Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

TOPIC CLOSED
TOPIC CLOSED
Author
Discussion

Jasandjules

69,825 posts

228 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
quotequote all
LongQ said:
I see that the EU (allegedly) is introducing regulation to enforce another raft of electrical devices to be designed to shut down if they appear to be not in current use.
The EU's accountants?

The EU's anti fraud squad?



turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
quotequote all
Jasandjules said:
LongQ said:
I see that the EU (allegedly) is introducing regulation to enforce another raft of electrical devices to be designed to shut down if they appear to be not in current use.
The EU's accountants?

The EU's anti fraud squad?
Hasn't the EU cretinocracy removed all gonads from those groups? So you could be on the money - they are wink

No sign-off on years of accounts (still) and the report chapter on fraud actually in the EU itself - as opposed to member states - was blocked and remains unpublished.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
quotequote all
turbobloke said:
Jasandjules said:
LongQ said:
I see that the EU (allegedly) is introducing regulation to enforce another raft of electrical devices to be designed to shut down if they appear to be not in current use.
The EU's accountants?

The EU's anti fraud squad?
Hasn't the EU cretinocracy removed all gonads from those groups? So you could be on the money - they are wink

No sign-off on years of accounts (still) and the report chapter on fraud actually in the EU itself - as opposed to member states - was blocked and remains unpublished.
I think you're being a little unfair here. Neil Kinnock is on the case.....whistle

hidetheelephants

23,772 posts

192 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
quotequote all
mybrainhurts said:
I think you're being a little unfair here. Neil Kinnock is on the case.....whistle
That welsh gasbag was one of the quislings that fired Marta Andreasen for doing her job and probably had a hand in the persecution of Hans Martin Tillack.

perdu

4,884 posts

198 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
quotequote all
I'd turn HIM off

rovermorris999

5,195 posts

188 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
quotequote all

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
quotequote all
rovermorris999 said:


In the manner of the Air Asia Chief Executive Mr Fernandes, the operators may be about to issue a statement that climate change is making turbine management riskier, particularly in temperate zones.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
quotequote all
turbobloke said:


In the manner of the Air Asia Chief Executive Mr Fernandes, the operators may be about to issue a statement that climate change is making turbine management riskier, particularly in temperate zones.
Happy New Year everyone! hehe

LongQ

13,864 posts

232 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
quotequote all
turbobloke said:


In the manner of the Air Asia Chief Executive Mr Fernandes, the operators may be about to issue a statement that climate change is making turbine management riskier, particularly in temperate zones.
In that case we should, of course, stop using them immediately.

"If it saves one life ..... " etc., etc.

Otispunkmeyer

12,557 posts

154 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
Would go to the science thread but might get more response here.

Anyone got any links to decent research/views/data etc on renewables like wind, solar, hydro? I am trying to help a guy at work out who has to write about these things. The brief says he must have references for any facts/claims. Laughably the brief mentions green peace as one place to get info... so you can see which way the examiners wind blows.

But I thought I'd be helpful and get some balance in there.

I will have a look on various journal sites as I still have a working Athens log in to places like AJP, Science Direct, Elsevier etc.

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
Otispunkmeyer said:
Would go to the science thread but might get more response here.

Anyone got any links to decent research/views/data etc on renewables like wind, solar, hydro?
As a starter for ten, or even two, these links (below) to 'decent research' would appear to me to be important inclusions in the list.

http://bravenewclimate.com/2014/08/22/catch-22-of-...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_...


Otispunkmeyer

12,557 posts

154 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
is there a link to the one the 4 google employees did? Where they figured that in order to just support the current renewable infrastructure.... they'd have to continually build more renewable sources ad infinitum ?

WAIT! Its actually in your second link!

I was trying to remember where I'd seen it and it was posted somewhere on Twitter.

Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Monday 5th January 15:02

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
Otispunkmeyer said:
is there a link to the one the 4 google employees did? Where they figured that in order to just support the current renewable infrastructure.... they'd have to continually build more renewable sources ad infinitum ?

WAIT! Its actually in your second link!
yessmile

Once the work at those two links gets examined, there may be a reduced need for more!

AreOut

3,658 posts

160 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
well now they have science about why we don't believe in their science... yes there are a hockey stick, "97%" and many other amenities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2euBvdP28c

zygalski

7,759 posts

144 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
More purely coincidental nonsense from the Marxist BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3068...
2014 confirmed as UK's hottest year
Last year was the UK's warmest since records began in 1910, the Met Office has said.
It was also the warmest year in the Central England Temperature series, which dates back to 1659, and is the longest running record of its type.
The UK's mean temperature for the year was 9.9C - that is 0.2 degrees higher than the previous record set in 2006.
Last year's record means that eight of the UK's top ten warmest years have occurred since 2002

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
Guam said:
Briggsy on Real Climate

http://wmbriggs.com/blog/

rofl

"Everything that can go wrong with a time series analysis has gone wrong with the post “Recent global warming trends: significant or paused or what?” at Real Climate. So many classic mistakes are made that I hesitate to show them all. But it’ll be worth it to do so. Be sure to read to the end where I ascribe blame."
Awesome, but...He's too harsh on himself, no group of statisticians could hope to keep track with the nonsense visited on already corrupt near-surface data by true belief. Steve McIntyre now looks older than his years for trying and he like Briggs does a damned good job.

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
zygalski said:
More purely coincidental nonsense from the Marxist BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3068...
2014 confirmed as UK's hottest year
Last year was the UK's warmest since records began in 1910, the Met Office has said.
It was also the warmest year in the Central England Temperature series, which dates back to 1659, and is the longest running record of its type.
The UK's mean temperature for the year was 9.9C - that is 0.2 degrees higher than the previous record set in 2006.
Last year's record means that eight of the UK's top ten warmest years have occurred since 2002
They got something wrong and missed the last line...most unlike the Beeb wink

Last line:
'None of this involves any established causality to any activity or emission from such activity on the part of mankind'.

Error:
In no way at all have eight of the UK's top ten warmest years (an unqualified statement) occurred in the last 12 years.

At least the worthlessness of the information will be clear to many on PH.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
zygalski said:
More purely coincidental nonsense from the Marxist BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3068...
2014 confirmed as UK's hottest year
Last year was the UK's warmest since records began in 1910, the Met Office has said.
It was also the warmest year in the Central England Temperature series, which dates back to 1659, and is the longest running record of its type.
The UK's mean temperature for the year was 9.9C - that is 0.2 degrees higher than the previous record set in 2006.
Last year's record means that eight of the UK's top ten warmest years have occurred since 2002
Excellent news, now's the time to invest in Kentish vineyards.

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
Guam said:
Delingpole on the PH scam (and I am not talking about these hallowed halls) smile

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/23/noaagat...
Another nail in the coffin, which found no room and had to go through the head of another nail.

You're probably aware that the above 'pHraud' was posted on here a few days ago but, if not, it's not my pint this time wink

Beati Dogu

8,862 posts

138 months

Monday 5th January 2015
quotequote all
Another bird shredder collapses. This one in light winds in Northern Ireland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-3067...
TOPIC CLOSED
TOPIC CLOSED