Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2015/9/8/gr...

Greenpeace, pondering the coming ice age...bangheadrofl

turbobloke

103,959 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2015/9/8/gr...

Greenpeace, pondering the coming ice age...bangheadrofl
Surely even snow is a thing of the past? Ice is going going gone? We were told.

When it suits them, and to adapt the saying in a changing climate, Greenpeace want their hot cake and freeze it.

XM5ER

5,091 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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That is hilarious, the cognitive dissonance must be excruciatingly painful. Do they really, actually really, think that radionuclides (SIC?) would be a problem with a mile deep ice sheet bearing down on Selafield? They are absolutely barking.

turbobloke

103,959 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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XM5ER said:
That is hilarious, the cognitive dissonance must be excruciatingly painful. Do they really, actually really, think that radionuclides (SIC?) would be a problem with a mile deep ice sheet bearing down on Selafield? They are absolutely barking.
Absolutely.

Ice sheet coverage of the UK at the most recent glaciation looked like this.


turbobloke

103,959 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Here is the Little Ice Age picture, of more immediate relevance with regard to Maunder Minimum possibilitites.


2013BRM

39,731 posts

284 months

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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2013BRM said:
I guess that would explain the st Summer we've had, if the Earth has indeed tilted/wobbled slightly northwards..

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2015/9/10/d...

Lord Stern's on a roll right now...

Never heard of the British Academy, but we're funding it to the tune of £30 million a year and it's the 'go to' place for robust evidence, don't you know, so it must be good...

Behold...

British Academy said:
What is the British Academy?

The British Academy is the UK's expert body that supports and speaks for the humanities and social sciences – that rich variety of disciplines that study peoples, cultures and societies, past, present and future.

It funds research across the UK and in other parts of the world, in disciplines ranging from archaeology to economics, from psychology to history, and from literature to law – producing knowledge, insights and ideas that help us to address the great challenges of our time.

And the Academy seeks to increase public understanding of how all these subjects contribute to our economic, social, cultural and individual well-being.

The Academy receives around £30m a year in Government grants to support its work. But it operates autonomously as a Fellowship of more than 1,000 of the world's most eminent scholars in the humanities and social sciences, elected for their outstanding research.

The independence and the expertise of these Fellows make the Academy the 'go to' place for robust evidence and thoughtful policy analysis and discussion, and they spearhead the public engagement activities that champion the humanities and social sciences.

turbobloke

103,959 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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chris watton said:
2013BRM said:
I guess that would explain the st Summer we've had, if the Earth has indeed tilted/wobbled slightly northwards..
Extra potent seagull wine.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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turbobloke said:
chris watton said:
2013BRM said:
I guess that would explain the st Summer we've had, if the Earth has indeed tilted/wobbled slightly northwards..
Extra potent seagull wine.
The comments in the link are, er, "interesting".

turbobloke

103,959 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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LongQ said:
turbobloke said:
chris watton said:
2013BRM said:
I guess that would explain the st Summer we've had, if the Earth has indeed tilted/wobbled slightly northwards..
Extra potent seagull wine.
The comments in the link are, er, "interesting".
"Nothing lines up any more"

Extra potent seagull wine.

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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The IPCC should offer them a job, they'd fit in well.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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turbobloke said:
LongQ said:
turbobloke said:
chris watton said:
2013BRM said:
I guess that would explain the st Summer we've had, if the Earth has indeed tilted/wobbled slightly northwards..
Extra potent seagull wine.
The comments in the link are, er, "interesting".
"Nothing lines up any more"

Extra potent seagull wine.
Have NASA spotted any of this or maybe the Greenwich (Green-Witch) observatory?

turbobloke

103,959 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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TheExcession said:
turbobloke said:
LongQ said:
turbobloke said:
chris watton said:
2013BRM said:
I guess that would explain the st Summer we've had, if the Earth has indeed tilted/wobbled slightly northwards..
Extra potent seagull wine.
The comments in the link are, er, "interesting".
"Nothing lines up any more"

Extra potent seagull wine.
Have NASA spotted any of this or maybe the Greenwich (Green-Witch) observatory?
The last I read from NASA on such things was following the 9.0 Japanese quake. The bold bit is me.

NASA said:
The March 11, magnitude 9.0 earthquake in Japan may have shortened the length of each Earth day and shifted its axis. But don't worry — you won't notice the difference ... by changing the distribution of Earth's mass, the Japanese earthquake should have caused Earth to rotate a bit faster, shortening the length of the day by about 1.8 microseconds ... the Chile quake (8.8) should have shortened the length of day by about 1.26 microseconds and shifted Earth's figure axis by about 8 centimeters ... a similar calculation performed after the 2004 magnitude 9.1 Sumatran earthquake revealed it should have shortened the length of day by 6.8 microseconds and shifted Earth's axis by about 7 centimeters ... How an individual earthquake affects Earth's rotation depends on its size (magnitude), location and the details of how the fault slipped.
"But don't worry - you won't notice."

It seems odds on that something capable of shifting the planet more noticeably than rather noticeable mag 9 quakes would be, well, noticed.

Has anyone checked out how the inuits make their seagull wine yet?

yuck

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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turbobloke said:
"But don't worry - you won't notice."

It seems odds on that something capable of shifting the planet more noticeably than rather noticeable mag 9 quakes would be, well, noticed.

Has anyone checked out how the inuits make their seagull wine yet?

yuck
Ludicrous - yes ludicrous - have we used that word enough recently? wink

2013BRM

39,731 posts

284 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Thing is these guys are pretty reliant on weather, its patterns and observing them, they also have absolutely no political agenda, so I believe em, more than any Politician or ex railway worker anyway

turbobloke

103,959 posts

260 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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2013BRM said:
Thing is these guys are pretty reliant on weather, its patterns and observing them, they also have absolutely no political agenda, so I believe em, more than any Politician or ex railway worker anyway
Lots of things are possible, but how probable?

As a general comment relating to well-meaining and honesty that belief sounds about right, but believing they've spotted some huge lurch in the planet's dynamics is stretching it a bit. The cover-up in establishment circles would be difficult to maintain, and it's not feasible for each of us to take high-precision measurements at the drop of a seagull in a bottle.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Drug induced superstitious beliefs don't mix well with accurate monitoring and reporting of scientific facts, but enough about the IPCC.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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2013BRM said:
Thing is these guys are pretty reliant on weather, its patterns and observing them, they also have absolutely no political agenda, so I believe em, more than any Politician or ex railway worker anyway
I thought the original lifestyle was somewhat nomadic which would mean there would be less consistency of sun rise and sunset positions (for those few weeks of the year when there are any) than might be ideal even for subjective measurements.

Now of course the "authorities" feel a need to look after these native peoples and so the nomadic part of their lives is somewhat diminished. Hence that story about the drowning village a week or so back. Building infrastructure, especially a landing strip ffs, on a land spit in an area that is subject to so many natural influences that I'm quite surprised it has lasted as long as it has.

Now, once the elders of the community are of an age where they probably don't have the experience of living off the "land" as they used to, and the kids maybe don't much feel like moving to an igloo they would need to learn new skills to keep the life giving funds rolling.

Maybe that's what we are seeing here. The development of fund seeking skills.

Or perhaps they are just taking the michael ... and having a laugh.

motco

15,958 posts

246 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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We'll all be murdered in our beds Minnie! Drowning is our fate
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