is keen to build its next EV factory in China (not Europe). In the first 3 months of this year EV sales in China has already hit 40K.
The world is changing, we cannot carry on with the status quo, and we shouldn't. Solar/wind with a mixture of existing power supply is the way forwards, but it's up to government to drive it. Sadly the current UK government seems more keen to give tax cuts to North sea oil than support wind/solar whilst the likes of Germany keep on reducing their reliance on old money.
rovermorris999 said:
mondeoman said:
Shamelessly stolen from the Tesla thread...
What nonsense.gangzoom said:
Back in 1910 when the Ford Model T first appeared there was barely a petrol station in sight, and the streets were full of horses.....and society made the transition to petrol cars fine - though clearly at the time we didn't know any better about emissions.
Germany has made a concerted effort to develop renewable energy in recent years, last year 1/3 of their entire electric supply was via renewables. Here in the UK we have some of the best winds resources anywhere in th world, coupled with energy storage we could have access to FREE and almost ULIMiTATED renewable power, all without having to worry about OPEC/Russian oil.
If you want to see the future, look at Norway, they have loads of oil/gas but almost their entire electric supply is renewable. 1 in 3 cars sold there are now EVs, and ironically their biggest export is oil/gas to the rest of Europe who are still addicted to the stuff.
If you than looking at the developing world, China and India are now the biggest investors in renewable energy, it's not a coincidence Tesla is keen to build its next EV factory in China (not Europe). In the first 3 months of this year EV sales in China has already hit 40K.
The world is changing, we cannot carry on with the status quo, and we shouldn't. Solar/wind with a mixture of existing power supply is the way forwards, but it's up to government to drive it. Sadly the current UK government seems more keen to give tax cuts to North sea oil than support wind/solar whilst the likes of Germany keep on reducing their reliance on old money.
Germany has made a concerted effort to develop renewable energy in recent years, last year 1/3 of their entire electric supply was via renewables. Here in the UK we have some of the best winds resources anywhere in th world, coupled with energy storage we could have access to FREE and almost ULIMiTATED renewable power, all without having to worry about OPEC/Russian oil.
If you want to see the future, look at Norway, they have loads of oil/gas but almost their entire electric supply is renewable. 1 in 3 cars sold there are now EVs, and ironically their biggest export is oil/gas to the rest of Europe who are still addicted to the stuff.
If you than looking at the developing world, China and India are now the biggest investors in renewable energy, it's not a coincidence Tesla is keen to build its next EV factory in China (not Europe). In the first 3 months of this year EV sales in China has already hit 40K.
The world is changing, we cannot carry on with the status quo, and we shouldn't. Solar/wind with a mixture of existing power supply is the way forwards, but it's up to government to drive it. Sadly the current UK government seems more keen to give tax cuts to North sea oil than support wind/solar whilst the likes of Germany keep on reducing their reliance on old money.
Here we go again
Renewables Catch 22
http://bravenewclimate.com/2014/08/22/catch-22-of-...
Engineers Say Renewable Energy ‘Simply won’t work’
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/22/shocker-top-...
dudleybloke said:
To be fair, Bill Nye mostly pretends to be an engineer, it's his fan base that bigs him up as a scientist. He's still wrong, mind.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff