Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3
Discussion
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/21/la...
Oh, my good god...
Oh, my good god...
Grauniad said:
Ed Miliband is bringing the former deputy prime minister, John Prescott, back into frontline politics only months before May’s general election.
In a controversial move, the Labour leader has appointed Lord Prescott as his personal adviser with specific responsibility for climate change. His remit, according to aides, is to “bash heads together”.
The Red Baron rides again....In a controversial move, the Labour leader has appointed Lord Prescott as his personal adviser with specific responsibility for climate change. His remit, according to aides, is to “bash heads together”.
It has occurred to me that this may not be to do with CC at all.
All parties have agreed that they are going to attempt to bankrupt the country anyway so where is the gain?
On the other hand putting Presclot on the ground waffling unintelligibly about something politically non-controversial might satisfy the older old school labour supporters whilst at the same time making Minibrand and his team sound like almost competent and erudite politicians.
Apart from that .... well, it's a huge joke really. Maybe they could get the lady from Basingstoke back as his PA to keep the slapstick idea running.
It's big news on the BBC web site though. I wonder why?
All parties have agreed that they are going to attempt to bankrupt the country anyway so where is the gain?
On the other hand putting Presclot on the ground waffling unintelligibly about something politically non-controversial might satisfy the older old school labour supporters whilst at the same time making Minibrand and his team sound like almost competent and erudite politicians.
Apart from that .... well, it's a huge joke really. Maybe they could get the lady from Basingstoke back as his PA to keep the slapstick idea running.
It's big news on the BBC web site though. I wonder why?
mybrainhurts said:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/21/la...
Oh, my good god...
Just what's needed to bring Ed some credibility. A 77 year old underachieving fOh, my good god...
Grauniad said:
Ed Miliband is bringing the former deputy prime minister, John Prescott, back into frontline politics only months before May’s general election.
In a controversial move, the Labour leader has appointed Lord Prescott as his personal adviser with specific responsibility for climate change. His remit, according to aides, is to “bash heads together”.
The Red Baron rides again....In a controversial move, the Labour leader has appointed Lord Prescott as his personal adviser with specific responsibility for climate change. His remit, according to aides, is to “bash heads together”.
kwit. What is he thinking? Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 22 February 02:35
Labour Luvvie Lord Donoughue said:
For Ed Miliband, who is not a bad or stupid man, but coming from a Marxist heritage, when asked for more vision, he grasps climate change like a drowning man clasping a lifebelt.
Ed must see the man who dismissed shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna as 'Chumbawamba' at a Labour Party conference event as part of the lifebelt, the bit with pies on it.
A reasonable sample of UK media coverage this morning shows they're taking this joke involving the appointment of a joke to a joke role seriously.
If more proof was ever needed that climate policy has nothing whatsoever to do with science and rational thought, and that media coverage of climate is as useless and dodgy as climate models, this is it.
If more proof was ever needed that climate policy has nothing whatsoever to do with science and rational thought, and that media coverage of climate is as useless and dodgy as climate models, this is it.
REALIST123 said:
Just what's needed to bring Ed some credibility. A 77 year old underachieving fkwit. What is he thinking?
Red Ed obviously decided to employ someone whos a tad brighter than he is and a sight fatter.kwit. What is he thinking? Edited by REALIST123 on Sunday 22 February 02:35
I cant imagine the amount of climate change prescott causes when he farts, now theyre going to let him talk for them as well.
Oh. Goody.
turbobloke said:
A reasonable sample of UK media coverage this morning shows they're taking this joke involving the appointment of a joke to a joke role seriously.
If more proof was ever needed that climate policy has nothing whatsoever to do with science and rational thought, and that media coverage of climate is as useless and dodgy as climate models, this is it.
this is the same Prescott that was at Kyoto, then some years later said:If more proof was ever needed that climate policy has nothing whatsoever to do with science and rational thought, and that media coverage of climate is as useless and dodgy as climate models, this is it.
"suspend the Kyoto protocol"
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/dec/02...
It's funny isn't it, but if the 'raw' data adjustment issue wasn't a sore point, why is this entire skeptical science rebuttal just a string of insults and assertions, somewhat short of hard facts! And a tiny unclear unverifiable graph, if you actually look hard, does actually confirm that the vast majority of data, that for Europe and America, has been cooled historically and latterly warmed.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/19/fox_news_has_no_sh...
And this doesn't even begin to address many other things that will introduce a warming bias to the data set, like removing historically cold stations, and interpolating new data.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/19/fox_news_has_no_sh...
And this doesn't even begin to address many other things that will introduce a warming bias to the data set, like removing historically cold stations, and interpolating new data.
Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Monday 23 February 11:14
It's still unclear! Lack of information etc.
There have also been several long term trials of old v new temperature measurement instruments side by side and the electronics register 0.7-0.93C more on average than the old thermometers! Makes the bias even worse.
There have also been several long term trials of old v new temperature measurement instruments side by side and the electronics register 0.7-0.93C more on average than the old thermometers! Makes the bias even worse.
Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Monday 23 February 13:39
plunker said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
It's still unclear! Lack of information etc.
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Seems clear enough to me - the net effect of all land adjustments (black line) is ...unexciting.[/footnote]
In passing, what is the metadata referred to and how exactly was it used?
turbobloke said:
plunker said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
It's still unclear! Lack of information etc.
[/footnote]
Seems clear enough to me - the net effect of all land adjustments (black line) is ...unexciting.[/footnote]
The net effect of all adjustments = not quotable.
plunker said:
turbobloke said:
plunker said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
It's still unclear! Lack of information etc.
[/footnote]
Seems clear enough to me - the net effect of all land adjustments (black line) is ...unexciting.[/footnote]
The net effect of all adjustments = not quotable.
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