Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

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Ali G

3,526 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Ooh, and indeed, err

"These publications are subject to Crown Copyright. Please refer to our Crown Copyright terms of use for details on how you can use this content. For further guidance please contact the Weather Desk. "

wobble

hehe

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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I fully expect the database which holds the July and August 1911 Met office summaries to get 'Irreversibly corrupted and lost forever' very soon..

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

169 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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It's just ridiculous, technically it may have been a one-day July record by a few tenths of a degree, but in 1911 the thermometer wasn't set in a concrete and tarmac airport apron with jet wash and air conditioning plant outlets! Also the 2015 hourly Heathrow obs. didn't show a record, it was only the modern ability to continuously record that spotted the 'record'.

There is much mention of unprecedented heat all over the world on the BBC/Met, but little mention of the cold winter down south - Canberra -7C for instance.

Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Thursday 2nd July 22:14

Ali G

3,526 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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"Not as precisely as modern technology, which can determine accurately the temperature within 0.1 C above tarmac in full force of Jumbo Jet take-off"

nelly1

5,630 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Mr GrimNasty said:
It's just ridiculous, technically it may have been a one-day July record by a few tenths of a degree, but in 1911 the thermometer wasn't set in a concrete and tarmac airport apron with jet wash and air conditioning plant outlets! Also the 2015 hourly Heathrow obs. didn't show a record, it was only the MMWAA's (Modern Media With An Agenda) ability to overhype absolutely everything that spotted the 'record'.
Fixed that for you wink

Ali G

3,526 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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And meanwhile..

The 'Hypothesis' resides in computer models - and those alone - but computer 'sez yes' - despite fudged/tortured/imagined data saying 'NO'

M'Lud - the case is closed.

Oh wait...

banghead

hidetheelephants

23,772 posts

192 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Not satisfied with the OMG! it's a scorcher! nonsense, the BBC are rolling out another iteration of OMG! the seas are acidifying! and comparing the seas today with the seas of the Permian-Triassic extinction, when atmospheric CO2 peaked at >>2000ppm, a bout of vulcanism filled the atmosphere with methane and the mean global temperature was perhaps 10 degrees hotter. There's wrong and then there's not even wrong.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Didn't somebody predict June would deliver record high temperatures?

Seems to have gone quiet on that score.

I noticed a couple of warm days, during the rest I was freezing my nuts off.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2015/7/3/do...

Had to chuckle the other day when I heard Ed Minigland was trying to save a colliery in his constituency.

Funny how his constituents didn't notice his Climate Change Act bringing about the closure.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

169 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Didn't somebody predict June would deliver record high temperatures?

Seems to have gone quiet on that score.

I noticed a couple of warm days, during the rest I was freezing my nuts off.
June was cooler than 'average', the BBC weather bloke mentioned it once, and could barely spit the words out before doing 20 minutes of thermageddon.

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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dickymint said:
Agreed, that's good news overall.

So George Osborne is to abolish the Coalition's green tax target as "subsidies spiral out of control" resulting in £1.5bn extra on energy bills per year by 2020, above and beyond the planned £7.5bn extra. OK but the original plan was already silly.

If it's true that Tory ministers are "angry" at the scale of the over-running costs and are blaming the Liberal Democrats who ran the Department for Energy and Climate Change for the past five years for "the spectacular failure to control renewable energy programmes" then they might like to check out how CMD's recent appointment, the current Secretary of State, is getting on just to be sure there are no more unpleasant surprises arising from the green myths.


krunchkin

2,209 posts

140 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Good god. Just read this bks. Utter lunacy
http://gu.com/p/4acvm

NicD

3,281 posts

256 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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krunchkin said:
Good god. Just read this bks. Utter lunacy
http://gu.com/p/4acvm
'Just one return flight from London to New York produces a greater carbon footprint than a whole year’s personal allowance needed to keep the climate safe.'
https://www.eta.co.uk/environmental-info/air-trave...

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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krunchkin said:
Good god. Just read this bks. Utter lunacy
http://gu.com/p/4acvm
eek

Where do they dig these people up?!

wobblenuts

jestersilly

For those who might be nursing a hangover or be in a delicate state for other reasons, Stewart Lee reckons it’s too late to save the planet. As a result we should get our irony out and enjoy the spectacle of doom.

The last paragraph is suggestive of psychotropic substances at large and this graphic likewise. Lee is clearly in a bit of a stew.



The business world is right admits Lee sarcastically. We should just get on with the third Heathrow runway, and the extinction of all life on Earth while we’re at it. After all, says Lee, why delay the inevitable?


Crush

15,077 posts

168 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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NicD said:
krunchkin said:
Good god. Just read this bks. Utter lunacy
http://gu.com/p/4acvm
'Just one return flight from London to New York produces a greater carbon footprint than a whole year’s personal allowance needed to keep the climate safe.'
https://www.eta.co.uk/environmental-info/air-trave...
Does this mean the 'green' activists, politicians (and their entourage), celebs etc will stop flying to their 'Save the planet!1111one!" Conventions?

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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NicD said:
krunchkin said:
Good god. Just read this bks. Utter lunacy
http://gu.com/p/4acvm
'Just one return flight from London to New York produces a greater carbon footprint than a whole year’s personal allowance needed to keep the climate safe.'
https://www.eta.co.uk/environmental-info/air-trave...
Fifty shades of the old personal carbon credit card marxist 'solution'.

This is rapidly turning into a full-on Bonkers Day.

hidetheelephants

23,772 posts

192 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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turbobloke said:
For those who might be nursing a hangover or be in a delicate state for other reasons, Stewart Lee reckons it’s too late to save the planet. As a result we should get our irony out and enjoy the spectacle of doom.
It's always difficult to tell whether he's taking the piss or not; sometimes I think he doesn't know either.

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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hidetheelephants said:
turbobloke said:
For those who might be nursing a hangover or be in a delicate state for other reasons, Stewart Lee reckons it’s too late to save the planet. As a result we should get our irony out and enjoy the spectacle of doom.
It's always difficult to tell whether he's taking the piss or not; sometimes I think he doesn't know either.
After reading that codswallop it sure looks like he's taking something.

Blib

43,793 posts

196 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Green energy subsidies spiral out of control.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/budget/11718594...
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