Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3
Discussion
turbobloke said:
LongQ said:
jshell said:
Well, we're saving the melting glaciers... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32802588 by sending ice to Antarctica.
Spokesperson seems a bit off message thought.""We are probably the only scientific community whose archive is in danger of disappearing from the face of the planet. If you work on corals, on marine sediments, on tree rings, the raw material is still here and will be for many centuries," he says."
Corals? I thought we had been told they were all going to disappear imminently due to Ocean accidification.
Listening to the shrill hysteria of believers, if the planet was a car the only thing that would be left in working order beyond 400 ppmv would be the ash tray - and its future use would be to contain the dust from our bones after we all burn in the heat.
Ho Ho Ho
Currently an optional extra iirc - or at least an "opt in" item.
I would guess they will soon be banned along with smoking in cars. Which is probably why the 400ppmv boundary is being treated as the same sort of threshold for social control.
I suppose sea level rises might have an upside
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/11...
We're all doomed, I tell ye.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/11...
We're all doomed, I tell ye.
rovermorris999 said:
I suppose sea level rises might have an upside
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/11...
We're all doomed, I tell ye.
Hay on Wye is celebrated in scientific circles now? Who knew?http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/11...
We're all doomed, I tell ye.
I like the planning chaps' (mistaken) claim;
"“There are one or two people in the Department for Communities and Local Government who are looking at this, but most are planning for a 60cm rise by 2100 but the science tells us that it is going to be at least double that,” he said."
- a four foot rise in the next 85 years, or 1.4cm average per year...you'd think someone would have noticed already?
The Don of Croy said:
rovermorris999 said:
I suppose sea level rises might have an upside
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/11...
We're all doomed, I tell ye.
Hay on Wye is celebrated in scientific circles now? Who knew?http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/11...
We're all doomed, I tell ye.
I like the planning chaps' (mistaken) claim;
"“There are one or two people in the Department for Communities and Local Government who are looking at this, but most are planning for a 60cm rise by 2100 but the science tells us that it is going to be at least double that,” he said."
- a four foot rise in the next 85 years, or 1.4cm average per year...you'd think someone would have noticed already?
ks, and no one says anything to refute it.
Hull? Not really. Bit of a dump.
You know, I've always wondered why it's referred to as Hull. It's full name is "Kingston upon Hull", so if it has to be shortened, call it Kingston, which is a much nicer name. They don't call Kingston upon Thames "Thames".
You know, I've always wondered why it's referred to as Hull. It's full name is "Kingston upon Hull", so if it has to be shortened, call it Kingston, which is a much nicer name. They don't call Kingston upon Thames "Thames".
nelly1 said:
Ha Ha, so true. Such a piss weak president. Come back Jimmy Carter, all is forgiven.The logic of this escapes me?
"A fundamental prediction of climate change theory is that upper atmosphere will cool in response to greenhouse gases in the troposphere," says Mlynczak. "Scientists need to validate that theory. This climate record of the upper atmosphere is our first chance to have the other side of the equation."
"A fundamental prediction of climate change theory is that upper atmosphere will cool in response to greenhouse gases in the troposphere," says Mlynczak. "Scientists need to validate that theory. This climate record of the upper atmosphere is our first chance to have the other side of the equation."
Jasandjules said:
The logic of this escapes me?
"A fundamental prediction of climate change theory is that upper atmosphere will cool in response to greenhouse gases in the troposphere," says Mlynczak. "Scientists need to validate that theory. This climate record of the upper atmosphere is our first chance to have the other side of the equation."
This is how believer sites explain it for the stratosphere."A fundamental prediction of climate change theory is that upper atmosphere will cool in response to greenhouse gases in the troposphere," says Mlynczak. "Scientists need to validate that theory. This climate record of the upper atmosphere is our first chance to have the other side of the equation."
Believer Website said:
Climate models predict that if greenhouse gases are to blame for heating at the surface, compensating cooling must occur in the upper atmosphere. If the surface atmosphere warms, there must be compensating cooling elsewhere in the atmosphere in order to keep the amount of heat given off by the planet the same.
What a pity that, among a whole host of other failures, those models get stratosphere cooling wrong - compare model to reality in the blue top layer for the first graphic, where the model output (complete with missing tropical troposphere hotspot) is top left - and note the discrepancy continues above 10km in the second graphic.
Even then, the (lack of) causality issue is still present. There are other issues with the believer position but that's enough junkscience for now, hopefully
V88Dicky said:
First day of summer tomorrow, and its forecast rain and 11C here.
Can we have some Global Warming? Pleeaase?
We have lots of it, haven't you heard, this is the hottest year on record. Of course, I have no idea where they get the temps for that weather given how f***ng cold it has been, but there we go.....Can we have some Global Warming? Pleeaase?
Jasandjules said:
V88Dicky said:
First day of summer tomorrow, and its forecast rain and 11C here.
Can we have some Global Warming? Pleeaase?
We have lots of it, haven't you heard, this is the hottest year on record. Of course, I have no idea where they get the temps for that weather given how f***ng cold it has been, but there we go.....Can we have some Global Warming? Pleeaase?
Obviously burning the gas will have increased the global temperature especially in India.
LongQ said:
Jasandjules said:
V88Dicky said:
First day of summer tomorrow, and its forecast rain and 11C here.
Can we have some Global Warming? Pleeaase?
We have lots of it, haven't you heard, this is the hottest year on record. Of course, I have no idea where they get the temps for that weather given how f***ng cold it has been, but there we go.....Can we have some Global Warming? Pleeaase?
Obviously burning the gas will have increased the global temperature especially in India.
turbobloke said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Well there hasn't even been a single squeak about the disgraced head of the IPCC being found guilty of sexual harassment has there!
His indictment was covered, including on PH. Guilty eh? He really should have learned to keep his personal thermometer in check.Love this bit.............
"The panel also noted that when the woman resisted, Pachauri retaliated by 'taking away her work'."
Typical punishment for deniers
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