Is Cameron a chicken?
Poll: Is Cameron a chicken?
Total Members Polled: 448
Discussion
Yazar said:
Greg66 said:
I could not give a f
k what Ofcom says. A party with two MPs, and limited prospects of improving on that number in May, is not a "major party" no matter how much one squeezes one's eyes shut and wishes hard.
I want to hear - and I want others to hear - what the leaders of the parties who have genuine prospects of forming the next Government have to say for themselves.
Farage is not in that group. By a country mile.
So rather than accepting a decision made by examining the same criterias that are set for all parties, you think you know best.k what Ofcom says. A party with two MPs, and limited prospects of improving on that number in May, is not a "major party" no matter how much one squeezes one's eyes shut and wishes hard. I want to hear - and I want others to hear - what the leaders of the parties who have genuine prospects of forming the next Government have to say for themselves.
Farage is not in that group. By a country mile.
Instead of throwing your toys out of the pram, why don't you go and read the actual reasoning on the Ofcom site and then say exactly what you see wrong with them?
gregf40 said:
Yazar said:
Greg66 said:
I could not give a fk what Ofcom says. A party with two MPs, and limited prospects of improving on that number in May, is not a "major party" no matter how much one squeezes one's eyes shut and wishes hard.
I want to hear - and I want others to hear - what the leaders of the parties who have genuine prospects of forming the next Government have to say for themselves.
Farage is not in that group. By a country mile.
So rather than accepting a decision made by examining the same criterias that are set for all parties, you think you know best.k what Ofcom says. A party with two MPs, and limited prospects of improving on that number in May, is not a "major party" no matter how much one squeezes one's eyes shut and wishes hard. I want to hear - and I want others to hear - what the leaders of the parties who have genuine prospects of forming the next Government have to say for themselves.
Farage is not in that group. By a country mile.
Instead of throwing your toys out of the pram, why don't you go and read the actual reasoning on the Ofcom site and then say exactly what you see wrong with them?
The rules were not changed after the rise of UKIP.
Can't understand the hatred for Cameron on PH. The election is a 2 horse race, only 1 of 2 people will be PM.
Here's news for you kippers:
Farage will NOT be PM.
If enough people vote UKIP to enable a Labour majority then we will be in the EU for another 5 years. And immigration will increase.
Or perhaps an even worse scenario - a Labour/SNP coalition. Not only will that be fiercely pro-European and pro immigration, but they will actively seek to take even more money from UKIP-leaning constitiencies to handover to Scotland.
But it's ok, because you will have registered your protest and vented your anger at foreigners being here.
I bet you still end up blaming Cameron.
Here's news for you kippers:
Farage will NOT be PM.
If enough people vote UKIP to enable a Labour majority then we will be in the EU for another 5 years. And immigration will increase.
Or perhaps an even worse scenario - a Labour/SNP coalition. Not only will that be fiercely pro-European and pro immigration, but they will actively seek to take even more money from UKIP-leaning constitiencies to handover to Scotland.
But it's ok, because you will have registered your protest and vented your anger at foreigners being here.
I bet you still end up blaming Cameron.
oyster said:
Can't understand the hatred for Cameron on PH. The election is a 2 horse race, only 1 of 2 people will be PM.
Some people would hate Mother Teresa if she was the leader of the Tories.I can't get my head around why David Cameron wants to avoid a debate with Miliband.
I can't see how he could come off worse.
Johnnytheboy said:
Some people would hate Mother Teresa if she was the leader of the Tories.
I can't get my head around why David Cameron wants to avoid a debate with Miliband.
I can't see how he could come off worse.
Did you miss Donald Macintyre's documentary on Mother Teresa? I can't get my head around why David Cameron wants to avoid a debate with Miliband.
I can't see how he could come off worse.
Anyhow back to Dave and some of his finest moments during his tenure..
1) Cameron reveals in parliament that he is actually in full support of Britain surrendering sovereignty to the EU despite positioning himself as a Eurosceptic in order to secure his position as Toryparty leader.
2) Fails to deliver an in/out referendum in this parliament despite repeatedly stating he would do so prior to the general election. Actually whips his MPs to block independent efforts to legislate for a referendum in this parliament.
3) Cuts spending on essential domestic services and benefits , increases overseas aid and EU contributions to levels that negate these cuts.
4) Latest figures indicated around 500 000 immigrants entered the UK in 2013, he promised to reduce this number to tens of thousands each year.
Allows uncontrolled EU immigration including Romanian and Bulgarian Roma criminals. A convicted Latvian murderer being the chief suspect in the murder of a little English girl being amongst the most recent highlights.
5) Continues to allow thousands of dangerous criminals and terrorists to reside in the UK thanks to our subservience to the ECHR
6) Increases national debt to in excess of £1.4 trillion, up from £0.8 trillion. Oversees
fall in income tax revenue despite having an open door immigration policy.
7) Reneges on the £1 million inheritance tax threshold rise that was promised.
8) Fails to prosecute any party in relation to numerous banking scandals, Libor, PPI etc
9) Introduces gay marriage despite stating he would not do so prior to the election.
10) Lobbying scandal,
access to Cameron for £250 000 in order to put policy suggestions direct to PM.
11) The continuation of the green energy scam, which incidentally his father in law is a beneficiary to the tune of £350 000 per year.
12) Allows geriatric Vince Cable to sell Royal Mail off at a level that was billions below true market value.
13) HS2 debacle.
14) Shows his total indifference to justice regarding the Maria Miller expenses scandal.
15) Failure to investigate the MP child rapsit scandal promptly?
16) Destroys £6 billion fleet of brand new Nimrod aircraft in order to save £1.9billion of running costs over ten years rendering the UK vulnerable to a host of maritime
threats.
17) Sells our entire harrier fleet to the Americans for £100 million after they have just
undergone a £600 million upgrade, eliminating our at sea fast jet capability.
18) Thousands of British troops given warning of redundancy whist still fighting in Afghanistan.
19) Military strength is cut to its lowest level since 1853 .
20) Launches a military offensive against Libya, a country that poses no threat to the UK. This action strengthens
the position of fundamentalist Islamists.
21) Attempts to launch a military offensive against Assad's Syrian forces before weapons inspectors have confirmed the use of chemical weapons or identified the party responsible for their use. This action would have strengthened the position of
fundamentalist Islamists.
The list goes on.
gregf40 said:
Do you think they have a chance of getting into power? Yes or No?
If no - would you rather Conservatives or Labour get into power?
Genuinely interested to hear your answer - no reason or explanation - just an answer.
As Ive said previously on PH. I'm not a diehard 'kipper' as such, more a proponent for moving firmly away from a 2 party system which is an unhealthy status quo, and also the EU federalist vision so ticks the boxes. Don't like Cameron neither.If no - would you rather Conservatives or Labour get into power?
Genuinely interested to hear your answer - no reason or explanation - just an answer.
Do UKIP they have a chance of getting into power? sure. Is it likely at this time, no, can any other 3rd party compete by being able to appeal to voters across Britain? No as other are either regional or too niche such as the Greens.
Farage as an MP should be a winner too.
Labour or Tories- don't really care to be honest. The former will be keeping spending more sensible than they normally do, so less of an alarmist decision this time around. Though Miliband as British PM will be... erm interesting
.That list proves why no leader should do a live debate. It's all too easy to pick many items and blame the current government for them regardless of the truth.
The opposition can't be blamed for anything because they generally don't do anything, they just give hypothetical policies based on hindsight.
The opposition can't be blamed for anything because they generally don't do anything, they just give hypothetical policies based on hindsight.
gregf40 said:
jogon said:
I couldn't care less he is weak, spineless, deceitful and has shown at times a level of immaturity not really fit for a head of state.
...and yet the country is in a far better state than it was when they came into power. You'd almost think he knows what he's doing...jogon said:
gregf40 said:
jogon said:
I couldn't care less he is weak, spineless, deceitful and has shown at times a level of immaturity not really fit for a head of state.
...and yet the country is in a far better state than it was when they came into power. You'd almost think he knows what he's doing...Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff