Is Cameron a chicken?
Poll: Is Cameron a chicken?
Total Members Polled: 448
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CMD is finished. Only the most deluded blue would argue otherwise.
Even if the tories manage to stay in power he will be gone.
He is a
to be fair 
Even if the tories manage to stay in power he will be gone.
He is a
to be fair - Edited to say that if Boris was in his place then the yellow, and red would be running away just like CMD is. The purple would still do it though i am sure. Boris would steamroller everyone.
Edited by killingjoker on Thursday 5th March 22:20
anonymous said:
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I suspect Cameron does not realise how many voters he lost due to this one. We were the same, over 100k deposit in cash everything looked rosy, then Dave started meddling and London went crazy pretty much overnight. So we paid 25% more, for no reason than the Tories faking the recovery due to lack of any actual ideas.
Osbourne had the cheek the other week to say in a speech that the UK will overtake Germany... one is a country propped up by consumer debt, the citizens in the other don't even use credit cards!!
killingjoker said:
CMD is finished. Only the most deluded blue would argue otherwise.
Even if the tories manage to stay in power he will be gone.
He is a to be fair
The problem is that we must suffer 5 more years of labour before Boris can get to grips with running the country! Even if the tories manage to stay in power he will be gone.
He is a
to be fair - Edited to say that if Boris was in his place then the yellow, and red would be running away just like CMD is. The purple would still do it though i am sure. Boris would steamroller everyone.
RichB said:
killingjoker said:
CMD is finished. Only the most deluded blue would argue otherwise.
Even if the tories manage to stay in power he will be gone.
He is a to be fair
The problem is that we must suffer 5 more years of labour before Boris can get to grips with running the country! Even if the tories manage to stay in power he will be gone.
He is a
to be fair - Edited to say that if Boris was in his place then the yellow, and red would be running away just like CMD is. The purple would still do it though i am sure. Boris would steamroller everyone.
Grant Shapps on Newsnight right now getting taken apart over this.
I repeat CMD is toast. If i were the tv companies i would still run them and leave an empty chair where CMD should have had the balls to be.
Elroy Blue said:
WestyCarl said:
But despite the cuts the country is still spending £100 billion per year more than it's earning, the cuts have reduced this form £150 billion in 2009
The interest alone on our national debt £50 billion / yr
So do you believe we should have continued spending at the previous rate and watch the debt / interest payments increase?
Did you actually read anything I typed. Our emergency services have been cut beyond anything that is sustainable. The amount cut from the Police is £1 billion pounds so far. The impact of this is having a massive, massive effect. At the same time £1 billion was spent in eight weeks to meet the new Overseas corruption budget. The interest alone on our national debt £50 billion / yr
So do you believe we should have continued spending at the previous rate and watch the debt / interest payments increase?
Perhaps they should prioritise the money that is available, rather than lying with their constant 'the frontline is not affected' bulls
t.During the 2000's the country was living far beyond it's mean's, we are now paying for that. I fear the current situation is the new reality for most people.
Yazar said:
anonymous said:
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I suspect Cameron does not realise how many voters he lost due to this one. We were the same, over 100k deposit in cash everything looked rosy, then Dave started meddling and London went crazy pretty much overnight. So we paid 25% more, for no reason than the Tories faking the recovery due to lack of any actual ideas.
Osbourne had the cheek the other week to say in a speech that the UK will overtake Germany... one is a country propped up by consumer debt, the citizens in the other don't even use credit cards!!
As I mentioned yesterday we have effectively priced out a generation of ever been able to afford their own home. Wages may well rise and we will probably earn more than our parents ever did but we will not be able to live nearly as nicer lives or afford such luxuries such as private school in the future. It is the erosion of the traditional middle class.
jogon said:
A supposed recovery built on quantitate easing and manipulation of the housing market is what we have witnessed over the last 5 years. Wages have been stagnant while house prices have increased by 30-40% in some parts of the country during the same period.
As I mentioned yesterday we have effectively priced out a generation of ever been able to afford their own home. Wages may well rise and we will probably earn more than our parents ever did but we will not be able to live nearly as nicer lives or afford such luxuries such as private school in the future. It is the erosion of the traditional middle class.
But QE on the UK has stopped a while ago. (and Europe are just about to start it) I think the housing price issue is more to do with supply and demand, not enough houses being built is the biggest price driver.As I mentioned yesterday we have effectively priced out a generation of ever been able to afford their own home. Wages may well rise and we will probably earn more than our parents ever did but we will not be able to live nearly as nicer lives or afford such luxuries such as private school in the future. It is the erosion of the traditional middle class.
WestyCarl said:
But QE on the UK has stopped a while ago. (and Europe are just about to start it) I think the housing price issue is more to do with supply and demand, not enough houses being built is the biggest price driver.
What exactly was 'Help to Buy' then? - Osborne’s grand plan aka market-distorting scheme, to burden the taxpayer with another £12billion to underwrite mortgages that otherwise people would not be able to afford. Recently extended to 2020. 
WestyCarl said:
But QE on the UK has stopped a while ago. (and Europe are just about to start it) I think the housing price issue is more to do with supply and demand, not enough houses being built is the biggest price driver.
of course it is, always has been and likely always will be.the point here though is this, the population of the country is rising so fast, no way can we build our way out of this problem.
even if we could, imagine what would happen if we did and suddenly supply exceeded demand? we have seen what happens when the market goes into free-fall before.
I hate to say it, but with net migration at 300,000PA this problem is not going to go away.
I don't see what the fuss is about, we have never had head to head debates in the UK and at the last election they had the 3 big parties. Now all of those parties have got a lot smaller and some small a lot bigger and so they all deserve their airtime. To have a Cameron v Milliband debate would be showing a favoritism that goes against what is the current mood of the nation.
NoNeed said:
I don't see what the fuss is about, we have never had head to head debates in the UK and at the last election they had the 3 big parties. Now all of those parties have got a lot smaller and some small a lot bigger and so they all deserve their airtime. To have a Cameron v Milliband debate would be showing a favoritism that goes against what is the current mood of the nation.
maybe you would do well to look back at the history of what was proposed?CMD has been playing them all along, he simply does not want to do the debates as he has everything to lose and nothing to gain.
the timing of him suddenly demanding the greens were included was the day after Ofcom said UKIP were a major party - coincidence?
Scuffers said:
CMD has been playing them all along, he simply does not want to do the debates as he has everything to lose and nothing to gain.
Really? when did this happen? all I have heard him say is thta he is looking forward to the debates.Scuffers said:
the timing of him suddenly demanding the greens were included was the day after Ofcom said UKIP were a major party - coincidence?
The greens have a following that is as big as some of the other parties mentioned.NoNeed said:
I don't see what the fuss is about, we have never had head to head debates in the UK and at the last election they had the 3 big parties. Now all of those parties have got a lot smaller and some small a lot bigger and so they all deserve their airtime. To have a Cameron v Milliband debate would be showing a favoritism that goes against what is the current mood of the nation.
What I imagine most of us want to see is 4 way debate between Dave, Ed, Nick and Nige, the antiKippers will no doubt kick up a fuss but the fact is they won the euro's last year and they are fielding candidates, I believe, in pretty much every constituency across Great Britain in May.While the Greens seek an alliance with the SNP and Plaid Cymru. Would it be fair have an alliance between parties in these Leader debates? It just shows how pointless it is in having these minor parties included.
Cameron has made a complete farce of the whole matter the pusillanimous oik.
NoNeed said:
Scuffers said:
CMD has been playing them all along, he simply does not want to do the debates as he has everything to lose and nothing to gain.
Really? when did this happen? all I have heard him say is thta he is looking forward to the debates.Scuffers said:
the timing of him suddenly demanding the greens were included was the day after Ofcom said UKIP were a major party - coincidence?
The greens have a following that is as big as some of the other parties mentioned.Anyone who thinks Labour need to worry about the Greens probably isn't fit to run the country.
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