Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

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robinessex

11,065 posts

182 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Private Eye has just discovered some CC bks !! Old Sparky, “Keeping The Light On” article, Issue 1420, has just discovered that Biomass plants CO2 claims are complete bks, and that, surprise, surprise, the Biomass Industry is allowed to regulate themselves !!! I duly sent them a link to this Forum Topic.

Jasandjules

69,931 posts

230 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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robinessex said:
Private Eye has just discovered some CC bks !! Old Sparky, “Keeping The Light On” article, Issue 1420, has just discovered that Biomass plants CO2 claims are complete bks, and that, surprise, surprise, the Biomass Industry is allowed to regulate themselves !!! I duly sent them a link to this Forum Topic.
That is odd as they are generally pro AGW IIRC?

robinessex

11,065 posts

182 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Jasandjules said:
robinessex said:
Private Eye has just discovered some CC bks !! Old Sparky, “Keeping The Light On” article, Issue 1420, has just discovered that Biomass plants CO2 claims are complete bks, and that, surprise, surprise, the Biomass Industry is allowed to regulate themselves !!! I duly sent them a link to this Forum Topic.
That is odd as they are generally pro AGW IIRC?
Seem to be relenting. Not the first anti CC bit they've slipped in. They pointed a suspect finger at COP21 a few isuses ago. I duly e-mail them when they do, and suggest they take an interest in this scandal. Maybe it's working?

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

171 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Good news, world record fossil fuel consumption, increase 2.6 times 'renewables' increase. wink



http://www.thegwpf.com/world-sets-new-record-for-f...

Good news, because people aren't starving or dying from cold as much, which is the opposite of what the 'greens' want.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

171 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Delingpole - holy crap, I think he needed sedating after writing this windmill piece!

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/great-b...

turbobloke

104,014 posts

261 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Probably hyperventilating, insufficient carbon dioxide.

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vournikas

11,715 posts

205 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Delingpole - holy crap, I think he needed sedating after writing this windmill piece!

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/great-b...
My. Word.

JD in full irascible mode.

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Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Dellers should cover this tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEhS9Y9HYjU

robinessex

11,065 posts

182 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Delingpole - holy crap, I think he needed sedating after writing this windmill piece!

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/great-b...
Link sent to Old Sparky at PE

jet_noise

5,655 posts

183 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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vournikas said:
My. Word.

JD in full irascible mode.

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Indeed up to 11 smile

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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Good shot, Dellers...hehe

Ali G

3,526 posts

283 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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Never was so much owed by so many to so few for so little.

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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[i]Tony Blair

Well obviously. Almost everything that is wrong with the world can be traced, ultimately, to Tony Blair.[/i]

biglaugh

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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vournikas said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Delingpole - holy crap, I think he needed sedating after writing this windmill piece!

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/great-b...
My. Word.

JD in full irascible mode.

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I liked this bit so much that I am going to repost it here:-

"Huhne’s a perjuring spiv and jailbird; Davey’s thick as pigst; Clegg is a revoltingly entitled, Westminster educated slimeball of a Euro creep."

I do wish that I had Delingpole's command of the English language.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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don4l said:
vournikas said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Delingpole - holy crap, I think he needed sedating after writing this windmill piece!

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/great-b...
My. Word.

JD in full irascible mode.

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I liked this bit so much that I am going to repost it here:-

"Huhne’s a perjuring spiv and jailbird; Davey’s thick as pigst; Clegg is a revoltingly entitled, Westminster educated slimeball of a Euro creep."

I do wish that I had Delingpole's command of the English language.
Was that stupid bint Rudd mentioned???

turbobloke

104,014 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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powerstroke said:
don4l said:
vournikas said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Delingpole - holy crap, I think he needed sedating after writing this windmill piece!

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/great-b...
My. Word.

JD in full irascible mode.

thumbup
I liked this bit so much that I am going to repost it here:-

"Huhne’s a perjuring spiv and jailbird; Davey’s thick as pigst; Clegg is a revoltingly entitled, Westminster educated slimeball of a Euro creep."

I do wish that I had Delingpole's command of the English language.
Was that stupid bint Rudd mentioned???
IIRC she escaped this time, in that I can't remember reading her name. Memories are fallible though...

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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A positive spin on the problems of intermittency from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36516585

Another connector to France!

So, what if the french close down a large part of their Nuclear fleet if Germany tells them to? Or because they decided to go "free Wind"?

£1.1 billion cost to go 150 miles (is the channel getting wider?). Is that a bargain?

If so, why does it take a Ukrainian business owner fronted by a (bought and paid for?) Lord some-one-or-other to make the investment? Is it really just some form of Money Laundering?

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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LongQ said:
A positive spin on the problems of intermittency from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36516585

Another connector to France!

So, what if the french close down a large part of their Nuclear fleet if Germany tells them to? Or because they decided to go "free Wind"?

£1.1 billion cost to go 150 miles (is the channel getting wider?). Is that a bargain?

If so, why does it take a Ukrainian business owner fronted by a (bought and paid for?) Lord some-one-or-other to make the investment? Is it really just some form of Money Laundering?
It is a commercial bet on the fact that we will need energy due to the ludicrous energy policy of successive governments and that therefore they can invest and make lots of money.


mondeoman

11,430 posts

267 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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loafer123 said:
LongQ said:
A positive spin on the problems of intermittency from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36516585

Another connector to France!

So, what if the french close down a large part of their Nuclear fleet if Germany tells them to? Or because they decided to go "free Wind"?

£1.1 billion cost to go 150 miles (is the channel getting wider?). Is that a bargain?

If so, why does it take a Ukrainian business owner fronted by a (bought and paid for?) Lord some-one-or-other to make the investment? Is it really just some form of Money Laundering?
It is a commercial bet on the fact that we will need energy due to the ludicrous energy policy of successive governments and that therefore they can invest and make lots of money.
^^^^ This, in spades

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

171 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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loafer123 said:
LongQ said:
A positive spin on the problems of intermittency from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36516585

Another connector to France!

So, what if the french close down a large part of their Nuclear fleet if Germany tells them to? Or because they decided to go "free Wind"?

£1.1 billion cost to go 150 miles (is the channel getting wider?). Is that a bargain?

If so, why does it take a Ukrainian business owner fronted by a (bought and paid for?) Lord some-one-or-other to make the investment? Is it really just some form of Money Laundering?
It is a commercial bet on the fact that we will need energy due to the ludicrous energy policy of successive governments and that therefore they can invest and make lots of money.
France is closing coal capacity and intends to limit nuclear to 50% of production, and has connectors with at least 6 other EU countries (all net export from France by a large margin).

So French nuclear is almost single-handed keeping the EU lights on, helping compensate for bad energy policy decisions everywhere.

Of course there'll be little spare capacity in France soon..........

I see UK windmills have made a negligible contribution for 19 of the last 23 days, and not a great deal on the other 4 - why no headlines in the press/BBC!

Another oddity, France is sending UK 2GW, but UK is receiving 1.5GW - Is that transmission loss or an error in the data?

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