Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3
Discussion
I love the taste of mmgw mentalists tears in the morning
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/24/climate...
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/24/climate...
London424 said:
I wonder how quickly the smear campaign will get underway against them.Good to see the Telegraph at least sticking to this.
Jasandjules said:
London424 said:
I wonder how quickly the smear campaign will get underway against them.They should get Steve McIntyre working with them behind the scenes, checking the checking. He knows where the bodies are buried so he can point out anything they miss, and he's totally on top of the stats methods being abused.
Jasandjules said:
Good to see the Telegraph at least sticking to this.
The DT must be getting $$$gazillions from Big Oil, mobody at the paper will ever have to work again.
London424 said:
If the results confirm that the figures have been fiddled, pick the response from the following1) Ignore it and carry on with the climate lie
2) destroy the reputation of the scientists involved
3) send death threats for not agreeing with MMGW theory
4) release report with huge media funding claiming hottest year yet/no ice left/penguins are dying/20years to save the planet
The trouble is that like a religion, it is almost impossible to remove the indoctrination that has occurred in the education system.
Crush said:
turbobloke said:
Comments are looking good overall. There are times when it appears that more people have seen through the scam/hoax/religion than we may give credit for.
It's 10am, the crusties are yet to wake up and attack the Telegraph site with their vile nonsense 
Agreed, it does take time for anti-capitalist greens to bimble over to tax-avoiding Starbucks for the free WiFi.
No doubt about it, it's still going to be a real piece of work to undo the mass indoctrination, but there are some positive signs.
McWigglebum4th said:
I wonder why it is called MAN made global warming and not human made global warming
As it is your fault if you have a penis
As it is your fault if you have a penis
This was sort of the point I clumsily tried to make earlier. Why is it that the ecomentalists bleat on loudly and endlessly about MAN made global warming but go strangely quiet when it is pointed out to them, that we are globally churning out more MAN at NET rates of up 346 thousand more new MAN, every single day.
That's like them `shouting fire! fire!' when a fire is discovered, but saying absolutely nothing when thousand's of gallons of petrol is poured onto it.
McWigglebum4th said:
I wonder why it is called MAN made global warming and not human made global warming
As it is your fault if you have a penis
It's short for mankind, but it should be spelt "MANN made global warming", since climate charlatan Michael "hockey stick" Mann helped invent it.As it is your fault if you have a penis
Pan Pan Pan said:
McWigglebum4th said:
I wonder why it is called MAN made global warming and not human made global warming
As it is your fault if you have a penis
As it is your fault if you have a penis
This was sort of the point I clumsily tried to make earlier. Why is it that the ecomentalists bleat on loudly and endlessly about MAN made global warming but go strangely quiet when it is pointed out to them, that we are globally churning out more MAN at NET rates of up 346 thousand more new MAN, every single day.
That's like them `shouting fire! fire!' when a fire is discovered, but saying absolutely nothing when thousand's of gallons of petrol is poured onto it.
2013BRM said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
McWigglebum4th said:
I wonder why it is called MAN made global warming and not human made global warming
As it is your fault if you have a penis
As it is your fault if you have a penis
This was sort of the point I clumsily tried to make earlier. Why is it that the ecomentalists bleat on loudly and endlessly about MAN made global warming but go strangely quiet when it is pointed out to them, that we are globally churning out more MAN at NET rates of up 346 thousand more new MAN, every single day.
That's like them `shouting fire! fire!' when a fire is discovered, but saying absolutely nothing when thousand's of gallons of petrol is poured onto it.
This being the case, why do the ecomentalists whinge on about its effects?
If they too accept we cannot do anything about the unprecedented rise in the global population they must also accept that there will be nothing we can will be n
Pan Pan Pan said:
Apologies. post went off prematurely.
If as many (including ecomentalists)accept there is nothing `we' can do to control the global population rise, why do they think we can control its effects on the planet?
The hypocrisy of the ecomentalists position is irritating to say the least.
Ah gotcha, totally agreeIf as many (including ecomentalists)accept there is nothing `we' can do to control the global population rise, why do they think we can control its effects on the planet?
The hypocrisy of the ecomentalists position is irritating to say the least.
Crush said:
London424 said:
If the results confirm that the figures have been fiddled, pick the response from the following1) Ignore it and carry on with the climate lie
2) destroy the reputation of the scientists involved
3) send death threats for not agreeing with MMGW theory
4) release report with huge media funding claiming hottest year yet/no ice left/penguins are dying/20years to save the planet
The trouble is that like a religion, it is almost impossible to remove the indoctrination that has occurred in the education system.
plunker said:
Crush said:
London424 said:
If the results confirm that the figures have been fiddled, pick the response from the following1) Ignore it and carry on with the climate lie
2) destroy the reputation of the scientists involved
3) send death threats for not agreeing with MMGW theory
4) release report with huge media funding claiming hottest year yet/no ice left/penguins are dying/20years to save the planet
The trouble is that like a religion, it is almost impossible to remove the indoctrination that has occurred in the education system.
Regarding what has happened and past efforts, you must be deliberately avoiding any visits to Climate Audit, where Steve McIntyre has set out numerous silliness (you use the word fraud) for all to see who want to see. This ranges from Jones The Data to Mike's Nature Trick and the most influential tree in the world (YADa YADa) and Upside Down Mann...not forgetting the directly relevant observations on 'CRU TAR' in terms of a surface database and the temperature of airport tarmac.
As to prejudging the outcome, I guess you must have used a model for that.
plunker said:
They appear to be a credible group so going by past serious efforts it's unlikely they'll find any fiddling going on - and conspiracy theorists will carry on calling fraud regardless.
Plenty of fiddling has previously been found, when people actually release the raw data rather than hide it or destroy it that is (I wonder why they do that?)Jasandjules said:
plunker said:
They appear to be a credible group so going by past serious efforts it's unlikely they'll find any fiddling going on - and conspiracy theorists will carry on calling fraud regardless.
Plenty of fiddling has previously been found, when people actually release the raw data rather than hide it or destroy it that is (I wonder why they do that?)Raw data is flat for ~100 years from Oz and NZ to USA.
Clearly it's warming dangerously as predicted by their superb climate models
BTW we still have 'scientists' pretending that reality is wrong and models are right.
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