Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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Ali G

3,526 posts

283 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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Most assuredly Sir, though hast spake 'BUGGER'

Whether this term 'BUGGER' should be classified as noun or verb - which the Beeb will no doubt be of assistance in determination - this word 'BUGGER' may have origins in Anglo-Saxon terminology.

It is a 'top' word is 'BUGGER' - there can be no mistake about that!

Blib

44,212 posts

198 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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There is no higher calling for a Prime Minister than to be seen to be saving the planet for future generations.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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turbobloke said:
http://www.british-gazette.co.uk/2015/05/11/rms-ti...

It looks like we need to prepare for winter power cuts and other short- to mid-term consequences. Timing is as unpredictable as weather (and the climate).
Hopefully, a few power cuts and the Green blob gravy train might just hit the buffers or is that wishful thinking??

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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The BBC's piece on the Amber Rudd appointment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3269...


Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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"climate-sceptic"

That's a new one.

hidetheelephants

24,492 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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I appreciate this field is occupied with an unholy quantity of neologisms, but that's a new one on me. Is it possible to be sentient and be sceptical that the climate changes? It's clear what the context and meaning is; exactly what it was when they started calling people climate change deniers. Set those strawmen up and knock 'em down; way to go BBC! rolleyes

wc98

10,424 posts

141 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
maybe not as surprising a position from the tories as one might think. http://www.cpexposed.com/latest-news/common-purpos...

The Don of Croy

6,002 posts

160 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Have we had the Beeb's coverage of the 'el nino' effect later this year - but towards the end of the piece is this gem;

"Another strong El Nino event was expected during last year's record-breaking temperatures, but failed to materialise."

Article is here;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3270...

- was also featured in last night's ten o'clock news (so must be significant - the news would hardly bother with flaky predictions of future events, now would it?).

motco

15,968 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
Have we had the Beeb's coverage of the 'el nino' effect later this year - but towards the end of the piece is this gem;

"Another strong El Nino event was expected during last year's record-breaking temperatures, but failed to materialise."

Article is here;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3270...

- was also featured in last night's ten o'clock news (so must be significant - the news would hardly bother with flaky predictions of future events, now would it?).
Another BBC spokeswallah said that this could spell the end of the climate change pause. So there IS a pause! And why would a well documented intermittent phenomenon have owt to do with MMGW anyway?

turbobloke

104,046 posts

261 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
Have we had the Beeb's coverage of the 'el nino' effect later this year - but towards the end of the piece is this gem;

"Another strong El Nino event was expected during last year's record-breaking temperatures, but failed to materialise."

Article is here;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3270...

- was also featured in last night's ten o'clock news (so must be significant - the news would hardly bother with flaky predictions of future events, now would it?).
Hardly! What the BBC needs is a pollster to look into ENSO 2015 and get things straight.

Mrs TB caught some of that ^ but as I don't watch or listen to the BBC by choice, I missed it. Then again I get regular email updates with the NOAA imprimatur (not a psychic octpus, yet) and as of April the ENSO Alert System Status Report had this to say: "At this time, there is also considerable uncertainty as to how strong this event may become. In summary, there is an approximately 70% chance that El Niño will continue through the Northern Hemisphere summer 2015, and a greater than 60% chance that it will last through autumn."

Early signs of strengthening this month have already been clasped to the bosom of believers praying for a record in 2015.

https://robertscribbler.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/c...

robinessex

11,068 posts

182 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
Have we had the Beeb's coverage of the 'el nino' effect later this year - but towards the end of the piece is this gem;

"Another strong El Nino event was expected during last year's record-breaking temperatures, but failed to materialise."

Article is here;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3270...

- was also featured in last night's ten o'clock news (so must be significant - the news would hardly bother with flaky predictions of future events, now would it?).
Love that article. Full of very unscientific words such as "could" ; "potential" ; "doubt" ; "predict" ; "might" ; "cannot" ; "precise" ; "likely" ; "trying" ; "improve" : "expected" ; "failed" : "likelihood" ; "unknown" ; "can". So that's the science settled then.

rovermorris999

5,203 posts

190 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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We're all going to drown! Maybe, in a century or two, or maybe not.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-307...

robinessex

11,068 posts

182 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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rovermorris999 said:
We're all going to drown! Maybe, in a century or two, or maybe not.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-307...
So, 21,235 sq miles of ice drops into 361,900,000 sq miles of water. Which is an increase of approx 0.006% by area. Or 0.00037% by vol. Oh wow, we're all going to drown !!!!

Time to read this again

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/OllierPaine-NoIceS...

Edited by robinessex on Wednesday 13th May 13:37

wc98

10,424 posts

141 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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robinessex said:
rovermorris999 said:
We're all going to drown! Maybe, in a century or two, or maybe not.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-307...
So, 21,235 sq miles of ice drops into 361,900,000 sq miles of water. Which is an increase of approx 0.006% by area. Or 0.00037% by vol. Oh wow, we're all going to drown !!!!

Time to read this again

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/OllierPaine-NoIceS...

Edited by robinessex on Wednesday 13th May 13:37
not according to these guys smile "Extract: "It has been hypothesised that this disintegration could raise sea levels by approximately 3.3 metres (11 ft). (If the entire West Antarctic Ice Sheet were to melt, this would contribute 4.8 m (16 ft) to global sea level.)" http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,31...

it really is worth going over there for a laugh . i have a £1000 bet with jim hunt that the arctic will not become ice free (even gave him the warmist definition of ice free ) by 2022 . the summer arctic melting season thread will reach the usual crescendo over the next couple of months ,with shrieks of blow torches being taken to various arctic regions based on modeled weather forecasts that bear little relation to what actually happens on the ground. it is hilarious to watch unfold,particularly the crushing disappointment when the ice steadfastly remains for yet another year.

i think the record for a sceptic posting is about ten posts before banning ,anyone want to try and beat it smile

Silver Smudger

3,299 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Apparently there has been too much ice in the Antarctic for some years ...

Record Antarctic sea ice a logistic problem for scientists

Article said:
Rob Wooding said that resupplying Australia's Mawson Station -- the longest continuously operated outpost in Antarctica -- relied on access to a bay, a task increasingly complicated by sea ice blocking the way.

Wooding said that at Mawson, the ice typically only breaks up for one or two months of the summer, but in the last four to six years this has not happened every year, and some years only partially

"In the 2013-4 season we couldn't get anywhere near Mawson due to the sea ice and we had to get fuel in there by helicopter which is inadequate for the long-term sustainability of the station," he said, adding that the French and Japanese had similar problems.

motco

15,968 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Very clever but ultimately bloody annoying!

Foxeh

1,114 posts

133 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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wc98 said:
not according to these guys smile "Extract: "It has been hypothesised that this disintegration could raise sea levels by approximately 3.3 metres (11 ft). (If the entire West Antarctic Ice Sheet were to melt, this would contribute 4.8 m (16 ft) to global sea level.)" http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,31...
http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,28...

If you ever wanted to sum up the entire Climate Change debate in one thread, on one forum, then this is it.

I find it hard to believe, that even after an expert can state that the various pieces of 'evidence' being thrown at him all wrong, people still don't believe him.


Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Australian university's decision to forgo a federally financed research center because of its links to a controversial Danish researcher has prompted a firestorm of criticism and accusations that Australian academe supports “soft censorship” over academic freedom.


https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/05/13/aus...

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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hah, it seems that islam and climate religion go along quite well

http://islamqa.info/en/110197

I wonder if IPCC will include this quran verse in their next report smile
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