Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

[motco]

Ali G said:

LongQ said:

His wife is a committed greenie as I recall.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/97061...


He probably has to say the "right" things from time to time.

It is quite possible that she is slightly more off the wall than many of the more off the wall eco warriors in the wild.

You can take a horse to the water - but you can't make it drink.

Or: "You can take a we to culture, but you cannot make her think"

[wc98]

chris watton said:

I have been reading about this during the last couple of days. it will be interesting if more comes of this, or, as I suspect will happen, it will be quietly swept under the carpet to keep the gravy train rolling for the rest of them.

sad to say i think that is the way it will go.

[Jasandjules]

wc98 said:

sad to say i think that is the way it will go.

It would be nice if people kept it alive through twitter and facebook etc.. The more these bull**t merchants have their true colours shown, the less public support they will get (which I don't think is high anyway!)

[jshell]

Nice cooling process link on the Science thread for anyone interested...

[steveT350C]

'Of course the climate changes, politician says, but idea that humanity is contributing to it is ‘farcical and fanciful’

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/16...

[turbobloke]

jshell said:

Nice cooling process link on the Science thread for anyone interested...

Thanks for the heads-up.

[Mr GrimNasty]

Remember our last little fleeting 'kick the hornets nest visitor' who was so dismissive of my (and other's) suggestion that grant money was a motivator for perpetuating the dangerous man-made climate change myth.

Well this RICO saga is the glory hole mother load of proof!

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/30/rico20-4-mil...

[wc98]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Remember our last little fleeting 'kick the hornets nest visitor' who was so dismissive of my (and other's) suggestion that grant money was a motivator for perpetuating the dangerous man-made climate change myth.

Well this RICO saga is the glory hole mother load of proof!

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/30/rico20-4-mil...

aint it just ! the authorities in the states are usually into this kind of thing like rottweilers , will be interesting to see how much digging they do in this case.

[jshell]

turbobloke said:

jshell said:

Nice cooling process link on the Science thread for anyone interested...

Thanks for the heads-up.

Peasure...

[Jasandjules]

steveT350C said:

'Of course the climate changes, politician says, but idea that humanity is contributing to it is ‘farcical and fanciful’

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/16...

Well now if he was over here he would get my vote.

[Mr GrimNasty]

wc98 said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Remember our last little fleeting 'kick the hornets nest visitor' who was so dismissive of my (and other's) suggestion that grant money was a motivator for perpetuating the dangerous man-made climate change myth.

Well this RICO saga is the glory hole mother load of proof!

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/30/rico20-4-mil...

aint it just ! the authorities in the states are usually into this kind of thing like rottweilers , will be interesting to see how much digging they do in this case.

It's looks like about 10% of the $63Million grants since 2001 has found its way to Shukla and his family as 'pay'.

Holy st, over $5Million of taxpayer cash! Nice 'work' if you can get it.

[LongQ]

In the lead up to the meeting in Bonn that will set the scene for agreements in Paris (so some people hope) the "scientific" debate moves on to the size of the trough from which all should seek green sustenance.

Or should I have said the "political" debate move on to the size of the trough?

It's really not at all clear.

I suspect the players in the game prefer it that way.

Now, where to choose for the next pre-meeting and meetings after Paris.

Bonn and Paris in European Autumn .... so it should be somewhere nice and hot next time, right?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3441...

[mybrainhurts]

India wants $ trillions...

Milk it like you stole it, lads....

[wc98]

Mr GrimNasty said:

It's looks like about 10% of the $63Million grants since 2001 has found its way to Shukla and his family as 'pay'.

Holy st, over $5Million of taxpayer cash! Nice 'work' if you can get it.

yet they say climate scientists are not in it for the money .looks like the koch brothers and big oil are a drop in the ocean compared to the american taxpayer .

[robinessex]

I've a feeling the climate change scenario is going to rapidly disintegrate now countries are talking of $billions need from the developed countries (that's us), who have caused global warming !!!. India wants at least $100bn !!! But they can afford a space industry !!!! Nothing changes you quicker that someone else demanding money!

[turbobloke]

robinessex said:

I've a feeling the climate change scenario is going to rapidly disintegrate now countries are talking of $billions need from the developed countries (that's us), who have caused global warming !!!. India wants at least $100bn !!! But they can afford a space industry !!!! Nothing changes you quicker that someone else demanding money!

Sir Simon McDonald as Permanent Secretary at the Foreign Office has said that the Conservative “prosperity agenda” was now further up the list of areas on which his department was concentrating its meagre resources than ooman royts spending. In terms of the wider picture, and whether charity beginning at home is staging a comeback, make of that what you will...on balance it would seen true to form for CMD to create more prosperity then hand it over on the back of a myth-hoax. EU, India, RoW, he wouldn't be too choosy. Still, as we're such a rich country with no deficit or debt and only milk and honey on the horizon that's OK.

[LongQ]

Klimate change helps Angela Merkel to be considered for the Nobel Peace prize.

How's that?

Well, her views on taking in Syrian migrants are, apparently putting her in the frame.

Charloot Kirk, she who once had a voice for singing, reckons the Syrians are leaving Syria because of Klimate Change.

Thus Merkel's potential "Award" opportunity would have been the result of Klimate Change.

I wonder which country will take in all the Germans who decide to migrate as their homes are re-purposed for the use of others due to this Klimate Change phenomenon?

[turbobloke]

LongQ said:

Klimate change helps Angela Merkel to be considered for the Nobel Peace prize.

How's that?

Well, her views on taking in Syrian migrants are, apparently putting her in the frame.

Charloot Kirk, she who once had a voice for singing, reckons the Syrians are leaving Syria because of Klimate Change.

Thus Merkel's potential "Award" opportunity would have been the result of Klimate Change.

I wonder which country will take in all the Germans who decide to migrate as their homes are re-purposed for the use of others due to this Klimate Change phenomenon?

Captain James T Kirk was also once a Space Kadet.

[LongQ]

turbobloke said:

Captain James T Kirk was also once a Space Kadet.

Well, perhaps so, but he's a Canadian. (Apparently.)

[turbobloke]

LongQ said:

turbobloke said:

Captain James T Kirk was also once a Space Kadet.

Well, perhaps so, but he's a Canadian. (Apparently.)

Maybe he went to Church and everything changed.