Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Viner, viner, everywhere
It's on the ground, it's in my hair
But David Viner's straight and fair
With lots of global warming spare
He'll save us from this white nightmare
So glory be, and don't despair
As viner's banished from the air


Meanwhile, earlier today...you might want to save these, lest you forget what it looks like...smile












LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Viner, viner, everywhere
It's on the ground, it's in my hair
But David Viner's straight and fair
With lots of global warming spare
He'll save us from this white nightmare
So glory be, and don't despair
As viner's banished from the air


Meanwhile, earlier today...you might want to save these, lest you forget what it looks like...smile











Must've cost you a Princes fortune on TV set techs to set that lot up MBH.

Bravo.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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I just point my finger and it happens...hehe

turbobloke

103,915 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Jasandjules said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
It's hardly surprising that when the national and supposedly trustworthy broadcaster saturates it's coverage with bias and stories dishonestly linking the weather to climate change, they succeed in influencing opinion, is it?
Only if people are stupid. I hope that many people are not so stupid. Most people I know realise it is a load of bull**t to tax us more.
It's a sad fact of life, but most people's opinion is the last one they heard!
Which is good sometimes - take today for example. When visiting a client in a colleague's car I had the pleasure (!) of listening to Jeremy C F Vine (whom I would never, ever listen to out of choice) cover the minor earthquake story. Intro went something like "we in the UK don't get earthquakes" - yes we do - "they're not normal in this country" - yes they are. Instantly the word fracking came to mind, and it was only a matter of time...

Fortunately JCFV saved it for the last part of his shaky quaky piece which therefore as the last thing they heard, everyone will remember smile

He was interviewing a charming plummy lady academic. "So fracking can cause earthquakes...how big are they compared to this one?" after which his final guest went completely off-message with comments such as "much smaller" and "most people wouldn't notice" and then more about how, basically, fracking is safe, even a safety valve because "pressure that fracking will release is still there" so "there would be a quake at some point, only the timescale has changed".

Excellent: JCFV then stfu, temporarily.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
I just point my finger and it happens...hehe
Hmm.

In the light of some events not so far from you related to entertainers and weather forecasters .... I'm not sure that phrase should be allowed past the censors ...


Sorry.


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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Oh, bugger...

NO

turbobloke

103,915 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Viner, viner, everywhere...

Meanwhile, earlier today...you might want to save these, lest you forget what it looks like...smile
Being driven through a blizzard early this evening all I could think of was how rare and exciting this was, never seen it before, must be the global warming thingy.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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turbobloke said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Jasandjules said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
It's hardly surprising that when the national and supposedly trustworthy broadcaster saturates it's coverage with bias and stories dishonestly linking the weather to climate change, they succeed in influencing opinion, is it?
Only if people are stupid. I hope that many people are not so stupid. Most people I know realise it is a load of bull**t to tax us more.
It's a sad fact of life, but most people's opinion is the last one they heard!
Which is good sometimes - take today for example. When visiting a client in a colleague's car I had the pleasure (!) of listening to Jeremy C F Vine (whom I would never, ever listen to out of choice) cover the minor earthquake story. Intro went something like "we in the UK don't get earthquakes" - yes we do - "they're not normal in this country" - yes they are. Instantly the word fracking came to mind, and it was only a matter of time...

Fortunately JCFV saved it for the last part of his shaky quaky piece which therefore as the last thing they heard, everyone will remember smile

He was interviewing a charming plummy lady academic. "So fracking can cause earthquakes...how big are they compared to this one?" after which his final guest went completely off-message with comments such as "much smaller" and "most people wouldn't notice" and then more about how, basically, fracking is safe, even a safety valve because "pressure that fracking will release is still there" so "there would be a quake at some point, only the timescale has changed".

Excellent: JCFV then stfu, temporarily.
We're overdue an English Channel quake of about 6, that will knock some walls down, may even kill a few people, sod's law, it'll happen the day after they start a fracking operation.

turbobloke

103,915 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Mr GrimNasty said:
We're overdue an English Channel quake of about 6, that will knock some walls down, may even kill a few people, sod's law, it'll happen the day after they start a fracking operation.
No problem, if they start fracking in Texas and we get a quake epicentred near the channel - no link smile

turbobloke

103,915 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Looking to comply with the quoting ban issued by eybic...


After Obama's Visit, Hey Presclot: India Doubles Its Coal Output

There's a note in ET India on 29 January 2015 that Obama's visit has been followed by some interesting news relating to coal.


Desperate Dan Rides Again

Dr Benny Peiser gets a mention in Sun News TV on 27 January 2015, noting that it’s a sign of total desperation how Obama used flawed data to claim that 2014 was the hottest year on record as, obviously, that is not the case - even the UK Met Office has confirmed that it is impossible (statistically speaking) to say which of several years were warmer, or not, than other years given the size of the error bars involved and the minuscule differences in claimed temperatures.


Europe Makes $100 Billion Green Energy Mistake

Walter R Mead, writing in The American Interest on 22 January 2015, commented to the effect that - in great haste to install green energy resources at any cost - EU policymakers have deployed their beloved solar panels and wind turbines inefficiently, as it makes no sense to blanket the countryside with solar panels where the sun rarely shines, or to stick up windymills where an intermittent breeze is the order of the day. Mead opines that such green incompetence is one of the greatest threats to the future of our planet and an expensive mistake as Greens are simply wrong: dogma, dimwit policy planning and (NSS) corruption all rank among the biggest dangers facing humanity.

kingofdbrits

622 posts

193 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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turbobloke said:
Which is good sometimes - take today for example. When visiting a client in a colleague's car I had the pleasure (!) of listening to Jeremy C F Vine (whom I would never, ever listen to out of choice) cover the minor earthquake story. Intro went something like "we in the UK don't get earthquakes" - yes we do - "they're not normal in this country" - yes they are. Instantly the word fracking came to mind, and it was only a matter of time...

Fortunately JCFV saved it for the last part of his shaky quaky piece which therefore as the last thing they heard, everyone will remember smile

He was interviewing a charming plummy lady academic. "So fracking can cause earthquakes...how big are they compared to this one?" after which his final guest went completely off-message with comments such as "much smaller" and "most people wouldn't notice" and then more about how, basically, fracking is safe, even a safety valve because "pressure that fracking will release is still there" so "there would be a quake at some point, only the timescale has changed".

Excellent: JCFV then stfu, temporarily.
Was listening to Eamon Homes on Sky news this morning when he was talking to someone from the National Geologic Society and after talking about this earthquake tried sandbagging him about Fracking causing Earthquakes, his response was diplomatic that the UK has over 200 earthquakes every year and he has not seen any evidence that fracking has caused an Earthquake.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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"How can we believe in ‘global warming’ when the temperature records providing the ‘evidence’ for that warming cannot be trusted?"

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/30/forget-...

I know the link is a 'Right Wing' platform, but is the story true, have climate scientists really changed the original data to suit what they want it to show?

Jasandjules

69,883 posts

229 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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chris watton said:
"How can we believe in ‘global warming’ when the temperature records providing the ‘evidence’ for that warming cannot be trusted?"
Believe WHAT Data? They won't give out the raw data as a rule. Whyever could that be?

turbobloke

103,915 posts

260 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Obama Administration To Advise Vatican On Climate Change Ahead Of Encyclical As The Greening Of The Vatican Proceeds at Miraculous Pace

It looks as though Obama has fallen Head over Gaia in policy love with Pope Francis. EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy has told reporters that her current aim is to show how aligned President Obama and Pope Francis are on climate change. But our Gina is coy: “It’s certainly not my place to dictate to the Pope what he should be doing in an encyclical.” Peter Berger, writing in The American Interest (14 January 2015) reckons the greening of the Pope is part of a shift to the Left at the Vatican.

rovermorris999

5,201 posts

189 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Faith meets faith. A shame there's no hard evidence from either party.

carinaman

21,290 posts

172 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/29/look_into_...

I've never heard of him before. But I have met a dodgy GSD owner.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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carinaman said:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/29/look_into_...

I've never heard of him before. But I have met a dodgy GSD owner.
Look into my eyes, not between my lies, just into my eyes.

Jasandjules

69,883 posts

229 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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carinaman said:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/29/look_into_...

I've never heard of him before. But I have met a dodgy GSD owner.
Following the link to the US page - I love the audacity of someone saying that there will be more cold weather due to Global Warming.....

foreverdriving

1,869 posts

250 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Jasandjules said:
I love the audacity of someone saying that there will be more cold weather due to Global Warming.....
"The more things change, the more they stay the same." is a pretty apt summary of their global warming.

BGARK

5,494 posts

246 months

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