Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

[Jasandjules]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Their fraud is exposed when the 'pips start to squeak' and they back off to maintain their revenue - as with fuel duty - if the aim were to save the world, they would rejoice that people were being forced to give up driving, but that's not actually what they want, they just want to tax us more for the privilege.

Indeed. If it were really about saving the whole world, we'd have armies sitting in South America and Indonesia/Burma/Madagascar etc protecting the trees from deforestation.... Not in Iraq/Afghanistan protecting oil..

[Ali G]

Who are 'they'?

The gubbermunt, the greenies, the eco-loons, the EU, the bankers, the glitterati?



Pretty much all of the above I guess (and more).

Perhaps 'climate wang' is perceived as being a less painful mechanism to raise funds (after all, who would not want to part with dosh to save the planet?)

And funds - they certainly need to be raised!

[Ali G]

It must be, however, a very inefficient revenue gathering exercise, since the 'overheads' are massive.



Surely this is not simply a grotesque political popularity contest - at the expense of the joe/josephine public?



That would be bonkers!

[TheExcession]

Sorry for off topic.

TB, would you ping me your email.
Thanks

[turbobloke]

TheExcession said:

Sorry for off topic.

TB, would you ping me your email.
Thanks

Hi Ex

Pinged as requested

[turbobloke]

Apparently it's Earth Hour tonight, aka lighting up time.

[Jasandjules]

turbobloke said:

Apparently it's Earth Hour tonight, aka lighting up time.

I have already written on the WWF page that I won't be turning off the lights as the Earth's climate is driven by the sun.....

[turbobloke]

Guam said:

turbobloke said:

Apparently it's Earth Hour tonight, aka lighting up time.

Don't worry I will turn every light in my house on to help balance the load in the grid

You won't be alone, illumination matters!

[mybrainhurts]

turbobloke said:

Guam said:

turbobloke said:

Apparently it's Earth Hour tonight, aka lighting up time.

Don't worry I will turn every light in my house on to help balance the load in the grid

You won't be alone, illumination matters!

I'll lend a hand, too. Might even go for a celebratory blast over the moors...

[turbobloke]

mybrainhurts said:

turbobloke said:

Guam said:

turbobloke said:

Apparently it's Earth Hour tonight, aka lighting up time.

Don't worry I will turn every light in my house on to help balance the load in the grid

You won't be alone, illumination matters!

I'll lend a hand, too. Might even go for a celebratory blast over the moors...

Some people are willing to call it as it is and write about it:

Earth Hour is a colossal waste of time as we need more electricity not less

[4v6]

WWF can go screw themselves with a hammer drill.

I think it should be mandatory to light up the skies at night usinmg wwf and greenpeace members as fuel on a large bonfire....

But then I would say that.

[mybrainhurts]

4v6 said:

WWF can go screw themselves with a hammer drill.

Sad how the WWF has been hijacked.

WWF = World Wide Fraud.

[chris watton]

"The Desecration of Devon: The Duchess of Cornwall's son-in-law has just built this 50-acre solar farm. And through green levies on your power bills, YOU are paying for it... £430,000 every year"

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[turbobloke]

chris watton said:

"The Desecration of Devon: The Duchess of Cornwall's son-in-law has just built this 50-acre solar farm. And through green levies on your power bills, YOU are paying for it... £430,000 every year"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016115/Th...
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Redistribution of wealth, lovely

[jurbie]

chris watton said:

"The Desecration of Devon: The Duchess of Cornwall's son-in-law has just built this 50-acre solar farm. And through green levies on your power bills, YOU are paying for it... £430,000 every year"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016115/Th...
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I thought the subsidies for large scale solar had been binned yet I've seen quite a few solar factories crop up recently? Am I mistaken regarding the subsidy or are these pre-subsidy cut but have taken a while to get through planning?

[Mr GrimNasty]

They're 'limiting' (read that how you will) the subsidies from April this year I think, hence the mad dash to bring as many on line as possible at the moment.

[Scuffers]

Apparently tidal pools will make 20% of the UK's needs....

(Countryfile)

[hidetheelephants]

Scuffers said:

Apparently tidal pools will make 20% of the UK's needs....

(Countryfile)

And only cost the same as enough nukes to provide 60%; what a bargain!

[steveatesh]

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2015/3/27/t...

A documentary made by skeptics which according to BishopHill is pretty good.
I have not had time to watch it myself yet but may be a good watch.

[Mr GrimNasty]

Interesting report on Malaria etc. (inc. in the UK) historically, and it's dependence (or lack of) on warmth.

http://ottoknot.home.xs4all.nl/werk/Malaria.html