Is Cameron a chicken?

[anonymous-user]

FiF said:

Reasonably balanced article on why Dave and Tories have been spoiling the organisation of a debate.


Chances of a TV election debate? Choose between zilch and nada

http://gu.com/p/44n2m

Good. Crap and simplistic television should not determine who makes up a Government.

[dandarez]

Greg66 said:

FiF said:

Reasonably balanced article on why Dave and Tories have been spoiling the organisation of a debate.


Chances of a TV election debate? Choose between zilch and nada

http://gu.com/p/44n2m

Good. Crap and simplistic television should not determine who makes up a Government.

It doesn't. Where you put your X does.

[dandarez]

Just under 4 months to go from CMD to KFC.

[MarshPhantom]

KFC?

[FiF]

I think he's suggesting come election results day CMD will be some sort of fried chicken. Will he be boneless though? Spineless certainly.

[carinaman]

Chicken frit ter.

[pilchardthecat]

He's just trying to put UKIP back in the "small fry" box along with the Greens, despite the electoral commission's conclusion that based on their recent electoral success, they are now a "major party"

[jogon]

Agree with that and I'm sure we will see yet another u-turn from yellow Dave.

[Baryonyx]

Don said:

Call me Dave is a smart guy. They've everything to lose and nothing to gain by participating in set-up, bks events run by the Biased Broadcasting Corporation.

If you want to see him in action you can. BBC Parliament. Prime Minister's Question Time.

PMQ is a load of bks and CMD has never done very well at it because between tbr sound bites and carefully prepared insults he hasn't achieved much. He won't appear in a live debate because he knows that his inevitable loss of face there will further harm his election chances and damage the legitimacy of the current government.

[MarshPhantom]

FiF said:

I think he's suggesting come election results day CMD will be some sort of fried chicken. Will he be boneless though? Spineless certainly.

Unlucky Fried Kitten.

[anonymous-user]

Greg66 said:

FiF said:

Reasonably balanced article on why Dave and Tories have been spoiling the organisation of a debate.


Chances of a TV election debate? Choose between zilch and nada

http://gu.com/p/44n2m

Good. Crap and simplistic television should not determine who makes up a Government.

Yup, best to let those with the biggest donations and campaign money have all the advantages.

Cameron said these debates "were good for democracy" until they went against him.

[anonymous-user]

Previous said:

Why can't the other parties simply hold their own debate, and leave an empty chair for the Tories?

Yes do this, televise it as a leaders debate and make it clear that Cameron refused to show up.

We need more engagement in politics in the UK. The TV debates are a great way of involving more people.

[Tyre Tread]

el stovey said:

Yes do this, televise it as a leaders debate and make it clear that Cameron refused to show up.

We need more engagement in politics in the UK. The TV debates are a great way of involving more people.

Politicians are regularly involved in mass debates. Indeed I think it is widely accepted that they are mostly mass debaters although I think the terminology used may be slightly different.

[oyster]

el stovey said:

Previous said:

Why can't the other parties simply hold their own debate, and leave an empty chair for the Tories?

Yes do this, televise it as a leaders debate and make it clear that Cameron refused to show up.

We need more engagement in politics in the UK. The TV debates are a great way of involving more people.

There's the traditional political debating arenas like the Commons, election broadcasts, party conferences etc, and there's new stuff like social media. TV isn't needed as well.

If UKIP and the Greens want more airtime then they need to build a political platform from which to launch themselves. The Lib Dems took 3 to 4 General Elections to get to their 2010 strength (ok they've now surrendered that and more). Having 1 or 2 MPs is not much of a platform.

[pilchardthecat]

oyster said:

There's the traditional political debating arenas like the Commons, election broadcasts, party conferences etc, and there's new stuff like social media. TV isn't needed as well.

If UKIP and the Greens want more airtime then they need to build a political platform from which to launch themselves. The Lib Dems took 3 to 4 General Elections to get to their 2010 strength (ok they've now surrendered that and more). Having 1 or 2 MPs is not much of a platform.

The UKIP "major party" thing is based primarily on the last EU and local authority elections, in the EU elections they got a greater share of the vote than the tories or labour. They got 17% in the local elections, which is substantially more than the yellow party did.

The electoral commission doesnt just look at the house of commons.

[anonymous-user]

pilchardthecat said:

The UKIP "major party" thing is based primarily on the last EU and local authority elections, in the EU elections they got a greater share of the vote than the tories or labour. They got 17% in the local elections, which is substantially more than the yellow party did.

The electoral commission doesnt just look at the house of commons.

But this isn't an EU election, nor is it a local authority election.

• Maybe* they will replicate their performances in the GE, and maybe they won't; people's reasons for voting a certain way in an EU or local election may or may not lead them to vote the same way in a GE.

[powerstroke]

Baryonyx said:

Don said:

Call me Dave is a smart guy. They've everything to lose and nothing to gain by participating in set-up, bks events run by the Biased Broadcasting Corporation.

If you want to see him in action you can. BBC Parliament. Prime Minister's Question Time.

PMQ is a load of bks and CMD has never done very well at it because between tbr sound bites and carefully prepared insults he hasn't achieved much. He won't appear in a live debate because he knows that his inevitable loss of face there will further harm his election chances and damage the legitimacy of the current government.

Its the old keep your mouth shut people might think you're pillock open it and prove it !! He hasn't anything to say apart from banging on about how the economy is safe in their hands ,he hasn't got anything else to inspire or give hope to the electorate just dull and depressing sound bites!!

[MarshPhantom]

oyster said:

el stovey said:

Previous said:

Why can't the other parties simply hold their own debate, and leave an empty chair for the Tories?

Yes do this, televise it as a leaders debate and make it clear that Cameron refused to show up.

We need more engagement in politics in the UK. The TV debates are a great way of involving more people.

There's the traditional political debating arenas like the Commons, election broadcasts, party conferences etc, and there's new stuff like social media. TV isn't needed as well.

If UKIP and the Greens want more airtime then they need to build a political platform from which to launch themselves. The Lib Dems took 3 to 4 General Elections to get to their 2010 strength (ok they've now surrendered that and more). Having 1 or 2 MPs is not much of a platform.

All well and good but if the other parties want it to happen who is Cameron to say no.

[pilchardthecat]

Greg66 said:

pilchardthecat said:

The UKIP "major party" thing is based primarily on the last EU and local authority elections, in the EU elections they got a greater share of the vote than the tories or labour. They got 17% in the local elections, which is substantially more than the yellow party did.

The electoral commission doesnt just look at the house of commons.

But this isn't an EU election, nor is it a local authority election.

• Maybe* they will replicate their performances in the GE, and maybe they won't; people's reasons for voting a certain way in an EU or local election may or may not lead them to vote the same way in a GE.

You're missing the point. The electoral commission isnt in the business of predicting elections, they are just categorising parties based on their recent electoral performance. Any national election counts.

[carinaman]

Fried Chicken:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_1IMZmJe-U