Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

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turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Pesty said:
A study by scientists at Germany’s Max Planck Institute for Meteorology found that man-made aerosols had a much smaller cooling effect on the atmosphere during the 20th Century than was previously thought. Why is this big news? It means increases in carbon dioxide emissions likely cause less warming than most climate models suggest.


http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/31/scientists-say-n...
Thanks for the link. With no room left on the MMGW coffin for nails and where the existing nails already have smaller nails hammered into them, this can be glued on top.

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Pesty said:
A study by scientists at Germany’s Max Planck Institute for Meteorology found that man-made aerosols had a much smaller cooling effect on the atmosphere during the 20th Century than was previously thought. Why is this big news? It means increases in carbon dioxide emissions likely cause less warming than most climate models suggest.


http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/31/scientists-say-n...
So good news then. I expect to see the headlines on the BBC news rejoicing that we aren't going to fry and can relax and bin green taxes. Or not.
More likely is:
the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology is a hotbed of deniers and/or is funded by Big Oil;
the heat is going somewhere else;
la-la-la not listening.

Jasandjules

69,889 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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turbobloke said:
Causality simply asserted with no evidence whatsoever.
Should you not write to them and advise that archaic buildings with poor insulation really should be demolished to save the CO2 and most certainly people should be prevented from travelling to them which clearly raises more CO2. Thus, they should in effect close their own business down for the sake of the planet if what they say is true.

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Jasandjules said:
turbobloke said:
Causality simply asserted with no evidence whatsoever.
Should you not write to them and advise that archaic buildings with poor insulation really should be demolished to save the CO2 and most certainly people should be prevented from travelling to them which clearly raises more CO2. Thus, they should in effect close their own business down for the sake of the planet if what they say is true.
Apart from closing down hehe already done smile

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Greenpeas survey backfires - 42% support fracking, 35% oppose.

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Greenpeas survey backfires - 42% support fracking, 35% oppose.
Yay

tomw2000

2,508 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Almost on topic: Frankie Boyle's tweet to Richard Branson - after Branson's recent 'climate change' tweets is ace.

Albeit not safe for work. wink

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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tomw2000 said:
Almost on topic: Frankie Boyle's tweet to Richard Branson - after Branson's recent 'climate change' tweets is ace.

Albeit not safe for work. wink
Quite so. For those still not aware, after some right-on emoting from Branson over ice (no whisky) the line was: "You own an airline you mad ccensoredt".

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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turbobloke said:
tomw2000 said:
Almost on topic: Frankie Boyle's tweet to Richard Branson - after Branson's recent 'climate change' tweets is ace.

Albeit not safe for work. wink
Quite so. For those still not aware, after some right-on emoting from Branson over ice (no whisky) the line was: "You own an airline you mad ccensoredt".
Even more pointless is the "space travel for people with more money than sense" business.

Well, it might be acceptable I suppose if some of them went for the long distance trip. Preferably a very long distance.

Blib

44,075 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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LongQ said:
Even more pointless is the "space travel for people with more money than sense" business.

Well, it might be acceptable I suppose if some of them went for the long distance trip. Preferably a very long distance.
Two years ago, I happened to share a helicopter flight from Vegas over the Grand Canyon with a chap who claimed to be signed up as the second paying passenger on Virgin Galactic. He even wore a Virgin Galactic baseball jacket.

An American in his early fifties, he was an absolute . Really, really obnoxious. Really, really loud. He was also clueless, trying to hand the pilot his camera to take a photo of the Hoover dam as we flew by. The pilot pointed out that he needed both hands to fly the aircraft.

At the end of the flight, his blonde, trophy wife scurried over to apologise for her cretinous husband's behaviour. "No problem whatsoever," replied Mrs Blib, "We're not unfortunate enough to be married to him."

I remember googling his name afterwards and he was on the VG list that was published at the time.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Blib said:
Two years ago, I happened to share a helicopter flight from Vegas over the Grand Canyon with a chap who claimed to be signed up as the second paying passenger on Virgin Galactic. He even wore a Virgin Galactic baseball jacket.

An American in his early fifties, he was an absolute . Really, really obnoxious. Really, really loud. He was also clueless, trying to hand the pilot his camera to take a photo of the Hoover dam as we flew by. The pilot pointed out that he needed both hands to fly the aircraft.

At the end of the flight, his blonde, trophy wife scurried over to apologise for her cretinous husband's behaviour. "No problem whatsoever," replied Mrs Blib, "We're not unfortunate enough to be married to him."

I remember googling his name afterwards and he was on the VG list that was published at the time.
This list?

http://www.agent4stars.com/virgin-galactic-passeng...


There are some choice names on it.

Blib

44,075 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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TBH, I googled the chap's name at the time - 2013, and it appeared on the list. Scanning that link, I've no idea which one of them he was. Though, I know that he wasn't Brad Pitt. smile

ETA: I've just noticed that Michael Schumacher is number 48. frown

Edited by Blib on Thursday 2nd April 17:18

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Blib said:
TBH, I googled the chap's name at the time - 2013, and it appeared on the list. Scanning that link, I've no idea which one of them he was. Though, I know that he wasn't Brad Pitt. smile
Was he Angelina Jolie?

Blib

44,075 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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LongQ said:
Blib said:
TBH, I googled the chap's name at the time - 2013, and it appeared on the list. Scanning that link, I've no idea which one of them he was. Though, I know that he wasn't Brad Pitt. smile
Was he Angelina Jolie?
Yes. Yes, I believe that he was.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Blib said:
LongQ said:
Blib said:
TBH, I googled the chap's name at the time - 2013, and it appeared on the list. Scanning that link, I've no idea which one of them he was. Though, I know that he wasn't Brad Pitt. smile
Was he Angelina Jolie?
Yes. Yes, I believe that he was.
Was it Allison Moyet, sound's just like him!

Blib

44,075 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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chris watton said:
Blib said:
LongQ said:
Blib said:
TBH, I googled the chap's name at the time - 2013, and it appeared on the list. Scanning that link, I've no idea which one of them he was. Though, I know that he wasn't Brad Pitt. smile
Was he Angelina Jolie?
Yes. Yes, I believe that he was.
Was it Allison Moyet, sound's just like him!
Yes. That was him too.

hidetheelephants

24,350 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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turbobloke said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Greenpeas survey backfires - 42% support fracking, 35% oppose.
Yay
Double yay.

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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In another thread andymadmak said:
when politics merges with religious style belief in the nonsensical, in the face of all evidence then the truth is of little use or benefit
yes

mko9

2,361 posts

212 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Jasandjules said:
turbobloke said:
Causality simply asserted with no evidence whatsoever.
Should you not write to them and advise that archaic buildings with poor insulation really should be demolished to save the CO2 and most certainly people should be prevented from travelling to them which clearly raises more CO2. Thus, they should in effect close their own business down for the sake of the planet if what they say is true.
No! All the demolition equipment would emit gobs of CO2, same for all the lorries that would have to haul the remains off to the tip somewhere. Best to just abandon it all and let it become overgrown with weeds and ivy and whatnot, then fall in on itself.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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mko9 said:
Jasandjules said:
turbobloke said:
Causality simply asserted with no evidence whatsoever.
Should you not write to them and advise that archaic buildings with poor insulation really should be demolished to save the CO2 and most certainly people should be prevented from travelling to them which clearly raises more CO2. Thus, they should in effect close their own business down for the sake of the planet if what they say is true.
No! All the demolition equipment would emit gobs of CO2, same for all the lorries that would have to haul the remains off to the tip somewhere. Best to just abandon it all and let it become overgrown with weeds and ivy and whatnot, then fall in on itself.
Exactly.

The next Ice Age will finish the job. In fact when it arrives it will make all of the prior maintenance effort completely pointless.

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