Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Good point...hehe

Silver Smudger

3,299 posts

167 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Andrew Griffin of The Independent hears about an impending solar eclipse and becomes almost hysterical over how we will manage without solar power during a short, partial eclipse!

turbobloke

103,956 posts

260 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Wow.

Well...If he bangs his head on an old-fashioned dustbin lid repeatedly at the start of the eclipse then the noise may scare the sky serpent away from the Sun quicker.

It might also knock some sense into him.

You have to wonder if he becomes apoplectic if he sees widely spaced isobars.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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turbobloke said:
You have to wonder if he becomes apoplectic if he sees widely spaced isobars.
It's the effect of cutting and pasting other people's press releases.

Here is the Mail's take on it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2966822/So...

There is a section in orange near the end that sort of discusses what effects some European operators may experience.

For discussions about the viability of solar panels this is, perhaps, interesting.

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Silver Smudger said:
Andrew Griffin of The Independent hears about an impending solar eclipse and becomes almost hysterical over how we will manage without solar power during a short, partial eclipse!
Doesn't the sun 'go out' every day? ie night time?

How on earth will the National Grid cope? nuts

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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V88Dicky said:
Doesn't the sun 'go out' every day? ie night time?

How on earth will the National Grid cope? nuts
Diesel generators.

Blib

44,108 posts

197 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Prince Charles has stuck his oar in speaking to Health professionals at the Royal Society. Apparently, the world is dying due to MMGW. They must highlight this to their patients.

May Her Maj live for a thousand years.

turbobloke

103,956 posts

260 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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LongQ said:
turbobloke said:
You have to wonder if he becomes apoplectic if he sees widely spaced isobars.
It's the effect of cutting and pasting other people's press releases.

Here is the Mail's take on it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2966822/So...

There is a section in orange near the end that sort of discusses what effects some European operators may experience.

For discussions about the viability of solar panels this is, perhaps, interesting.
The astonishing thing is that anybody should have any reaction to any solar eclipe as though they had never been encountered. You also wonder why this particular hack wasn't bursting a minor blood vessel or two during previous eclipses which occurred after the first solar farms appeared ca 2008 including in europe.

turbobloke

103,956 posts

260 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Blib said:
Prince Charles has stuck his oar in speaking to Health professionals at the Royal Society. Apparently, the world is dying due to MMGW. They must highlight this to their patients.

May Her Maj live for a thousand years.
And they won't. HRH is a menace, he should be seen by his GP.

Yes and immortality would be good wink

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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turbobloke said:
Blib said:
Prince Charles has stuck his oar in speaking to Health professionals at the Royal Society. Apparently, the world is dying due to MMGW. They must highlight this to their patients.

May Her Maj live for a thousand years.
And they won't. HRH is a menace, he should be seen by his GP.
If he had his Porritt amputated, his mental faculties might recover.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Blib said:
Prince Charles has stuck his oar in speaking to Health professionals at the Royal Society. Apparently, the world is dying due to MMGW. They must highlight this to their patients.

May Her Maj live for a thousand years.
Surely he should donate Highgrove or his place in London to the local authorities in order to solve the housing crisis?

It would help of course if anyone over the age of, say, 67 offered to shuffle off the mortal coil.

Were that to be the case the country, free of the shackles of most pensions (by 2020) and old age health care could become a formidable financial powerhouse whilst clearly doing its bit to sequester as much CO2 as possible as "carbon" consumption is dramatically reduced overnight.

Might have a few problems with landfill laws but I'm sure there are a few MPs who can fix them for a large fee.

Here's another cost saving scheme that I'm sure Charlie would find interesting.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/25/as...



Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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LongQ said:
Diesel generators.
Isn't that what the spanish did? Solar farms generating electricity at night I seem to recall.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Otispunkmeyer said:
LongQ said:
Diesel generators.
Isn't that what the spanish did? Solar farms generating electricity at night I seem to recall.
So the story goes.

I think there days the UK STOR system for backup generation may be even more generously provided for. A small field of generators set up somewhere does not even have to produce anything to attract payment (so I understand) and it called into action gets a good rate per unit.

The enormous new M&S distribution warehouse has constant overnight lighting around it - presumably because it operates 24/7 and has frequent shift changes. If the clouds are lowish (hardly ever of course in the UK ....) the night often seems as bright as day.

There is a rumour that they are going to cover the roof with solar panels. It has me wondering if they could in fact generate at night from the surrounding light. Thinking in a somewhat absurd way .... if the incoming overnight "industrial" tariff was low and the "solar" tariff high there might be a margin to be made ...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershir...



mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/windp...

Has anyone worked out how to impeach the government and Ed Miliband (especially Ed Miliband) for gross negligence in promoting the deaths of thousands of British subjects over the next fifteen years?

Is it a hanging offence? It should be.

And let's have the troughers, who are sucking it up, in the stocks while we're at it.


turbobloke

103,956 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/windp...

Has anyone worked out how to impeach the government and Ed Miliband (especially Ed Miliband) for gross negligence in promoting the deaths of thousands of British subjects over the next fifteen years?

Is it a hanging offence? It should be.

And let's have the troughers, who are sucking it up, in the stocks while we're at it.
That's a costly shambles, appalling but not unusual given who was involved, but the article didn't even notice that these expensive white elephants can do naff all about climate change. Too much rolling over in the ignorant mainstream media still.

turbobloke

103,956 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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turbobloke said:
This is the line that does it for me:

"The sheer illusion of human self-importance is hilarious. The fact we have been using toilet bowls for a while and can use smartphones to order pizza, possibly while in the toilet, does not make us any smarter when it comes to understanding the hugely complex ecosystems like an entire bloody planet, influenced by another half a million cosmic events every now and then."

Too true.

We are insignificant. Especially in the temporal sense. I suspect many also just cannot comprehend the complexity and energy of our earth.


steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Otispunkmeyer said:
turbobloke said:
This is the line that does it for me:

"The sheer illusion of human self-importance is hilarious. The fact we have been using toilet bowls for a while and can use smartphones to order pizza, possibly while in the toilet, does not make us any smarter when it comes to understanding the hugely complex ecosystems like an entire bloody planet, influenced by another half a million cosmic events every now and then."

Too true.

We are insignificant. Especially in the temporal sense. I suspect many also just cannot comprehend the complexity and energy of our earth.
Reminds me of the 'fact' that the world's population can fit on the Isle of White, hence insignificant.

Using very basic maths, and assuming one human standing up occupies 1 square foot, I calculated 1.5 Isle of Whites.


motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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steveT350C said:
Reminds me of the 'fact' that the world's population can fit on the Isle of White, hence insignificant.

Using very basic maths, and assuming one human standing up occupies 1 square foot, I calculated 1.5 Isle of Whites.
If the tide is out they'll probably fit. smile

steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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motco said:
steveT350C said:
Reminds me of the 'fact' that the world's population can fit on the Isle of White, hence insignificant.

Using very basic maths, and assuming one human standing up occupies 1 square foot, I calculated 1.5 Isle of Whites.
If the tide is out they'll probably fit. smile
'The world's population can fit onto the Isle of White when the tide is out'.

Sorted! smile

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